Behaviour

[Cock Throppled]

There seems to be a percentage of people who think Covid is either just a flu, or doesn't even exist.

Those people are ignoring rules around masks and social distancing, and generally behaving like normal.

THOSE are the people who are driving the increases in Covid cases.

Even if you don't think it's anything for you to worry about, the restrictions will still affect you, so why not just hunker down for a few weeks and try to let the case numbers drop?

I hate to say it, but no matter how much people want to go back to normal, and need to have an income, it will just keep getting worse, and go on longer if people don't stop being dicks, and can't understand that.

I miss my SP's, I know they need to make a living, but the higher the case numbers get, the less likely I will visit. Once numbers become more reasonable I will participate. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to play, but needing the risk to be lower.

 

[overdone]

There seems to be a percentage of people who think Covid is either just a flu, or doesn't even exist.

Those people are ignoring rules around masks and social distancing, and generally behaving like normal.

THOSE are the people who are driving the increases in Covid cases.

Even if you don't think it's anything for you to worry about, the restrictions will still affect you, so why not just hunker down for a few weeks and try to let the case numbers drop?

I hate to say it, but no matter how much people want to go back to normal, and need to have an income, it will just keep getting worse, and go on longer if people don't stop being dicks, and can't understand that.

I miss my SP's, I know they need to make a living, but the higher the case numbers get, the less likely I will visit. Once numbers become more reasonable I will participate. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to play, but needing the risk to be lower.

remember when they said we needed mask compliance of around 80%

you really think that isn't happening in most places?

problem is, the nannies have pushed it so hard, people are no longer social distancing, they believe they're golden just cause they wore a mask

go to stores, watch how many aren't using the hand sanitizer when entering/exiting

one way aisles in stores, people stopped long ago, go up down aisle either way, stay 6 ft away, not for months

NOT THAT THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPREADING THE DISEASE, OR DID WE NOT SPEND THE FIRST 8 MONTHS WITHOUT MASKS IN GROCERY/STORES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LOL

IT'S MORONS HAVING GET TOGETHERS PARTIES EATING DRINKING IN LARGER GROUPS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME

WHERE MASKS AREN'T THE LAW

lockdowns don't work, they just delay the inevitable

they've had a lockdown in Que for well over a month, it's still not working

unless you are going to go commie and do what Australia did, for 3 months, waste of time


what's needed is quit fucking over the 99% who don't have or haven't had a confirmed case

and start putting the other 1/4 of 1% or so into isolation, put an app on their phone, make sure they stay isolated/home 24/7, phone them, show up at their door welfare check

you know like Taiwan did/does, where they never locked down, have 6 dead

no, that'd be work, require competent government

let's do what's the lazy way

tell everyone to go hide in their basement

despite that the "RISK" is no where near what people are shitting their depends over


AB, we have 13-15,000 active cases, out of 4.4 fucking million people

barely 1% have been confirmed in 9 months

risk, yeah, no, it's perception

8 months

need time to ramp up healthcare, testing, tracing, protecting the old folks

irrational emotion

not risk

sure it's real, deadly, if you're an 70+ unhealthy

otherwise, no

facts don't support that

but then facts don't matter anymore

 

[Sharj]

remember when they said we needed mask compliance of around 80%

you really think that isn't happening in most places?

problem is, the nannies have pushed it so hard, people are no longer social distancing, they believe they're golden just cause they wore a mask

go to stores, watch how many aren't using the hand sanitizer when entering/exiting

one way aisles in stores, people stopped long ago, go up down aisle either way, stay 6 ft away, not for months

NOT THAT THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPREADING THE DISEASE, OR DID WE NOT SPEND THE FIRST 8 MONTHS WITHOUT MASKS IN GROCERY/STORES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LOL

IT'S MORONS HAVING GET TOGETHERS PARTIES EATING DRINKING IN LARGER GROUPS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME

