No sex please, we’re millennials
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Working harder does not equal a better job. Working harder does not equal a better life. The truth is most people end up where they are due to chance circumstance. You know 500 people apply for the manager position at "Walmart" . Everyone equally qualified yet only one gets the job. It's luck. People try to tell themselves it's hard work, dedication, etc.. Come on it's luck.
To say that the door greeter or cart person is where they are because they don't work hard is rather insulting.
When and if you last hired someone, did they get the job because they were good, or were they lucky?
By God you're right. Let's follow each other so we all reach the lowest common denominator. Why would anyone want to work harder,smarter or better to improve their position, I should be entitled because I exist.
No, never get angry. Never solves anything.
I would say you should look at your organization. It appears after interviews, your candidates saw something they didn't like.
You are correct that working harder doesn’t equate directly with financial success. Working intelligently and hard, with mentorship, guidance, and a plan for the future most definitely does work and is very achievable for a vast majority of the population. Luck is often thrown around by a lot of people that have an extremely hard time accepting responsibility for their current circumstances.
500 people apply for a job at Walmart as a manager. If a person applies for that job traditionally, like we are told, it probably won’t work. Why? The person that gets the job may appear lucky but here is the reality. Almost all success comes from being able to connect and work well with people. As a highly educated person, I used to think the best credentials would win. I used to believe that seniority and doing a great job was the key to a promotion.
My family was blue collar and I was told the same thing 99% of the population is told about how to get ahead. I used to think it was luck too since I kept getting passed over for jobs by people that, at the time, were seemingly less qualified.
One day at 26, an inflated ego, and sense of entitlement, someone younger, less educated, and less experience than me got the job I was sure I was going to get and I was so pissed off I quit and pretty much told everyone there to fuck off.
As I was taking the elevator down, a senior VP at the time, escorted me out and I’ll never forget that talk.
He told me that I was a charismatic, intelligent, well educated young man and I had the makings of someone that could go as far as billions but that it would never happen because I was playing the game all wrong.
I told him that it’s bullshit. I come in early, stay late, do an amazing job as far as results, I’m honest and creative etc. Then he told me that all those qualities are great as an employee. I’m an employers dream but I will never go beyond a basic level because I operate at a lower level of thinking.
I grew up thinking all rich people were assholes and that the lazy executives are scumbags because they just golf and socialize, and never really do any of the “work”. The reality is that this is how a lot of people think and I looked down on the seemingly lazy higher ups.
I had to make a choice. Either I work like my parents and be pissed of at the man or accept that maybe there is a different way to play the game of life and make something of myself.
I asked that VP to mentor me and he agreed. The next year I did everything I had thought was pointless and stupid and my life changed drastically. The next job I got was a filler job (work to pay bills but that’s all). I began volunteering, joined a tennis club because I always wanted to learn, and I became very open and friendly and did my best to give back and support people around me. I did it initially because I was hoping someone would return the favour. Over time I began enjoying the people I was meeting, became close friends and as a result, dropped my expectations.
Over time I was able to connect with people who would then offer me positions. No typical moving up the ranks and dealing with the usual HR process. I became the guy I used to hate but I then realized that a big part of success has to do with our connections and a level of trust.
Fast forward to now, I own a few different businesses internationally and while I’m not shy about the fact I’ve done well and I’m smart but I can say that my success has been the result of the trusted relationships I’ve built over the years. I work hard but not the way a 9-5er works hard. It’s a different type of work. This ties into the comments in this thread about generation M having entitlement issues and lack of sex because at the root, it’s about being able to socially interact and connect with people.
The computer generation is very brilliant but I see many of them lacking in the social skills department. I can’t tell you how many brilliant scientists who are 10 times smarter than myself that I’ve hired for incredibly modest salaries. For a business to be successful, there needs to be a lot of smart people involved, but the most important part is building solid and trusted relationships, genuinely wanting to help, and being relentless in the face of failure.
This generation doesn’t know failure because everyone gets a participation ribbon, everyone texts and the human connection is a foreign attribute for many.
I don’t mean to criticize your post above. I just see a lot of how I used to think in the above and felt compelled to share my experience. ^_^
A "gross exaggeration" implies that you want to believe everyone is a unique snowflake, with their own independent will, free of group mentality.....and applying this notion to HIGH SCHOOL KIDS......anyone who's ever been to high school, before or after grad, knows the sycophantic nature of the teenage social hierarchy. It's not rocket-science.
