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80watts

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CB that's a fucked up comment. Most guys who don't spend time with asians think that an asian women can look younger than their actual age. I think that is realitively true. Could it be that women from Asian descent have practiced better health care (by what they eat etc, lifestyle) compared to NAmerica lifestyle and so age slower? Who knows?
That is just a observed fact, not racism.
As for Zippy if you are booking because the pictures are fake; that really doesn't make any sense. If pictures are fake, most people avoid those ads.
 

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I do book with Asian providers knowing the pictures are usually fake. Never been disappointed though.
 

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lots of white providers have fake ads too. saying that because many providers of a certain race have fake ads you avoid all providers of that race is definitely racist. there are lots of amazingly reviewed, clearly legitimate asian providers.
i can see the logic in your response above, however your initial post “smells like racism to me” felt very trolly. Then again you call yourself a socialist troll, so par for the course I guess.
 
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CB that's a fucked up comment. Most guys who don't spend time with asians think that an asian women can look younger than their actual age. I think that is realitively true. Could it be that women from Asian descent have practiced better health care (by what they eat etc, lifestyle) compared to NAmerica lifestyle and so age slower? Who knows?
That is just a observed fact, not racism.
As for Zippy if you are booking because the pictures are fake; that really doesn't make any sense. If pictures are fake, most people avoid those ads.
I'm not talking about the age part. I'm talking about the "never booking asian providers" part.
 

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I wouldn't say I never book Asian sps, I just try to avoid when I can. I booked a lot of them before and some were great but most were fake.
 

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Yes, short answer.

It is handy to be able to narrow down searches by ethnic group. The "Asian" category does appear to be the biggest category by total count and daily frequency, so for that reason I definitely find it handy to narrow down searches by turning on and off ethnic groups on the LeoList site.

If you count ads, Asian providers are the most prolific advertisers.

For example, if you select "Black" in the massage category, there are just 2 for all of Metro Vancouver for all of September.
Select "Asian", and I see there are 330 ads for all of that month to date, 95 "Asian" ads JUST for Friday.
In contrast, there are 29 massage ads for the "White" category for Friday.

At one in-call a lady I saw (a spanish lady, who didn't match her photos, incidently) who shared with an asian provider (who represents the stereotypical "auntie" mentioned in some reviews that put up fake photos) who asked me to sort out her computer connection. This auntie proudly showed me her ads, which were a dozen separate ads of other hot women she claimed were her. Multiple simultaneous ads increase the number of calls. She said she would get an average of 10 guys a day, mostly BJ's. Guys usually don't leave when faced with someone who doesn't look like their picture.

As I've seen about a dozen different Asian providers over the years from LL ads, I can personally attest that 80% are fake, the other 20% are them when younger, less fat, photoshopped, clever angles, hiding features or faces.
By the same token, other races from LL the 20% of altered unrepresentative ads is the same, but maybe 50% are accurate.

The ads that have websites, twitter accounts, onlyfans, instagram are more likely to have representative pictures.

If you search for 'twitter' with "Asian" massage providers, there are exactly zero results.
For "White" you will see 15 hits.

In the Escort category, you will get exactly one provider that uses twitter, AsianFever, and there are over 300 ads just by this single agency. (My feature request to LL would be to include a "hide" and "block" category to block out noise posts.)
Over 90 show up for all Escort ads in the "White" Category.
1 White advertiser uses "Perb" in the Escort section, zero for all other races combined.

So, as a general tip to LL advertisers, if they include important keywords in their ads such as :
  • Perb Reviews
  • Twitter
  • Instagram
  • Their websites
  • Onlyfans links and such,
they will definitely stand out more from the crowd.
 

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lots of white providers have fake ads too. saying that because many providers of a certain race have fake ads you avoid all providers of that race is definitely racist. there are lots of amazingly reviewed, clearly legitimate asian providers.
So are you saying all those SP's who won't see black guys or brown guys or in the Asian Sp's cases sometimes they won't see white guys...are they all racist too? :rolleyes:
 

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So are you saying all those SP's who won't see black guys or brown guys or in the Asian Sp's cases sometimes they won't see white guys...are they all racist too? :rolleyes:
SPs that don't see black or brown guys for any reason other than the SP themselves being part of those communities and not wanting to run into people they know are racist, yep. you can't be racist towards white people; reverse racism isn't real :)
 

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I like women of all ethnicities and I have had a few really good appointments with very pretty Asian women.

I have never had the misfortune of seeing a bait and switch because I would only see well reviewed Asian providers.
 

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SPs that don't see black or brown guys for any reason other than the SP themselves being part of those communities and not wanting to run into people they know are racist, yep. you can't be racist towards white people; reverse racism isn't real :)
So wait, if she is not part of that community she is racist? delete a buncha shit about how stupid you are
 

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So wait, if she is not part of that community she is racist? delete a buncha shit about how stupid you are
The only reason (that I know of) not to see clients of a certain ethnicity that isn’t racist is when you are that ethnicity and you do not want to run into people you know.
delete... what? This comment makes no sense to me lol
 

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Yeahhhh so if me and my black and Chinese friend go to Japan and we’re turned away at a brothel or whatever, they were only racist to my black friend?
 

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Yeahhhh so if me and my black and Chinese friend go to Japan and we’re turned away at a brothel or whatever, they were only racist to my black friend?
Racism is about power dynamics. In countries that have been colonized by white people (most of them) there is inherent white privilege that creates a power vacuum where other ”races” have to conform to rules and norms instituted by white people. The racism kicks in when these rules are used to subjugate or “other". Basically if you are judging an entire race based on values forced upon them then that’s racist. There are no values being forced upon white people because all the rules are catered to benefit them, so when someone discriminated against a white person, it is discrimination, but not racism.

Japan is a grey area as they were colonized by the USA, but at the same time they are also a huge colonizer themselves and have retained most (not all) of their autonomy. If the whole Japanese system is catered to ensuring that the Japanese person who barred you from the brothel can affect your life negatively with impunity, then sure they were being racist. Then again if you can gather a bunch of white people to take retribution against that Japanese person and probably get away with it, then you were only discriminated against.
 

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Yeahhhh so if me and my black and Chinese friend go to Japan and we’re turned away at a brothel or whatever, they were only racist to my black friend?
Did you even read my comment? I said if you’re afraid of running into someone in your community. EG the black community in Vancouver is quite small so some black providers choose not to see black clients ??‍♀
 

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Racism is about power dynamics. In countries that have been colonized by white people (most of them) there is inherent white privilege that creates a power vacuum where other ”races” have to conform to rules and norms instituted by white people. The racism kicks in when these rules are used to subjugate or “other". Basically if you are judging an entire race based on values forced upon them then that’s racist. There are no values being forced upon white people because all the rules are catered to benefit them, so when someone discriminated against a white person, it is discrimination, but not racism.

Japan is a grey area as they were colonized by the USA, but at the same time they are also a huge colonizer themselves and have retained most (not all) of their autonomy. If the whole Japanese system is catered to ensuring that the Japanese person who barred you from the brothel can affect your life negatively with impunity, then sure they were being racist. Then again if you can gather a bunch of white people to take retribution against that Japanese person and probably get away with it, then you were only discriminated against.
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