What Percentage Of Your Clientele Are Unattractive?

[Futurebillionaire]

Exactly, our boy is forgetting women generally speaking, are mostly emotionally driven and that has considerable influence who they find attractive, physical attributes aside. This is further complicated by a girl's mood, wants, needs, or situation at any given moment. He argues that good looking alpha males who are in a bar where it's extremely difficult to make an emotional connection for a lady, constantly get picked up by ladies and get laid for free. It's a narrow view because I know many women who are repulsed by the very scenario of the bar scene for that very reason. "Look at the pretty creep, trying to notch his pistol" Heard it so many times. I've seen so many ladies drawn to an attractive guy and be repulsed by him within 5 minutes of beginning the conversation. His assertion that he has a superior intellect for his young age and letting everyone know it is off putting and definitely won't get him laid. He needs to find a lady who finds intellect attractive but our boy needs to learn some humbleness and civility which will go a long way to decrease his creep vibe.

The specific complex interplay of emotions, physical attributes and socioeconomic calculus in the desiring of men are not yet currently understood in-depth. Neuroscience is working on it. It seems from my understanding largely to be dependent upon each woman's individual circumstances. Shorter women for example seem to want much taller men. Mostly an attempt to get rid of their short genes. That of course can be agreed upon.

But that doesn't change the fact that thresholds exist. A short 5'0 woman would rather be alone instead of be with a 5'0 man. It's just not likely. Unless of course that 5'0 man can compensate in other ways

Mating with the intent to compensate for ones deficiencies seems to be a sound strategy for women and one that I have seen time and time again.

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Based on your statement above, you have (for some reason not known to me) limited your definition of cost to a financial one only. Why is that?

As several people prior to me have indicated, it costs to have sex. And it’s not limited to $$. Personal time, energy, etc. There are several metrics to gage the “cost”, money only being one. And the cost is shared by both people. I am certain several ladies viewing this thread can think of situations where it has cost them significantly when spending time with clients, even though they were getting paid $$ as part of the arrangement.

From your perb handle name and the original theme of This thread, money appears to be a significant focus of your personal identity and seems to be defining the term “cost” to you. Perhaps its worth spending some time re-evaluating your definition?

Money makes the world go round and money is what motivates an SP. Subjective values placed by you regarding the energy and time invested to get laid in non professional settings doesn't seem like a good argument.

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Individuals who base their perception of what is attractive about another individual solely on facial symmetry limit their options in establishing any true relationships in their lives. They likely don't often connect with other people except superficially and for short periods of time.

Typically they are narcicists and have limited success in life. They will never become Billionaires and rarely make it past mid-management careers because they only care about themselves.

Until they recognize that there is more to being attractive than having a pretty face they are destined to fail at work and love.

I find all types of woman attractive. Physically they can be short chubby tall skinny black white asian muscular soft alternative tattooed big boobed small boobed so long as they are more than their exteriors and the persons inside are kind caring intelligent generous funny and genuine.

Being attractive is not a singular concept that can be presented on some idiot's ratings chart.

So Mr. Wannabe Billionaire, enjoy being a true loser for the rest of your pathetic lonely life. Me, I will enjoy the company of thousands of beautiful people.

I can agree with your first point. Superficiality has its consequences

You are right, there is more to attraction than looks alone but I have seen time and time again women both in my own life and online who made the choice to prioritize their biological imperative and the sustaining or ascending of that hierarchy as opposed to choosing a man based on their character but general lack of looks

What you find attractive is different because you are a male. Your investment in the creation of offspring is 10 minutes in the sac as opposed to 10 years. Of course your biology allows those preferences you've stated to be true, do u need to state the obvious?

I can tell u right now that I'm way above that middle management. Way above "middle" pal

 

[Futurebillionaire]

This is not my experience, at all. I describe myself as the epitome of all things not tall dark and handsome. I am very short (5'4"), pale, and the best I have been called is, kind of cute. I am far from rich and not hung like a porn star. Yet , I have never had a problem getting dates (or wives, damn it) and dates, almost always, lead to sex. In my humble opinion, confidence, class and style, count higher than looks and height.