WHERE MASKS AREN'T THE LAW

lockdowns don't work, they just delay the inevitable

they've had a lockdown in Que for well over a month, it's still not working

unless you are going to go commie and do what Australia did, for 3 months, waste of time


what's needed is quit fucking over the 99% who don't have or haven't had a confirmed case

and start putting the other 1/4 of 1% or so into isolation, put an app on their phone, make sure they stay isolated/home 24/7, phone them, show up at their door welfare check

you know like Taiwan did/does, where they never locked down, have 6 dead

no, that'd be work, require competent government

let's do what's the lazy way

tell everyone to go hide in their basement

despite that the "RISK" is no where near what people are shitting their depends over


AB, we have 13-15,000 active cases, out of 4.4 fucking million people

barely 1% have been confirmed in 9 months

risk, yeah, no, it's perception

8 months

need time to ramp up healthcare, testing, tracing, protecting the old folks

irrational emotion

not risk

sure it's real, deadly, if you're an 70+ unhealthy

otherwise, no

facts don't support that

but then facts don't matter anymore

Well here in Winnipeg youngest died was 20 fact.
Several sp are in suppose to be in quarantine beacuse people have had multiple sp visit. Wife been infected that’s fact.
So family may get messed up a fact.

This is more serious than people think that a fact.

Health care workers and nurse and Drs all over the country working hard to save people that a fact.
Beacuse covid people with other health issues are get neglected surgery get canceled all over country.
What more?

 

[take8easy]

Why are they not closing schools?

 

[sparks99]

Why are they not closing schools?

Only works if the parents are home too. And harder with the younger kids who need direct supervision during the day.

 

[KOM]

We're still dealing with the flu after 100 years because less then half the population get the flu shot. It's going to be the same for Covid.

 

[Lo-ki]

I'll say it AGAIN....the masks that people are wearing are useless....90% of the people I see wearing a mask are showing gaps....specially around the nose.... I always do a seal check on my mask...it's 4 layers with the middle layer of copper materials. People wear those little blue mask which are useless after 4 hours of use. How about education people about how to insure your mask is being used properly......all they are concerned is about numbers, numbers and more numbers.

This where I get my masks from....they are expensive but they give me the proper protection.

Four-Layer Copper Face Mask
Our face mask has 4 layers of protection with copper-infused fabric on the outside first layer.

www.copperclothing.com

Cheers

 

[picante55]

There seems to be a percentage of people who think Covid is either just a flu, or doesn't even exist.

Those people are ignoring rules around masks and social distancing, and generally behaving like normal.

THOSE are the people who are driving the increases in Covid cases.

Even if you don't think it's anything for you to worry about, the restrictions will still affect you, so why not just hunker down for a few weeks and try to let the case numbers drop?

I hate to say it, but no matter how much people want to go back to normal, and need to have an income, it will just keep getting worse, and go on longer if people don't stop being dicks, and can't understand that.

I miss my SP's, I know they need to make a living, but the higher the case numbers get, the less likely I will visit. Once numbers become more reasonable I will participate. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to play, but needing the risk to be lower.

The ("covid idiot") percentage is small (I think) and I'll admit I am one of them. My question is, how am driving up the numbers?

I was in Europe (UK, France, Italy) back in Feb/Mar when this all started to hit. I don't wear a mask or use hand sanitizer, I wash my hands when I shower or for food prep or intimacy.

I have been tested with the results being negative.

So how am I driving up numbers?

 

[80watts]

The reality is that the health care system in Canada can't cope with high number of people getting infected. With only a a small % of them being admitted to Intensive Care. The more flogged down the ICU gets the more people will die due to lack of personnel to care for them. Remember back in March the hospitals weren't full, but the health care workers were working long hours. Now the 2nd wave is here, and these health care workers are at their limits. So if the number of infection increases so does the number of deaths will increase, due to lack of care for patients. (last spring it was number of ventilators)

All government orgs main goal is the prevention of casulties (or higher number of them).

The problem is basicly the under funding of the medical system.. which is why you have people with no family doctors, Nurses that work 50 hour work weeks, delayed surgeries (up to 3 years) etc. you name it, and the health care system fails Canadians miserly.... You can say covid caught them with their pants down.....

