You are right, i was thinking of the Jiya thread (i was checking her reviews at same time) where she has one in the room. My apologies. But i still think one in the room is sketchy AF.
Does SP’s have camera at their incalls?
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Yes but once again this isn’t in the room, this was the door. So you’d only be filmed upon walking in. ??♀Sounds like a good safety option for providers who aren’t able to get references or deposits.
and as I said earlier, I’d never visit any incall if I spot a camera at the door or in the room. Van chambers have already mentioned to name a few. Risk in this business is involved for both the parties and I’m not comfortable being recorded by the SP. I’ve no issues getting recorded in the elevator or at the entrance of building.
okay so if the SP’s camera was trained on the outside of the door instead of the inside you’d be fine with it?
The real question is ...how many clients book SPs and film discreetly... hmmm?!
Imagine not caring being filmed at ANY OTHER BUSINESS (waiting room at the doctor, hotel lobby, restaurants, etc) but caring about being filmed by an SP. the stigma is disgusting.
It's illegal to film a sexual encounter without consent. This goes both ways.
But cameras outside of the suite, chances are they have nothing to do with her. Cameras are everywhere these days. Take that shit up with Big Brother if you have an issue.
But cameras outside of the suite, chances are they have nothing to do with her. Cameras are everywhere these days. Take that shit up with Big Brother if you have an issue.
Just a fyi and coming clean anyone that has visitied my place or might plan on visiting I do have camera's on the exterior of my house. They are wired IP cameras that go to a digital recorder that does not have internet access and nothing goes to the cloud. Video records over saved every 15 days. No need for longer. Its stricly for safety if something happened and also to give the girls a heads up when their guest pulls in the driveway.
Their no cameras on/in the interior of my house.
A good reason to see an independent lady or agency that has been around for awhile and has good reviews and no red flags. I know if I or any of my girls had tried to do what you mentioned it would be all over perb. What the "handler" does reflects on the agency/girl so would also be posted.
I not sure about where you are referring to. You don't find paid advertisers on perb that are scammers, they would be banned and gone very quickly. Perhaps you are talking about all the beautiful young porn star or fashion model (which they probably are because the pics are stolen) on leolist as unverified ad. Pick one of those and you are rolling the dice, good luck.
Now I know this will bring up the discussion of verified ads on leolist. LL has got very strict as of lately for verified pictures. They must have the sign with LL on it, must be dated in the correct format and be no more than 24 hrs after the date on the ad. I had some pics denied verification because the were taken on the evening of the Nov. 10th and I uploaded then the morning of the 12th. Rejected for to old. They seem to be checking for editing and they also do a image search of their site to see if posted anywhere else. All this isn't fullproof but gives you a little bit more confidence in verified ads. Still best to crosscheck on perb.
XOXOXO Riza
I hope i have not offended you. Earlier in this post i agreed that door is fine and expected. But hidden in room is not acceptable.
Filming common area and starting the action in the common area on film, then going to bedroom is deceiving.
I went to one condo, (Only been to that SP really) and there are cameras on the building and hallways. But not in room. I expected that and its OK as it doesn't record anything we are trying to keep discreet. Myself, being new and all, would be uncomfortable being on camera IN the room.
PS, i hope you dont hold this view against me if i try and book with you.... lol
I think he is referring to the general area, the lower mainland. (Can include the interior too from what i read lastnight in the PSA forum)
I have been doing my reading, Lots of reviews on long established indy (Or claimed indy) girls on LL that have some scams here and there. One issue i have run into is ads from LL that are now deleted or expired. Cant see the pics or anything. Should post up 1-2 pics of the girl to compare later on after ad deleted.
Haha why do men always think I’m “offended” when I state my views?
You’re all good mister. We agree. Maybe someday after all this madness we can meet x
If you are in public you are recorded everywhere by security cameras and anyone can legally take and use your photo, with or without your consent, if you're inside someone else's residence the same applies, it is up to them if they have cameras, nanny cameras or security cameras, there is no law against it and they're not required to tell you. You should assume if you're not in your own home or the bathroom in a public place you are recorded. There are exceptions such as change rooms and public washrooms and likely the bedroom but in a private residence belonging to someone else that might only apply if you were recorded in a sex act and maybe not even then.Google and Apple record and track every move you make.
Cameras at the front entrance have become the norm. Can't be used for anything against you. You can claim that you were responding to a Facebook marketplace ad for various items, didn't like what you saw and left empty handed.