Dating standards differ greatly by generation don't know how old you are. You've stated multiple wives. 50+? Ohh c'mon man .. Everyone could get laid back then .. Options were simply fewer for women back then. Now Chad is only a swipe away

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Thanks to this thread my pussy is now dry as a desert ? ?

The OP clearly has no fucking clue about female desire and arousal.

I'm not going to waste my time writing out a more detailed response...

You know what would dry your pussy even more? Imagining a 4 or even a 3.5 on top of you.

C'mon sweetie. A simple thought exercise. Lay on your bed. Imagine a 4 or hell even a 3. Is there something he can say that will want you to do the dirty with him? Is there something he can say to override millions of years of high level evolution informing you of the many features he lacks which you don't. Facial harmony which you may have that he does not.

Nothing. There is nothing he can say. You cannot override your biological imperative with niceties and hope. Those niceties would have your resultant offspring be dead in the old days

 

[Futurebillionaire]

What a train wreck, IBTL...

Having said that, no self-respecting SP of any sort of calibre is going to continue seeing a client they find unattractive; unless they have no other options (and, that is unlikely). The sort of interaction that occurs between an SP/client is one that requires some level of attraction, otherwise the fantasy is moot. If there is a mutual attraction, then suddenly things become much more interesting.

But, instead we have some incel wannabe who's planned on becoming the next insecure megalomaniac/sociopathic "billionaire", who's going to "influence" society and societal norms... Pathetic comes to mind.

Shifting society and societal norms to that of acceptance of those lesser in the hierarchy is a bad thing? Joking around with your fellow humans to let them know that it being over is not their fault. This is a bad thing? Why?

Is it a babies fault for breaking their bottle?

 

[BigCgaijin]

The specific complex interplay of emotions, physical attributes and socioeconomic calculus in the desiring of men are not yet currently understood in-depth. Neuroscience is working on it. It seems from my understanding largely to be dependent upon each woman's individual circumstances.

Glad you finally acknowledge that it's complex, little understood, and dependent upon individual circumstance.

Shorter women for example seem to want much taller men. Mostly an attempt to get rid of their short genes. That of course can be agreed upon.

Don't agree with it at all, it's not that simplistic, it goes back further in evolution. Historically, anthropologists have a broad consensus that protection, provision, and health are the primary criteria for women choosing a mate. Just as youth which represents health was the primary male motivation. Genetics does play a part in the survival of us as a species. For example children look like us which makes us very less likely to allow them to starve to death when food is short. Men don't mind short women as mates so I don't believe that women even consider a taller mate because of her gene pool. She considers a taller mate because large represents strong = better protection and safety.

But that doesn't change the fact that thresholds exist. A short 5'0 woman would rather be alone instead of being with a 5'0 man. It's just not likely. Unless of course that 5'0 man can compensate in other ways

If the 5'0 man is a good protector, provider, and healthy he's in. Again the choosing of a mate has a complex criteria and the threshold of looks is not her first priority. I hate to break it to you, and at the risk of coming off as crude, unattractive men do get laid as do seemingly unattractive women and a visit to any Walmart illustrates my case. (Please this is my own definition of unattractive and I do know that others may find them attractive, therefore I don't condescend) So I implore you, do not hate women because of their individual choices when it comes to their attraction tastes and respect those choices and move on. I don't like broccoli, others love it. I don't hate broccoli lovers. Handsome men get turned down my friend...a lot.

Mating with the intent to compensate for ones deficiencies seems to be a sound strategy for women and one that I have seen time and time again.

Mating with the intent of protection(safety), provision (food), health, (healthy and strong babies who will survive) is the basic sound and primarily ingrained strategy for women for thousands of years. There is broad consensus among Anthropologists regarding this. Compensating for their own physical deficiencies is incredibly far down the list if it exists at all. Protect, provide, be healthy, don't be an asshole and you'll find your partner.

 

[BigCgaijin]

You know what would dry your pussy even more? Imagining a 4 or even a 3.5 on top of you.

