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How many visits with an SP before you move on?

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VinVan

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Just curious about the longevity of SP/client relationships. I've read on PERB that these can go on for years between Perbites and their providers, but for me the number is between 3-6 for a provider I'm emotionally, physically, and intellectually (EPI) attracted to at some level. The question, obviously, does not apply to one-and-dones where there is no connection. For those providers who are at the highest level of EPI connection I've probably seen a dozen times, and those SPs could probably be counted on one hand.

I find that this is the usual process:

1st meeting
Getting a sense of the person and if there is and EPI connection. In the first session I decide if I want to repeat and that is usually dependent upon whether I think there is something more to discover about the provider (usually a hint of some kink or other sexual peccadillo that piques my curiosity).

2nd meeting
Exploring more about the sexual desires of the SP and finding where the mutual interests are. If the SP suggests an activity that I've never experienced before then I'll def book another meeting. Some examples of some of the taboos that a provider has asked of me that I did not know I was interested in: spanking, whipping with a riding crop, bondage, choking, face slapping. Some of these may seem extreme, but the interesting thing is that if an SP trusts you they will reveal their kinks. At the time with the SP, I wasn't aware I was interested in any of this, but at the request of the SP I indulged and found it exciting.

3rd meeting
More exploration into our mutual sexual desires. If the SP is hot and doesn't excite me at an EPI connection level then we won't get to a 3rd meeting. Case in point, Vyxen, who has recently been reviewed quite extensively (both pro and con). I found her to fulfill many of the kinks I'm interested in, and she is beautiful, but there just wasn't the emotional an intellectual connection. As a consequence, I saw her only once. In my mind, there was nothing left to explore. Same for Jess Lis Lee - just didn't have the connection.

Meeting 4-6
More exploration, but at some point during these meetings, I'll just have the intuitive sense that it's time to move on and we've discovered what we need to from each other. It's a palpable sense that "yeah, that session was fine," but there was the edge missing from it that was present in the previous sessions. Kind of like when you move in with a girlfriend. It's a different stage of the relationship that is less lust and more about trust and longevity - except with an SP there isn't that so why carry on. And there are sooooo many other providers to explore.

Meeting 6+
Rare that this happens, but when it does it is because the EPI connection is at such a high level that it can sustain itself.

I'm curious about the experience of others on this forum.
 
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happycanuck99

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Fascinating. Thanks for sharing! I haven't been in this "hobby" (or "lifestyle" or whatever) long enough / often enough to have anything valuable to add to this conversation, but I certainly find it interesting. I keep thinking if I find the right lady, I'll become a regular and that will be the end of my search, but it's quite possible I'm deluded. Time / experience will tell. :)
 

oldshark

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If I like the SP after the first couple of times, I tend to go back over a long period. I will try new girls but I do have preferred SPs. I have found that they do move on - i.e. retire, go do a different job.
 

steverino

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I have always been a variety seeker. Even if I have a great experience, I can't resist the urge to find the next new thing. The resuslt is I am generally one and done.
 

wintersurfer

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If we get along well and their schedule is limited I tend to book all of it (Tarai Sahari/Anabelle Sinz), if they work full time then its 2-3x a wk for a few hrs (Nitya/Cindy not so much recently but in the past)
 

MRGREEN

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Seen about 45 or so providers over the last 20-25 years years. Repeated very rarely, no real reason. Over the years saw 1 or 2 on a regular basis (once a month) til they retired.
Don't participate much these days for that reason and am always on the look out for a potential regular

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I haven't been meeting sp's for very long now, probably 2 years. I would say I prefer sticking with a few select women over long term as long as you can keep things in check. I find that people who are good in this line of work are VERY good at creating emotional connection. It's kind of in the job description lol. By keeping in check, I'm not talking about extremes here either, such stalking, excessive messaging, etc. I'm just talking about regular feelings and connections, they ARE going to happen the more you learn about a person. I'm not exactly sure what I'm getting at here, but it has to have something to do with understanding yourself and why you are doing something. Truly, I think some of the guys on here need to be introduced to the amazing fleshlight lol. I just don't understand the point in being proud about how hard you were able to pound that 100 lb women you met last night. Anyway, interesting thread for sure!
 

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I have a strict policy in regards to seeing a regular and that is 69 visits or 7 years, whatever comes first. By then the warranty has expired and the shine is beginning to wear off.

In all honesty why would anyone want to establish themselves as a regular? I am not in the market of being in a relationship and it really is a relationship that you are establishing when you become a regular. Those who are seeking an attachment to someone in a pay as you go relationship are heading down a path that can blur the lines between fantasy and reality.

While I will repeat with a provider quite a few times I make sure there are months not days between visits. Seeing someone 5 times over 2 years does not make me a regular.

I am not challenging the guys who become regular clients of certain service providers but seriously don't understand why you are doing that? Are you hoping to become their boyfriend or is there something more that you are looking for?

I must be missing out on something and would like to know what that is.

Commitment equals Attachment equals Love equals Commitment equals Messed Up Head
 

islander1-1

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Me... It varies from.... In the door and gone in 15 min (total turn off) to .... I gotta see her again, even just to visit and sit n chat with no sex involved. Personally out of all my encounters, I have only one of each of these extremes and everything in between.
 
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gugga_madi

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Some good points PierreCoeur and islander 1-1.

For SPs the regulars are important for some very obvious reasons like they don't have to screen each time, they would get longer dates with a regular compared to a new client, the only downfall being a regular may sometimes cross the line. Most of the SPs would admit they are not looking for an emotional attachment.

For the clients it can be so different depending on what your personal philosophy about life is. Long term relationship with a SP has some benefits but only if you remain in predefined boundaries and don't let the emotions get better of you in the long run. If you are looking to build an intimate connection with one person only then probably you should try regular dating.

For my personal philosophy, I do this as there is no commitment and I can sleep with girls of different backgrounds and ethnicity. Mostly my first experience with a SP is the best one, after that it always goes downhill. Doesn't matter how beautiful the lady, how well reviewed she is or how fun the conversations seem initially.
 
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Mclovinit604

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I saw a regular SP for about 12x and even took her out for a few social activities (movie, dinner). I found that as we became more comfortable, the sex became less intense and felt like her effort decreased. I was disappointed because I thought it would get better and more memorable. So this makes me question seeing any SP more than a handful of times. Just my own experience and not meant to generalize to anyone else. Respect different strokes for different folks!
 

gugga_madi

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Finding a new proper SP to move on tough. I have been bait and switched a couple times last year. Leolist is trash nowadays. Some providers don't even reply sometimes.
This is a very valid point from a client perspective. Reliable SPs are rare, on top of it many well reviewed SPs may not be an ideal fit for your preferences. Time availability for good SPs is also a big limiting factor.
 
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