Only 1-2 % of the population has been exposed to covid (could be higher?? maybe 5%? ). If the hospitals workers are stretched, its gonna take alot to expose the other 95% of the Canadian population.... It will then use the other factor--- time.... It could take years to combat covid in the other 95% of the population. A vaccine would be the answear, there are 2 out there now (last weeks news), but are they good enough and what are the side effects. Studies take time....

Covid appeared and showed us the vulnerabilities of old folks homes, under funded health care system, people's financial dependability on money and everything money buys (living paycheck to paycheck).

Lately there has been no word on the tranmission of Covid (air or touch); and how the virus changes with time.

Yeah its a flu, but a particularly nasty one.

 

[Cock Throppled]

The ("covid idiot") percentage is small (I think) and I'll admit I am one of them. My question is, how am driving up the numbers?

I was in Europe (UK, France, Italy) back in Feb/Mar when this all started to hit. I don't wear a mask or use hand sanitizer, I wash my hands when I shower or for food prep or intimacy.

I have been tested with the results being negative.

So how am I driving up numbers?

The question you should be asking is, "How am I doing my best to protect anyone vulnerable, and not possibly negatively affecting someone's business, or livelihood, if my reckless behaviour results in an exposure?"

One exposure, or tracing back to you could not only threaten someone's health, but force an SP into seclusion, shut a business, throw people out of work prevent products being delivered or manufactured.

Is it really so important to you do behave so selfishly, to prove some obscure point about your rights, or childish need to ignore requests (or orders) for the good of your community?

 

[westwoody]

So how am I driving up numbers?

You are spreading the virus.
You are the problem.
Try thinking of others.

 

[GeeBeeP]

Why are they not closing schools?

I've posted this in another thread but I'll repeat it here in answer to your question.

School is essentially a giant day care system, without it parents wouldn't be able to hold down a job. That's why all the provinces are so desperate to keep schools open. Even if a parent is already working from home these days, looking after kids might be impossible.

I know a woman who is in a very technical and demanding job, working from home and keeping the family afloat financially. She is a brilliant person, smarter and more capable than I will ever be, but if her 2 kids can't go to school and she has them at home every day she will have a mental breakdown. She won't be able to work and juggle the kids and she'll have to go on stress leave at the very least.

Reading, writing, education yadda yadda yadda, that's all good. But if kids can't go to school the modern economy with working parents is fucked.

 

[take8easy]

I've posted this in another thread but I'll repeat it here in answer to your question.

School is essentially a giant day care system, without it parents wouldn't be able to hold down a job. That's why all the provinces are so desperate to keep schools open. Even if a parent is already working from home these days, looking after kids might be impossible.

I know a woman who is in a very technical and demanding job, working from home and keeping the family afloat financially. She is a brilliant person, smarter and more capable than I will ever be, but if her 2 kids can't go to school and she has them at home every day she will have a mental breakdown. She won't be able to work and juggle the kids and she'll have to go on stress leave at the very least.

Reading, writing, education yadda yadda yadda, that's all good. But if kids can't go to school the modern economy with working parents is fucked.

I totally get that. My concern is that a school is a perfect place for the virus to be spread. By not closing them, are we not giving virus chances to spread more, which in turn might 'fuck up', as you said, modern economy, health system and who knows what else.
Either way, let's just hope and prey it is over soon, which realistically could be another year.

 

[picante55]

You are spreading the virus.
You are the problem.
Try thinking of others.

You are spreading the virus. - How, I'm not infected.
You are the problem. - Why, I don't have the virus.
Try thinking of others. - That's the thing, you have no idea what I do in my personal life to aid others.

