Wtf is a "simp"?

[g eazy]

What is the point of coming to a perb consensus if there's something like a generic consensus like Wikipedia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simp

It pretty much covered most if not all arguments in this thread. I'm not sure what the point was if we are discussing definitions and not viewpoints.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

I agree but you have to admit, the responses here from the community can be pretty damn entertaining.

(love that pretentious douche handle)

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

I'm not sure what the point was if we are discussing definitions and not viewpoints.

Based on every time this topic comes up, the viewpoint from various providers here is that "simps" are perfect gentlemen, who are kind, courteous, and generous; and so-called "real men" need to back off them because you're all misogynistic abusers in comparison.

But the rest of the [internet] world has seen that word used to describe men who are so weak-willed and pathetic they'd sign over the deed of their own house just to stand within the personal space of an ungrateful female who will never reciprocate. "Men" who allow themselves to be scammed.

So what's the viewpoint?....hustlers gonna hustle....

So the vernacular here on PERB is that providers want kind, courteous, generous gentlemen (as we all should be, as most of us are, so it should go without saying)....but a better client is one where there is no work or pressure is required, and that is where 'simps' come in handy....low effort, big gains.

 

[g eazy]

Based on every time this topic comes up, the viewpoint from various providers here is that "simps" are perfect gentlemen, who are kind, courteous, and generous; and so-called "real men" need to back off them because you're all misogynistic abusers in comparison.

Maybe I can't read, but I didn't see a single post in this thread from providers inferring as such.

 

[Mikaa32]

I am one of the women who doesn't like the word and who doesn't want to associate with guys who use the word (I like spending my time with positive high vibe people who don't throw insults at people they care about or people on the internet). I've never actually seen the word used in the context's explained above which makes sense, no one wants to see their friends getting played. But why not talk to them and not make fun of them/put them down? Seems toxic. The way I see it used is usually just in response to comments like "Maybe you don't need to call her names", "I think a 5 is a little harsh", "I actually had a good experience with her".. so not really the same as what you guys say the real meaning is.

I guess we can all agree that you should never call anyone names if they're acting as a decent human being toward someone "man or woman' alike, by treating them well and saying nice things to them!

simp is just like any other word similar to "fool" and "jerk", it's kinda dominating the vernacular as of late... and believe it or not, I've never called anyone a simp, be it in real-life interactions or on the internet.

I think you have misdirected aversion. you should dislike the people that uses the word out of context rather than the word itself! I mean words only have power if you give them power!

 

[Andrew69913]

I find it interesting that if a woman is manipulated, controlled, and dominated by her partner she is a victim, which is correct in my view. If a man is treated the same way by his partner, it is his fault and he is a simp?!!? Very interesting indeed.

 

[ExpCharlee]

I find it interesting that if a woman is manipulated, controlled, and dominated by her partner she is a victim, which is correct in my view. If a man is treated the same way by his partner, it is his fault and he is a simp?!!? Very interesting indeed.

toxic masculinity affects men, too. the idea that men can't be abused or women can't be abusive is part of patriarchal culture.

 

[Andrew69913]

toxic masculinity affects men, too. the idea that men can't be abused or women can't be abusive is part of patriarchal culture.

I dislike that term immensely....it's just seems to me like the easy answer. A big broad brush that paints all men as toxic. I believe in systemic racism, sexism, etc., but labelling either masculinity or femininity as toxic is just dead wrong.

 

[ExpCharlee]

I dislike that term immensely....it's just seems to me like the easy answer. A big broad brush that paints all men as toxic. I believe in systemic racism, sexism, etc., but labelling either masculinity or femininity as toxic is just dead wrong.

There is also nontoxic masculinity which is why I specify toxic masculinity instead of just saying “masculinity”.

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

I find it interesting that if a woman is manipulated, controlled, and dominated by her partner she is a victim, which is correct in my view. If a man is treated the same way by his partner, it is his fault and he is a simp?!!? Very interesting indeed.

But that's two separate issues.

The woman feels she has no choice but to do the bidding of a "toxic" man; it's often because there is some kind of leverage he has over her, some kind of emotional, or physical, or financial abuse. OR for some other reason outside that man, where she felt she had no means of escaping a dull or toxic atmosphere; options are too limited outside the relationship, she's "too old" to get her groove back, one too many kids in the mix.

But with a Simp, it is the exact opposite. The fact that he wants to be in a relationship so bad, he'll sign over everything he owns as well as his own soul to stand in the personal space of another female just to smell her hair, hoping one day she'll see his gentlemanly acts and reciprocate with her affections; instead she ignores them, as well as takes advantage of him. In short, a "Simp" WANTS to be in such a toxic relationship.

Maybe I can't read, but I didn't see a single post in this thread from providers inferring as such.

This topic keeps popping up now and then, so I'm going on the general consensus thus far.

 

[Andrew69913]

There is also nontoxic masculinity which is why I specify toxic masculinity instead of just saying “masculinity”.

Really?? I have NEVER heard you mention non-toxic masculinity before?? What is that exactly?? I believe all this "woke" stuff is only serving to further divide us by validating every mal-informed, mis-directed feeling a person may have which< i'm sorry to say, is complete nonsense. The highway to hell is paved with good intentions!!

 

[ExpCharlee]

Really?? I have NEVER heard you mention non-toxic masculinity before?? What is that exactly?? I believe all this "woke" stuff is only serving to further divide us by validating every mal-informed, mis-directed feeling a person may have which< i'm sorry to say, is complete nonsense. The highway to hell is paved with good intentions!!

...ok, so you’re saying toxic masculinity doesn’t exist? That most women aren’t assaulted by men? That men aren’t ridiculed for showing even the smallest amount of emotional maturity? That people like trump weren’t elected president after literally admitting to assaulting women? Kkkkkk

 

[Forum mod]

This is getting a little too testy. Closed.