A 3.5 she's with who's kind, funny, stimulates her intellect, and doesn't come across as an immature asshole WILL NOT dry her pussy. A 10 who is a fucking asshole will dry her pussy. See not that easy.

C'mon sweetie. A simple thought exercise. Lay on your bed. Imagine a 4 or hell even a 3. Is there something he can say that will want you to do the dirty with him? Is there something he can say to override millions of years of high level evolution informing you of the many features he lacks which you don't. Facial harmony which you may have that he does not.

Wrong, see above comment

Nothing. There is nothing he can say. You cannot override your biological imperative with niceties and hope. Those niceties would have your resultant offspring be dead in the old days

Wrong, see above comment.

 

[BigCgaijin]

Your reverse psychology is working I seem to be desiring u more. Unless of course you are referring not to my Philosophy but to my young age and thus my implied lack of sexual prowess. If so I will need to spend time with others first to improve so I can lessen your boredom ... aww

You're turning her off.....why don't you think about why that is........

 

[willowtree]

Actually most of my clients are decently attractive. However, the deciding factor of whether or not I genuinely enjoy my clients company is 110% about respect.

From my experience it's usually those of the incel variety that try to manipulate, disrespect restrictions, argue the rate, make unrealistic demands, rob me at the end, the list goes on...
What it all boils down to is their entitlement to sex. I'm sorry to inform you.. but just because you THINK you're a "nice guy", it doesn't mean that women owe you sex for it.
We don't get participation awards in real life babe. No one is going to give you a gold star for showing up and just doing what you're supposed to do as a decent human being.

I've had stereotypically attractive men ruin my night & I've had stereotypically less attractive men totally rock my world, and we created lasting memories. Physical attractiveness had zero to do with it.

Perhaps if you actually viewed woman as more then just the hole they are attached too... you wouldn't spend your time discussing a pathetic ideology that does nothing but bring negative minded assholes together on the internet to cry about how women wont fuck someone who's going to disrespect them.

 

[theimp]

Dating standards differ greatly by generation don't know how old you are. You've stated multiple wives. 50+? Ohh c'mon man .. Everyone could get laid back then .. Options were simply fewer for women back then. Now Chad is only a swipe away

Lol, lots of foolish assumptions. Yes I am getting close to my doddering old age. Most of my dating has been in the last fifteen years, as I was married, to various wives, in my younger years. I find it considerably, easier to meet women now (pre covid).

 

[blakealridge]

Your reverse psychology is working I seem to be desiring u more. Unless of course you are referring not to my Philosophy but to my young age and thus my implied lack of sexual prowess. If so I will need to spend time with others first to improve so I can lessen your boredom ... aww

no, it's more about the way you talk. huge yawn.

 

[Miss Hunter]

" According to Deussen, Nietzsche "never decided to remain unmarried all his life. For him women had to sacrifice themselves to the care and benefit of men."[57] Nietzsche scholar Joachim Köhler [de] has attempted to explain Nietzsche's life history and philosophy by claiming that he was homosexual. Köhler argues that Nietzsche's syphilis, which is "... usually considered to be the product of his encounter with a prostitute in a brothel in Cologne or Leipzig, is equally likely. Some maintain that Nietzsche contracted it in a male brothel in Genoa."[129] The acquisition of the infection from a homosexual brothel was confirmed by Sigmund Freud, who cited Otto Binswanger as his source.[130] Köhler also suggests Nietzsche may have had a romantic relationship, as well as a friendship, with Paul Rée.[131] There is the claim that Nietzsche's homosexuality was widely known in the Vienna Psychoanalytic Society, with Nietzsche's friend Paul Deussen claiming that "he was a man who had never touched a woman."[132][133]
Fill yer boots.

That's fine, I'll just go back as a man and bring antibiotics.

 

[Mikehma]

Okay. So he is troll but not 'actually' a troll.

