Cases Surging

[Cock Throppled]

What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Here we are, a year on from the start of Covid restrictions, and we’re not only back to square one, we’re actually going backwards, and having more cases. Yeah, yeah the deaths aren’t mounting up, but hospital cases are, and younger people are more and more ending up in hospital.

Whether you believe Covid is just a flu, or don’t believe it will affect you or don’t even think it exists, isn’t the issue. The issue is governments are putting in restrictions and mandating certain things no matter what you personally think. And those restrictions, and ignoring them affect us all.

Ignoring rules, hosting or attending gatherings, travelling, not wearing masks, getting together with people to party, visiting friends, family or strangers, not quaranteening after travel and doing other things that you might “want” to do, still isn’t what you “should” do, and is why we aren't gaining on the virus, even with vaccines.

So, all those who think they’re standing up for their rights - YOU’RE the ones making us all have to put our lives on hold longer than we need to, and will probably end up having more restrictions imposed. Thanks, geniuses.

 

[Lo-ki]

 

[Frostmourne]

What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Here we are, a year on from the start of Covid restrictions, and we’re not only back to square one, we’re actually going backwards, and having more cases. Yeah, yeah the deaths aren’t mounting up, but hospital cases are, and younger people are ending up in hospital.

Whether you believe Covid is just a flu, or don’t believe it will affect you or don’t even think it exists, isn’t the issue. The issue is governments are putting in restrictions and mandating certain things no matter what you personally think. And those restrictions affect us all.

Ignoring rules, hosting or attending gatherings, travelling, not wearing masks, getting together with people to party, visiting strangers, not quaranteening after travel and doing other things that you might “want” to do, still isn’t what you “should” do, and is why we aren't gaining on the virus, even with vaccines.

So, all those who think they’re standing up for their rights - YOU’RE the ones making us all have to put our lives on hold longer than we need to, and will probably end up having more restrictions imposed. Thanks, geniuses.

Probably cuz all these whoring maggots here keep patronizing hookers. Im sure that doesnt help in decreasing the cases. 100% facts.

 

[Moan For Me]

What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Here we are, a year on from the start of Covid restrictions, and we’re not only back to square one, we’re actually going backwards, and having more cases. Yeah, yeah the deaths aren’t mounting up, but hospital cases are, and younger people are more and more ending up in hospital.

Whether you believe Covid is just a flu, or don’t believe it will affect you or don’t even think it exists, isn’t the issue. The issue is governments are putting in restrictions and mandating certain things no matter what you personally think. And those restrictions, and ignoring them affect us all.

Ignoring rules, hosting or attending gatherings, travelling, not wearing masks, getting together with people to party, visiting friends, family or strangers, not quaranteening after travel and doing other things that you might “want” to do, still isn’t what you “should” do, and is why we aren't gaining on the virus, even with vaccines.

So, all those who think they’re standing up for their rights - YOU’RE the ones making us all have to put our lives on hold longer than we need to, and will probably end up having more restrictions imposed. Thanks, geniuses.

where is your proof in all of this? just an assumption that young people are to blame with no evidence. here we are almost 16 months later and none of these restrictions work! if they worked cases and deaths would be plummeting but they are not. i see more younger people driving in their cars alone with a face mask on than any other age group. or do you think because you wear that diaper on your face at Costco and Walmart you’re the responsible and safe one while you’re with hundreds of other strangers. we lost more people to overdoses in 2020 than to covid. enough already.

my friends in Sweden just don’t understand the madness. no masks, no closures, no major changes and you’d think they’d all be dead. they have half the amount of deaths for nearly the same amount of cases with none of the restrictions. something isn’t adding up. mother nature will win in the end.

also hypocritical that Bonnie Henry clamps down on indoor dining and gyms again but in-door wine tasting is left alone. but of course, because she has vested interests in her winery! or when she tells everyone else to stay home and is then spotted inside the Helijet terminal in coal harbour not wearing a mask boarding a helicopter to Victoria to visit her friends and family during Easter.

so if you want to blame anyone, how about the ones who make these arbitrary decisions in the first place.

