So you're saying that "woman" and "female" refer to that same thing?
Didn't some very woke people get a billboard taken down in East Van that said that very thing?
Girl or Woman?
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Didn't some very woke people get a billboard taken down in East Van that said that very thing?
Woman is a human female
Female is any species of female
Trans women are women
The end
You're contradicting yourself: trans women are not female... they should be accepted/included/protected as women in all social settings, yes! Yet that is an ideological point-of-view, even if I'm sure we can both agree on it.
But that's not the same as being female, which is a biological term... and, to be clear, the actual word that you used up-thread.
Just clarifying, since this is the crux of the debate creating a schism within certain feminist circles.
Not looking to have a "thing"... it's entirely possible to accept & include trans women yet acknowledge biological differences.
PS: Respectfully, adding "the end" implies your POV is right and nobody can disagree, yet discussion & debate are how ideas get elaborated and conflicts get resolved.
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Preference is not the same as definition though... I supposed you think it should also be call-woman.
biological sex is WAY more fluid than you think it is. There are not just “males” and “females”.
that fact aside, I’m sure we can agree that “woman” refers to a human and “female” doesn’t necessarily. This, calling a woman a “female” is dehumanising which was my original point.
Whatever happened to “Broads”, I always pictured babes (there’s another one) dressed to the nines with a cigarette and a drink ready to party!🤠
I was told once that “a girl has yet to menstrate, a lady is married to a knight - everyone else is a woman.” I’ve used that as my rule-of-thumb when choosing the appropriate pronoun.
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Girl often implies a group. One of the girls. The girls at the office. As does lady but in mixed company. Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies of the evening. Woman, even in plural stands independent. "Men & women", stand apart, why else "man & wife". "Girls & boys" do not and clearly become children. Female in documents and forms. English rich variation and nuance, the language of science and technology.
I haven't been with an SW that I could comfortably call a girl....all have been women. Female has become a cringey title used by incels and mouth breathers. Very enlightening subject though !
