C.D.C. Weighs Advising Everyone to Wear a Mask

[lenny]

"B.C.'s top doctor considers recommending face masks":

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-s-top-doctor-considers-recommending-face-masks-1.4878725


"B.C. health officer says homemade masks may prevent spread of COVID-19 to others":

"Dr. Bonnie Henry said Wednesday the World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control is moving towards supporting more extensive use of masks by people during the pandemic.

A study by researchers in Singapore estimates that about 10 per cent of new infections may be sparked by people who carry the virus but have not yet suffered its flu-like symptoms. That then prompted American health officials to change how it defined the risk of infection.

...Canadian public health officials, including Henry, have previously said people who are feeling well do not need to wear masks in public.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...asks-may-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-to-others

"Top doctor ‘not against’ widespread mask use...

B.C.’s provincial health officer said Wednesday that she is “not against” the widespread use of non-medical masks as the world grapples with the novel coronavirus pandemic.

...There is growing evidence that people may be able to spread the virus before realizing they have symptoms.

...“[They] may reduce in some cases the touching of your face … we also know they can have some benefit about keeping your droplets in.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/6763036/bc-coronavirus-update-april-1/

 

[lenny]

LA Mayor Eric Garcetti urging residents to wear masks....

https://time.com/5814245/los-angeles-coronavirus-masks/

 

[haakon]

Canada and the US and the West in general kept telling us masks were useless and didn't help at all -OF COURSE DOCTORS AND NURSES FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON WEAR MASKS, but maybe they only wear them for decorative purposes or maybe to hide their identities but definitely not to protect themselves because you know, masks are useless... !! Korean and chinese and Asians in general wore masks, which is maybe, maybe what kept the infections there from getting out of control like they did in EU, Can and the US. Then, suddenly in Germany and Austria and probably other European countries they had a change of policy and just yesterday in Germany and before that in Austrian they made it mandatory for people to wear masks in public places or while using public transportations ! Then the US just yesterday said they were thinking about telling people there to start wearing masks ! Only a couple of days ago they -along with canada- were insisting that masks were useless !!!
It IS a shame that they for a long time kept telling us masks were useless and worse than that, they were telling us not to buy masks so we won't deplete the reserve of masks and to leave them for those who need them most (doctors...) !!!!!!!!!!!! WTF !! Are you telling me they were giving doctors and nurses masks they bought at the Dollar Store or hardware stores, 'cause you know, that's where most people got their masks ?!!!! What kind of a joke is this ??? The other joke, are you telling me a country like canada doesn't have and cannot make enough masks for all ?? This is just scandalous.
They're just making fools of themselves and just show us how unreliable they are when it comes to accurate information. Their credibility has also taken a big hit now but do they really care ?

I don't care if masks reduce my chance of getting the virus by only 10%. I'd take 10% reduction than zero, any time.

Well said. Any amount of added protection, small or large, is clearly better than none. Logic and common sense says that a barrier between my mucous membranes and an invisible cloud of virus particles is better than no barrier.

 

[masterblaster]

I don’t have any masks at home. Have a couple of bandanas, could wear one of those like robbers used to wear in the old days when they were going to stick up a bank.

 

[jgg]

I don’t have any masks at home. Have a couple of bandanas, could wear one of those like robbers used to wear in the old days when they were going to stick up a bank.

How to guide. Your welcome.

Bandanna, soak it in urine, your's or a wolf's. Wrap around your head. Guaranteed to work, no one will come near you and you won't want to breathe. Leave the real masks for my daughter and son-in-law, both front line Docs.

 

[masterblaster]

Bandanna, soak it in urine, your's or a wolf's. Wrap around your head. Guaranteed to work, no one will come near you and you won't want to breathe. Leave the real masks for my daughter and son-in-law, both front line Docs.

That was common practice during WWI to help from breathing in mustard gas. Think I’ll pass on that particular advice nowadays.

 

[jgg]

That was common practice during WWI to help from breathing in mustard gas...

It worked for my Grandfather.

 

[lenny]

Vancouver hospital rejects masks' donation.

Vancouver hospital rejects masks' donation.

Many authorities have been concerned about the public purchasing masks they claim are needed by hospitals. I recently contacted a downtown hospital concerning 50 medical masks i had obtained. These masks were not N95's but similar to these:

https://www.amazon.com/Disposable-S...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=G8WT3BD68NETQWC67D0Q

The hospital (St. Paul's) informed me they would not accept these masks because they need to be sealed. So maybe hospitals are not really so desperate for masks?

Those masks say "disposable" but i wonder if they can be sterilized & reused &/or some tissue or plastic material placed between them and the user's face for safety before reuse.

In other news, i noticed that way more people are wearing masks than a week or two ago, both employees in stores & pedestrians walking about.