As for the actual cameras in the incall, you take a risk, and hope for the best. Ive walked into an incall where there were sketchier things happening than a possible hidden cam, and had to walk out. Most SPs don't allow recording so there's also that, as it violates some level of their privacy. The only SP I knew who liked recording that I had a session with was open about it. She offered me a mask and some temporary tattoos to put on make myself unrecognizable ?, she wanted to start an OF page at the time, but never went through with it.
As for the actual cameras in the incall, you take a risk, and hope for the best. Ive walked into an incall where there were sketchier things happening than a possible hidden cam, and had to walk out. Most SPs don't allow recording so there's also that, as it violates some level of their privacy. The only SP I knew who liked recording that I had a session with was open about it. She offered me a mask and some temporary tattoos to put on make myself unrecognizable ?, she wanted to start an OF page at the time, but never went through with it.
You seemed to pick apart my replies pretty good.. even though i agree with you....
I Am totally looking forward to the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all, any implication that filming guys is okay because guys try to secretly film their session is just flat out wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right.
The stigma sucks, but that's the reality of the situation. People's lives are intricate and everyone has varying levels of comfort about being filmed inside a suite. I'm going to discount the exterior cameras like condo entrances and at Riza's (i'm sure her girls are jerking it to me walking through the door) because they've become an accepted societal norm (aka take it up with big brother), but I would not like it if I was filmed walking in. I would like disclosure on that upfront so I can make the decision to show up or not.
I'm not saying that ladies can't use that to protect themselves, they have every right to, just as I should have every right to decline being filmed in a private place.
Agree to disagree? All's fine.
The stigma sucks, but that's the reality of the situation. People's lives are intricate and everyone has varying levels of comfort about being filmed inside a suite. I'm going to discount the exterior cameras like condo entrances and at Riza's (i'm sure her girls are jerking it to me walking through the door) because they've become an accepted societal norm (aka take it up with big brother), but I would not like it if I was filmed walking in. I would like disclosure on that upfront so I can make the decision to show up or not.
I'm not saying that ladies can't use that to protect themselves, they have every right to, just as I should have every right to decline being filmed in a private place.
Agree to disagree? All's fine.
Since I am a person that works with CCTV and is familiar with some of the laws, I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.
There is no expectation of privacy when you are in a public space or can be viewed from a public space (keep your blinds closed people). When you enter a private/retail space there must be notification that you are being recorded. This includes signage at the door or a monitor showing you on camera. Verbal notice is not best practice as it can turn into a he said/she said situation. Without proper notice the footage is not admissible in court, so if that is your only evidence of wrong doing you would likely be shit out of luck in court.
Property management is not supposed to provide any footage from CCTV, although they obviously do. This could result in a problem under the Freedom of Information/Protection of Privacy Act (FIPPA). Look it up for details if you are truly interested.
As far as blackmail goes, ya takes yer chances here folks. Best scenario is to stick with reputable providers, identified here on PERB, and keep your eyes open for any thing strange. No guarantees, but there are none in life either. lol
There is no expectation of privacy when you are in a public space or can be viewed from a public space (keep your blinds closed people). When you enter a private/retail space there must be notification that you are being recorded. This includes signage at the door or a monitor showing you on camera. Verbal notice is not best practice as it can turn into a he said/she said situation. Without proper notice the footage is not admissible in court, so if that is your only evidence of wrong doing you would likely be shit out of luck in court.
Property management is not supposed to provide any footage from CCTV, although they obviously do. This could result in a problem under the Freedom of Information/Protection of Privacy Act (FIPPA). Look it up for details if you are truly interested.
As far as blackmail goes, ya takes yer chances here folks. Best scenario is to stick with reputable providers, identified here on PERB, and keep your eyes open for any thing strange. No guarantees, but there are none in life either. lol
I think if there was at least one actual instance of an SP recording a client, then using it for blackmail there would be actual cause for concern. Unless I've missed something somewhere along the line, this entire thread is about a situation that could occur, but never has.
When assessing the level of risk in a situation, it's a cross between possibility and probability. The possibility of this exists, but the probability is extremely low. Of course we all have that paranoia of being outed in public for visiting an SP, but that could come in a number of different ways. Being recorded in the act, seems one of the least likely.
When assessing the level of risk in a situation, it's a cross between possibility and probability. The possibility of this exists, but the probability is extremely low. Of course we all have that paranoia of being outed in public for visiting an SP, but that could come in a number of different ways. Being recorded in the act, seems one of the least likely.
If any SP has footage of me in the act I'd be very upset.....
That she hadn't sent me a copy
That she hadn't sent me a copy