So here's this kid, most likely in his early/mid 20s. Relatively book smart guy throughout high school, probably not terrible looking but definitely not with the popular crowd. He's smart. His teachers and friends have told him that anyway, but for the life of him he can't figure out women. Finally after being thoroughly frustrated with trying to understand women, he takes a few shots in the dark. He gets some dates, but ultimately they turn him down (never mind, he definitely hasn't dated if he can't even understand that no single male bangs for free... and the first thing he refers to is paying for a wedding.. lol). He likes using big words to make himself sound smart because he isn't actually smart enough to say more with less, leading to a lot of poor word choices. Definitely a bachelor's or above level of writing but not likely to be an Arts major due to a singular obsession of an ideology. Likely STEM major where it's always easy to lean on absolutes drawn from perceived rationality, a field where you can thrive without having to accept what you don't understand.

The only reason guys subscribe to shit like red pill and black pill is because they use it to explain what they went through - and they are obsessed with having an explanation for all things to this point where they take motivated reasoning to an extreme. They come here, not as research, but because they are so insecure about not getting girls that they try to shame those that pay for companionship. There is nothing here that someone couldn't find just googling.

Nobody is denying evolutionary truth, but there is more to life than what you read in books, and the depths of the internet once you've started a positive feedback mechanism on this shit. My advice is to put down your Jordan Peterson bullshit and go and experience things, otherwise your views are simply just that - glorified opinions with no basis in reality.

I think future billionaire is just a fuck up.

 

[Mikehma]

The dude's very first post was to create a poll, presumably prove that ugly guys predominantly pay for hot girls.
The results so far after 1000 or thread reads (it would be nice to have a breakdown if the thread readers are male or female):

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The reference to Significantly Unnatractive has no guidelines on a scale of 1-10. It might be a rating of 4 or less since 5 must be average.

My question would be, what would one do with this astounding revelation?

The only thing the thread proves is the immense popularity of encouraging an attention-deficit troll and verbally squashing it.

It's a very poorly designed poll as it doesn't even offer an option for clients find attractive in whatever way they define attractive. This may impede many from participating at all.

 

[Miss Hunter]

The specific complex interplay of emotions, physical attributes and socioeconomic calculus in the desiring of men are not yet currently understood in-depth. Neuroscience is working on it. It seems from my understanding largely to be dependent upon each woman's individual circumstances. Shorter women for example seem to want much taller men. Mostly an attempt to get rid of their short genes. That of course can be agreed upon.

But that doesn't change the fact that thresholds exist. A short 5'0 woman would rather be alone instead of be with a 5'0 man. It's just not likely. Unless of course that 5'0 man can compensate in other ways

Mating with the intent to compensate for ones deficiencies seems to be a sound strategy for women and one that I have seen time and time again.

Perhaps I should try to research the effect of socioeconomic calculus on female desire for my dissertation. If I only knew wtf that actually means...

 

[Miss Hunter]

You know what would dry your pussy even more? Imagining a 4 or even a 3.5 on top of you.

C'mon sweetie. A simple thought exercise. Lay on your bed. Imagine a 4 or hell even a 3. Is there something he can say that will want you to do the dirty with him? Is there something he can say to override millions of years of high level evolution informing you of the many features he lacks which you don't. Facial harmony which you may have that he does not.

Nothing. There is nothing he can say. You cannot override your biological imperative with niceties and hope. Those niceties would have your resultant offspring be dead in the old days

You don't understand shit about my pussy. Just as I don't understand shit about "socioeconomic calculus"

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Attractiveness is somewhat culturally relative....some cultures value women with hairy arms, others do not. Anyways were all just one pubic hair away from monkies in any event, and we act like it 99.99999% of the time.

This op is bound for some big dissapointments in life, most of them self inflicted.

 

[Shanghai]

Is it a babies fault for breaking their bottle?

Yes, it is a baby's fault for breaking their bottle. It is the parent's fault for giving them something breakable.
I would be curious to see who would be interested in getting you a new bottle. Perhaps a poll is in order.
Babies learn accountability too. By breaking something, they get a new memory and they learn not to do it again.

 

[angry anderson]

That's fine, I'll just go back as a man and bring antibiotics.

Wouldn't worry about the man thing. He would probably find you close enough. lol