 

[magicjohnson]

remember when they said we needed mask compliance of around 80%

you really think that isn't happening in most places?

problem is, the nannies have pushed it so hard, people are no longer social distancing, they believe they're golden just cause they wore a mask

go to stores, watch how many aren't using the hand sanitizer when entering/exiting

one way aisles in stores, people stopped long ago, go up down aisle either way, stay 6 ft away, not for months

NOT THAT THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPREADING THE DISEASE, OR DID WE NOT SPEND THE FIRST 8 MONTHS WITHOUT MASKS IN GROCERY/STORES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LOL

IT'S MORONS HAVING GET TOGETHERS PARTIES EATING DRINKING IN LARGER GROUPS FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME

WHERE MASKS AREN'T THE LAW

lockdowns don't work, they just delay the inevitable

they've had a lockdown in Que for well over a month, it's still not working

unless you are going to go commie and do what Australia did, for 3 months, waste of time


what's needed is quit fucking over the 99% who don't have or haven't had a confirmed case

and start putting the other 1/4 of 1% or so into isolation, put an app on their phone, make sure they stay isolated/home 24/7, phone them, show up at their door welfare check

you know like Taiwan did/does, where they never locked down, have 6 dead

no, that'd be work, require competent government

let's do what's the lazy way

tell everyone to go hide in their basement

despite that the "RISK" is no where near what people are shitting their depends over


AB, we have 13-15,000 active cases, out of 4.4 fucking million people

barely 1% have been confirmed in 9 months

risk, yeah, no, it's perception

8 months

need time to ramp up healthcare, testing, tracing, protecting the old folks

irrational emotion

not risk

sure it's real, deadly, if you're an 70+ unhealthy

otherwise, no

facts don't support that

but then facts don't matter anymore

I keep saying the same things. We’re going about this whole thing the wrong way and the govts ineptitude just compounds the entire issue.

Taiwan nipped this thing in the bud and early - they literally showed the world what to do and how to do it. Aside from extreme measures in New Zealand and Australia, no other country has even made an attempt to follow their standards at all. Imagine if we had a proper govt and followed Taiwan this would have been over in a matter of weeks. Too late now, the trains left the station.
And we’re supposed to trust this same govt when it comes to getting (in my view) an unnecessary vaccine? And folks wonder why there’s misinformation, distrust, and lack of focus.

And now we have cases. And more cases. We tell everyone to social distance, stay away from people, wear a mask, lockdown in some places but it’s not having any real effect. We’re trying to fight a forest fire with a hose and not getting anywhere. We’re using PCR tests that weren’t even meant to be used as a diagnostic tool in the first place.

Then we’re yelling at one another because one or another protocol wasn’t met and then calling each other selfish. Why should the 99% who aren’t infected be punished? And continue to be punished? The people who are immunocompromised are the ones who should be most protected and isolated not the other way around. I think it’s selfish that the 1% feel they’re more important than the lives of the other 99% who need to get on with it and their own lives. There’s no common sense any more. What did you expect would happen when you put a bunch of younger people out of work, collecting welfare, sitting on their ass - you think they’d stay at home all day or not have parties?

Nope I think people will be at odds with each other for a long time and the govt is making sure this lasts as long as possible. There’s no transparency and nobody is coming out with the truth. There’s never any good news or solutions just endless reactionary restrictions and here we are.

 

[Cock Throppled]

You are spreading the virus. - How, I'm not infected.
You are the problem. - Why, I don't have the virus.
Try thinking of others. - That's the thing, you have no idea what I do in my personal life to aid others.

You only knew you didn't have the virus at the time you were tested. Unless you're tested every day, you don't know if you've acquired it.

Why do you think asymptomatic people are the ones spreading it at workplaces and gatherings?

You've already said you don't bother wearing masks, or washing your hands, so it's immaterial what you do "to aid others". Workers in care homes aid others, but they were the ones responsible for the most deaths.

Are you also the kind of person who argues with SP's that you don't need to wear a condom, "Because I'm clean.", based on an STI test you got six months ago?

 

[Miss Hunter]

Some people take this situation seriously. Others don’t give a shit. And many are somewhere in the middle... some of which is due to hypocrisy in the media and contradictory info being said by “experts”
All each of us really can do at this point is focus on what’s within our own locus of control.
Worried about your health? Take the steps to protect YOUR health in whatever way works best for YOU. Don’t leave the responsibility of something so precious and important up to anyone else.