 

[Cock Throppled]

where is your proof in all of this? just an assumption that young people are to blame with no evidence. here we are almost 16 months later and none of these restrictions work! if they worked cases and deaths would be plummeting but they are not. i see more younger people driving in their cars alone with a face mask on than any other age group. or do you think because you wear that diaper on your face at Costco and Walmart you’re the responsible and safe one while you’re with hundreds of other strangers. we lost more people to overdoses in 2020 than to covid. enough already.

my friends in Sweden just don’t understand the madness. no masks, no closures, no major changes and you’d think they’d all be dead. they have half the amount of deaths for nearly the same amount of cases with none of the restrictions. something isn’t adding up. mother nature will win in the end.

also hypocritical that Bonnie Henry clamps down on indoor dining and gyms again but in-door wine tasting is left alone. but of course, because she has vested interests in her winery! or when she tells everyone else to stay home and is then spotted inside the Helijet terminal in coal harbour not wearing a mask boarding a helicopter to Victoria to visit her friends and family during Easter.

so if you want to blame anyone, how about the ones who make these arbitrary decisions in the first place.

Talk about missing the point. Doesn't matter what you believe - Health orders are in place. And ever hear about more transmissable variants? Maybe ask the Canucks organization about that.

Name one thing I "assumed".

Current numbers show the highest rates with Covid are in the 20-49 age group, as are the largest groups now hospital and ICU.

And why would anyone, young or old be driving in their cars ALONE wearing a face mask? What point is that even trying to make?

 

[luvsdaty]

Passed 3,000,000 deaths worldwide from covid now. Yet there are still people that believe it's a hoax. Signs pointing towards people are getting tired of restrictions, and Canada's procurement of the vaccines has lagged far behind most other countries. I truly feel sorry for Healthcare workers that have been dealing with this for over a year now,not to mention essential workers that have to deal with idiotic patrons when they're just trying to do a job.

 

[westwoody]

Not dying does NOT automatically mean full recovery. Many patients have permanent organ damage.

 

[Frostmourne]

No point arguing semantics or anything else. Fact is the matter that all you Johns paying hookers for sex is certainly not helping the cases going down, and will ONLY go up. That's real facts.

 

[lookinfersum]

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yea it atually does make sense.....the way a hairdresser interacts with a client - appx 20-30 min inside a 2m zone would be considered a close contact, even with face masks, whereas you interact with a bank teller for a brief period of time, with a divider most likely and a 2m distance maintained. And no, they can't both cant go together to costco unless they are from the same household...buy hey...trollers gonnna troll.

 

[lookinfersum]

Talk about missing the point. Doesn't matter what you believe - Health orders are in place. And ever hear about more transmissable variants? Maybe ask the Canucks organization about that.

Name one thing I "assumed".

Current numbers show the highest rates with Covid are in the 20-49 age group, as are the largest groups now hospital and ICU.

And why would anyone, young or old be driving in their cars ALONE wearing a face mask? What point is that even trying to make?

i think he just likes to rant and yell a lot....

 

[lookinfersum]

where is your proof in all of this? just an assumption that young people are to blame with no evidence. here we are almost 16 months later and none of these restrictions work! if they worked cases and deaths would be plummeting but they are not. i see more younger people driving in their cars alone with a face mask on than any other age group. or do you think because you wear that diaper on your face at Costco and Walmart you’re the responsible and safe one while you’re with hundreds of other strangers. we lost more people to overdoses in 2020 than to covid. enough already.

my friends in Sweden just don’t understand the madness. no masks, no closures, no major changes and you’d think they’d all be dead. they have half the amount of deaths for nearly the same amount of cases with none of the restrictions. something isn’t adding up. mother nature will win in the end.

also hypocritical that Bonnie Henry clamps down on indoor dining and gyms again but in-door wine tasting is left alone. but of course, because she has vested interests in her winery! or when she tells everyone else to stay home and is then spotted inside the Helijet terminal in coal harbour not wearing a mask boarding a helicopter to Victoria to visit her friends and family during Easter.

so if you want to blame anyone, how about the ones who make these arbitrary decisions in the first place.

no assumption - as someone on the phones all day doing contact tracing, the bulk of cases these days are from 20-30 year olds, not following guidelines. car trips to whistler, dinners with friends at their house...etc etc. very few cases over 50. The people that are not following the restrictions are causing the spread. But you can keep on believing what you want....you think Horgan would have made such a bold statement if he didnt have numbers? pfft...

