Cases Surging

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the sweden approach fascinates me because they went totally against the grain. they opted to leave things open and let herd immunity and nature do its job. little to no restrictions and they have almost one million cases. canada has over 1.1 million cases now in the same time frame and nearly twice as many dead, and unlike sweden, also with a higher suicide/overdose rates, major mental health issues, 200k small businesses gone forever and the list continues.and that’s with the growing amount of restrictions. maybe just maybe it’s plausible that it’s not people breaking guidelines as to why it isn’t working but that maybe the guidelines themselves do not work! yes last january/february we had a brief window to shut’er down and figure it out, we missed that opportunity and we will never have that back this virus is here and here to stay now. one person commented above that if we had swedens numbers we’d be at 48K dead : we do, the difference is in overdoses and suicides. are we really doing better, as a country, or is it just an illusion?

i wish some people would stop being so myopic by solely focusing on covid cases and deaths as if it’s the be all and end all to determining success or failure during a pandemic. the slow vaccine rollout will cost more lives, just remember that the next time you vote.

Wow! You really don't know how to compare things do you? Sweden's 1 million cases vs Canada's 1.1 million cases - explain to us all why this is literally an apples to oranges comparison? I'll give you a hint, Sweden has less than 1/3rd of Canada's population (10 million vs 36 million)!

And no; suicides have not increased in 2020 compared to 2019 - it's been widely reported that the expected increase in suicides that some were expecting due to the pandemic has in fact not materialized (this is true for Canada as well as other industrialized 1st world countries like Canada).

Overdoses, in particular OD's due to opioids, have been increasing for the last several years. When it comes to opioids in particular (albeit full 2020 year data is not yet available), up until September 2020, the crude per capita rate was trending at 16 per 100,000 in Canada. Assuming that crude rate remains level for the last quarter of 2020, that would be about 5900 opioid OD's in 2020 in all of Canada. So don't make up complete BS about there being another 23 or 24k deaths in Canada as a result of this pandemic due to suicides and OD's - that's utterly asinine! In fact, 23k OD's due to opioids is the number if you were to take into consideration all opioid OD's in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 3 quarters of 2020!

You are the only one being myopic by making things up, not understanding differences in populations and thereby trying to compare 1 million cases in Sweden vs 1.1 million cases in Canada. Let's call a spade a spade, you don't like lockdowns/restrictions and you are desperately grasping at straws trying to convince others that Sweden is somehow the shining light example that we should all be following when it comes to pandemic response. Bringing up suicides and OD's (even though you are completely out to lunch on the numbers) is you merely making a feeble attempt to try and justify your position by trying to show how "compassionate" you are for the fictitious 24k suicides/OD's in Canada in 2020! Give it a rest mate, the more you talk about this issue the less credible you become with all your lack of insight and made up stats!