 

[Horn_dawg]

Vancouver hospital rejects masks' donation.

Many authorities have been concerned about the public purchasing masks they claim are needed by hospitals. I recently contacted a downtown hospital concerning 50 medical masks i had obtained. These masks were not N95's but similar to these:

https://www.amazon.com/Disposable-S...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=G8WT3BD68NETQWC67D0Q

The hospital (St. Paul's) informed me they would not accept these masks because they need to be sealed. So maybe hospitals are not really so desperate for masks?

Those masks say "disposable" but i wonder if they can be sterilized & reused &/or some tissue or plastic material placed between them and the user's face for safety before reuse.

In other news, i noticed that way more people are wearing masks than a week or two ago, both employees in stores & pedestrians walking about.

With unsealed masks, they can't tell if someone peed in them to make them N95.

 

[appleomac]

With unsealed masks, they can't tell if someone peed in them to make them N95.

LOL! So, take thee donation and pee on them. At worst you get N95 and if they were already pee'd on once, you now got N190 - assuming my math works out

 

[masterblaster]

It worked for my Grandfather.

Will keep it in mind next time there’s a mustard gas attack.

 

[lenny]

Amazon Bans Sale Of N95 And Surgical Masks To General Public

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...e-Of-N95-And-Surgical-Masks-To-General-Public

 

[Horn_dawg]

LOL! So, take thee donation and pee on them. At worst you get N95 and if they were already pee'd on once, you now got N190 - assuming my math works out

Wow, you must have really potent pee. Mine only makes the mask to go from N90 to N95.

 

[lenny]

White House expected to urge Americans to wear face coverings in public to slow spread of coronavirus

The White House is expected to urge Americans to begin wearing cloth masks or face coverings in public to help prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus, in a reversal of its earlier recommendations.

President Trump said Thursday at a coronavirus task force briefing that “a recommendation is coming out” but “I don’t think it will be mandatory. If people want to wear them, they can." Vice President Pence, who heads the task force, confirmed the guidance would be released in “coming days.”

However, a White House official said the guidance being considered is “narrowly targeted to areas with high community transmission” and the matter remains under discussion.

White House coronavirus task force officials have been considering whether to recommend that face coverings be routinely worn in public because of increasing evidence that infected people without symptoms can spread the virus, according to internal memos and new guidance provided to the White House by the CDC

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/02/coronavirus-facemasks-policyreversal/

 

[lenny]

"The CDC’s memos have noted that widespread public use of masks is not culturally accepted in the United States the way it is in many Asian countries, where face coverings helped reduce the spread of the virus."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/02/coronavirus-facemasks-policyreversal/

 

[PabloS]

Where are all these people walking around getting their masks from?With donated masks, you never know if they're counterfeit, made to official specifications or manufactured like this: https://streamable.com/pvbio7.What really pisses me off (besides Dr. Henry's attitude on masks and contract tracing) is we have so many fitness fanatics out there who won't respect your space and jog or cycle right next to you breathing heavily, some even coughing.

 

[lenny]

"Richmond supermarket requires people to wear face masks if they want to enter":

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/...r-face-masks-if-they-want-to-enter-1.24110728

 

[lenny]

Where are all these people walking around getting their masks from?

Good questions, PabloS.

Some are getting them online:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...ABKogBU5IBATKYAQCqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab

Others using items or materials at home:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...hUKEwigx6Sy88zoAhVBop4KHX92CVAQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

There are various kinds of masks/shields with different effectiveness vs COVID-19, such as, for a few examples:

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=shield+mask&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=hockey+shield+mask&ref=nb_sb_noss

Studies indicate how effective various materials are:

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/

With donated masks, you never know if they're counterfeit, made to official specifications or manufactured like this: https://streamable.com/pvbio7 What really pisses me off (besides Dr. Henry's attitude on masks and contract tracing) is we have so many fitness fanatics out there who won't respect your space and jog or cycle right next to you breathing heavily, some even coughing.

Wearing a mask will protect such fanatics from us, if we're infected. IMO they will also offer us some degree of protection from them if they're infected, as per, for example:

"How We'll Beat The Coronavirus: EVERYONE Should Wear A Mask":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkN8yCWSGus&feature=emb_title

"How to Significantly Slow Coronavirus? (featuring Minister of Health of the Czech Rep.) #Masks4All":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtEX2-n2Hc&feature=emb_title

 

[masterblaster]

"Richmond supermarket requires people to wear face masks if they want to enter":

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/...r-face-masks-if-they-want-to-enter-1.24110728

That’s crazy in my opinion. I’d tell them to go fuck them selves and get groceries somewhere else.

 

[jgg]

STAY THE FUCK HOME! Leave the available masks for health care workers. My daughter is a doc, quarantined at home awaiting test results. A fuck of a lot of good that is! STAY THE FUCK HOME!