 

[Miss Hunter]

And many people need to continue to work in what the status quo deems "non-essential business" to live. Rent, food, etc. that costs money. Everyone has bills to pay. People need to eat, they need to keep a roof over their head for themselves and their family. In a perfect world everyone could just isolate at home for a few weeks/months until this nightmare blows over but this world is FAR from perfect. And don't even get me started on how this pandemic has cratered numerous people's mental health...this situation is ugly, and as time goes on it keeps getting uglier.

And they say a vaccine is on its way.. a rushed at near the speed of light vaccine...umm... sounds great!! What could go possibly go wrong...?!

This has become a very messy situation with no perfect and easy fix

 

[80watts]

I think this Covid thing will go on for years, not sure why, but even with a vaccine, its still gonna be about 2 to 3 years, due to limiting factors of health care beds (in an ICU) and the rest of the population who haven't got the virus yet....
Elementary school kids ususally have younger parents, while high school kids have parents usually over 40. After 40 you tend to have more health related problems that Covid could affect..... But again kids are snot nosed bastards at the best of times....

 

[nukecola]

I keep saying the same things. We’re going about this whole thing the wrong way and the govts ineptitude just compounds the entire issue.

Taiwan nipped this thing in the bud and early - they literally showed the world what to do and how to do it. Aside from extreme measures in New Zealand and Australia, no other country has even made an attempt to follow their standards at all. Imagine if we had a proper govt and followed Taiwan this would have been over in a matter of weeks. Too late now, the trains left the station.
And we’re supposed to trust this same govt when it comes to getting (in my view) an unnecessary vaccine? And folks wonder why there’s misinformation, distrust, and lack of focus.

And now we have cases. And more cases. We tell everyone to social distance, stay away from people, wear a mask, lockdown in some places but it’s not having any real effect. We’re trying to fight a forest fire with a hose and not getting anywhere. We’re using PCR tests that weren’t even meant to be used as a diagnostic tool in the first place.

Then we’re yelling at one another because one or another protocol wasn’t met and then calling each other selfish. Why should the 99% who aren’t infected be punished? And continue to be punished? The people who are immunocompromised are the ones who should be most protected and isolated not the other way around. I think it’s selfish that the 1% feel they’re more important than the lives of the other 99% who need to get on with it and their own lives. There’s no common sense any more. What did you expect would happen when you put a bunch of younger people out of work, collecting welfare, sitting on their ass - you think they’d stay at home all day or not have parties?

Nope I think people will be at odds with each other for a long time and the govt is making sure this lasts as long as possible. There’s no transparency and nobody is coming out with the truth. There’s never any good news or solutions just endless reactionary restrictions and here we are.

1. Taiwan is an island. We’re bordered with the worse covid country in the world.
2. The Republic of China government (Taiwan) will always be the first in the world to process and understand problems from mainland China. They are the same ethnicity, speak the same language with mainland China. They have been rival to mainland China for decades, they have closely monitored China’s political and social changes. When PRC says the outbreak is under control, it is DEFINITELY a problem and ROC government knows it at heart. They took it extremely seriously. What did Trudeau and Teresa Tam say in this January? They said Canada’s outbreak chance is “very low”. Their IQs are very low.
3. Taiwanese people have good trust in their government. They have one of the best democracy. ROC’a government is one of the most unselfish and honest government in the world. Taiwanese people will follow their government directions because they trust the government is working for them. So who do we trust in Canada? Trudeau? Teresa Tam? LMAO.
4. Taiwanese people practice good hygiene and have NO PROBLEM of wearing masks. Before the pandemic if you went to any Taiwanese restaurants, bubble tea, fried chicken, here in BC, you had seen their staff wear masks to prevent contamination of food served to patrons. What did we do? We spent months to debate the use of masks here.
Therefore, Taiwan have many advantageous prerequisites that Canada don’t. Taiwan’s model can not work for Canadians.