 

[LLLurkJ2]

In retrpospect..would it not have been better and cheaper to shut everything non-essential down for two weeks, make everyone else stay home,gaurantee everyone a loan for one pay cheque with the banks, and shut down all travel?

Seems to me that in order to 'save the economy' and the protestant work ethic we' ve f'd it up pretty bad for the same reasons people say we need the current form of capitalism...human selfishness and greed.

 

[chico1]

What the fuck is wrong with some people?

Here we are, a year on from the start of Covid restrictions, and we’re not only back to square one, we’re actually going backwards, and having more cases. Yeah, yeah the deaths aren’t mounting up, but hospital cases are, and younger people are more and more ending up in hospital.

Whether you believe Covid is just a flu, or don’t believe it will affect you or don’t even think it exists, isn’t the issue. The issue is governments are putting in restrictions and mandating certain things no matter what you personally think. And those restrictions, and ignoring them affect us all.

Ignoring rules, hosting or attending gatherings, travelling, not wearing masks, getting together with people to party, visiting friends, family or strangers, not quaranteening after travel and doing other things that you might “want” to do, still isn’t what you “should” do, and is why we aren't gaining on the virus, even with vaccines.

So, all those who think they’re standing up for their rights - YOU’RE the ones making us all have to put our lives on hold longer than we need to, and will probably end up having more restrictions imposed. Thanks, geniuses.

Everyone should have been vaccinated by now. It is government's fault for not providing enough vaccines fast enough to stop this. Because they failed to provide vaccines, they are imposing restrictions that are clearly and sadly not working.
The only solution to this is to accelerate the vaccination and vaccinate everyone.

Most people are doing what is reasonable, but everyone is tired and sick of these "half measures".

I am not talking about, nor supporting people who are breaking the rules intentionally, "standing for their rights", antivaccers and conspiracy theorists. Those are just fools.

 

[Moan For Me]

no assumption - as someone on the phones all day doing contact tracing, the bulk of cases these days are from 20-30 year olds, not following guidelines. car trips to whistler, dinners with friends at their house...etc etc. very few cases over 50. The people that are not following the restrictions are causing the spread. But you can keep on believing what you want....you think Horgan would have made such a bold statement if he didnt have numbers? pfft...

they can list off all the things they’ve done, it doesn’t prove that is in fact where they picked it up. they may have picked it up while working, or shopping too. this assumption that
it is only being spread by careless young people is just that an assumption. the 20-49 age bracket are the ones working those front line jobs, retail, kitchens, restaurants, etc. not everyone has the luxury of being able to work from home pointing fingers.

it’s just evident that places that impose more restrictions do worse, almost as if it’s the restrictions that cause the harm more so than the virus itself. using the same logic, why isn’t everyone dead in Sweden yet? we just keep doing the same things month after month not getting anywhere and expecting a different result. that is the clinical definition of insanity. it’s time for a fresh approach, but sadly that time has come and gone. if we shut our borders off last year completely, contact traced and isolated the sick and suspected contacts just as a precaution we could have managed it. those days are long over you can contact trace all you want at over 900-1000 new cases every day we don’t have the manpower or resources to ensure compliance.

the only way this will get curbed anytime soon is by vaccination there is no alternative at this point. and Trudeau fucked that up too.

 

[wetnose]

Everyone should have been vaccinated by now. It is government's fault for not providing enough vaccines fast enough to stop this. Because they failed to provide vaccines, they are imposing restrictions that are clearly and sadly not working.
The only solution to this is to accelerate the vaccination and vaccinate everyone.

Blaming the federal government for the slow rollout in vaccines is like blaming Obama for the Vietnam War.

The government can't wish vaccines out of thin air. We don't have vaccine research/manufacturing capabilities (Mulroney dissolved them - yes, fuck you very much Mulroney) so we're at the mercy of other countries. Pfizer and Moderna are highly specialized vaccines requiring new substances and only a few countries can make them. No surprise, they're also the countries with the highest rate of vaccinations. (US and UK) Contracts obligate manufacturers to fulfill US orders first, so everybody has to wait in line. Canada is already ahead of many larger countries (>10M) in terms of vaccinations.

 

[appleomac]

it’s just evident that places that impose more restrictions do worse, almost as if it’s the restrictions that cause the harm more so than the virus itself. using the same logic, why isn’t everyone dead in Sweden yet?

What's your love affair with Sweden? You do realize that Sweden has a per capita Covid death rate that is almost 2x Canada's. If we were to have Sweden's per capita Covid death rate, Canada would have closer to 48k deaths as opposed to the roughly 23-24k deaths.

Here's a more illuminating stat. Ontario's population is about 14 million, Sweden's population is about 10 million. Ontario Covid deaths stand at 7.7k and Sweden stands at about 13.8k. But hey, if it's really that much better in Sweden - there's nothing stopping you from going there to ride this pandemic out

 

[westwoody]

they can't both cant go together to costco

Costco in Winnipeg limits entry to members only and has plexiglas shields at checkout.
Cashier scans your card through the plexiglas.
I did what I usually do (force of habit) and put my card on top of an item on the belt. The cashier would not touch it.
Not a perfect system but definitely not comparable to a hair salon.

 

[westwoody]

What's your love affair with Sweden?

The Swedish success is not so great.
In fact Sweden look to be the worst in Europe.

And I repeat: mortality alone is not a good metric. Many patients are in ICU for a longer time than patients with other illness. So they use more healthcare resources. And many “long covid” survivors have crippling harm from it.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Getting almost a constant 1000 cases a day. While It is annoying to have people ignore the rules, and see the numbers climb (Duh. Cause and effect, anyone?), I also have some sympathy for covidiots when they see flights from India and Brazil come in every day, filled with people who are Covid positive, so why bother following rules? I mean, is Trudeau completely brain dead, or so afraid of being called racist to simply STOP international flights, at least from countries with the highest numbers, and new mutations. It sholdn't even be a question, but in Canada, we're just patsies for international crooks and apparently the Covid-infected.

 

[Moan For Me]

Getting almost a constant 1000 cases a day. While It is annoying to have people ignore the rules, and see the numbers climb (Duh. Cause and effect, anyone?), I also have some sympathy for covidiots when they see flights from India and Brazil come in every day, filled with people who are Covid positive, so why bother following rules? I mean, is Trudeau completely brain dead, or so afraid of being called racist to simply STOP international flights, at least from countries with the highest numbers, and new mutations. It sholdn't even be a question, but in Canada, we're just patsies for international crooks and apparently the Covid-infected.

well there you go. you partially answered your own questions as to why things are as bad as they are. i’m just getting tired of the finger pointing at the younger generation for being the sole culprits in all of this. what’s the point of having guidelines if guidelines don’t work? how else did this P1 brazilian variant get here? clearly the 14 day quarantine is a farce. so why do we continue with it? all this coupled with slow and improper vaccine rollout is why we will lose yet another summer while china, the usa, england, sweden, israel, etc get to carry on and get back to business. it’s political theatre.

the sweden approach fascinates me because they went totally against the grain. they opted to leave things open and let herd immunity and nature do its job. little to no restrictions and they have almost one million cases. canada has over 1.1 million cases now in the same time frame and nearly twice as many dead, and unlike sweden, also with a higher suicide/overdose rates, major mental health issues, 200k small businesses gone forever and the list continues.and that’s with the growing amount of restrictions. maybe just maybe it’s plausible that it’s not people breaking guidelines as to why it isn’t working but that maybe the guidelines themselves do not work! yes last january/february we had a brief window to shut’er down and figure it out, we missed that opportunity and we will never have that back this virus is here and here to stay now. one person commented above that if we had swedens numbers we’d be at 48K dead : we do, the difference is in overdoses and suicides. are we really doing better, as a country, or is it just an illusion?

i wish some people would stop being so myopic by solely focusing on covid cases and deaths as if it’s the be all and end all to determining success or failure during a pandemic. the slow vaccine rollout will cost more lives, just remember that the next time you vote.