And you think I'm placing men on a higher pedestal than girls? Hell nah. Men are just as self-centered as well. Except they wouldn't be calling her a "fat ugly bitch", they'd call her "practice".
I doubt someone like Henry Cavill uses cheezy R-rated pick up lines, sends dick pics, and pinches butts in the copy room when interacting with women though. If normal upstanding men have a problem talking with women, then maybe it's on women to 'reevaluate' how these interactions should go.
The whole point of mentioning Matt Lauer was since his firing, HR departments from NBC to Netflix has created the '5 second rule', where if you look at a fellow female employee for longer than 5 seconds that female is within their right to claim harassment. Yes, it's a far cry from getting gestapo'd off the street and shot in a backalley because of an accusation, but when rules like this are implemented in the private sector one has to worry what or when the next step happens in the public sector....hence the whole point of this thread, where people are afraid to breed.
As for Wienstein, who's trial is still on-going, I do believe some justice will be served upon him. Except if you paid attention to the details of his defense, understand that no one is truly innocent nor a victim in this circumstance. The "casting couch" is very real Hollywood, and some of the big name actress would never have gotten where they are if they didn't place themselves on that couch WILLINGLY. Notice how news surrounding Wienstien has gotten quiet over the months? You don't think he has a few bombshells to drop about the MeToo heroines? I wonder who tipped off press about Asia Argento's "grooming" practices?
Being attractive isn’t an accomplishment, so complimenting someone on their looks isn’t a compliment. It’s creepy and, frankly, frightening. You never know what a man’s motives are. MOST women have been assaulted. So no, we won’t “loosen up”. We’re sick of this shit.
Oh, are you scared to have your power taken away? Boo fucking hoo. You all suck at wielding power and those days are coming to an end.
Yeah because they’re children. Also why are we talking about hitting on children? What the fuck is going on here?
Drake is a creepy pervert who groomed a child. What is going on. What are you talking about. Stop.
It’s so interesting how the second women want to be treated with respect, you pretend there are some “rules” you “can’t understand”. Literally just treat us like real human people, peers, equals. No? Is that beyond you? Nice. And your “not all men” crap is so ridiculous.
The real reason *some* men “can’t” talk to women is because you don’t know how to treat us with respect. That’s it. Those are “the rules”. Jesus H Christ.
Are you right now saying that women who are raped or assaulted should shut up about it for risk they’ll ruin their abuser’s livelihood? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU!? This whole thing is ridiculously off topic, anyways.
You wanna know why millennials are having less sex? We’re tired. There are endless statistics on how inflation has fucked us. We can’t afford to buy a house, pay for school, etc etc. Also, men are TERRIBLE at sex and most people are still heterosexual. Men don’t listen or seem to care about what we need. Men are creepy, needy, often emotionally unavailable and stunted. This documentary is a good one for explaining how all that bullshit came to be:
Having sex with men was so hard for me I realized that I should charge for it, and now I do. I DESERVE it (honestly all women do) because there is SO MUCH emotional and physical labour required when sleeping with men. This is the honest fucking truth and mister Incel McGee Big Guy Rye (whom I would bet money has assaulted multiple women in his life) is evidence of how much men really don’t give a flying fuck about women or what our needs or wants are.
Thank satan for whores, am I right? No wonder this "hobby" (gross) is so expensive.
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You have said a lot here Clementine, so I didn't want to try and comment on everything, nor do I need to, but I agree that millennials have too much to worry about when it comes to life to have sex. As for the terrible sex thing, I feel that I am very caring and attentive to my partners needs. At least I try to be. Unfortunately I am still figuring out the dance of sex right now, but I always want to make sure that my partner, including if she is a sex worker, had as good of a time as possible. I'm sure you and a lot of women have these opinions of men. That were "creepy, needy, often emotionally unavailable and stunted." but it's hard for us (or at least me) to find the balance. Oddly enough, it's visiting sex workers that has allowed me to be better at improving myself in these areas. When you can be opened and venerable in a safe structured environment like a date with a caring sex worker, I feel it helps me test out what women are looking for in my average life and adjust to it.
See this makes me feel horrible. Clementine, If I find myself in the good financial position to book you again, I don't want you to ever feel that I am a chore of a client to be with. If you feel that I am texting too many questions, or acting too needy, always tell me. I don't want you to ever feel you have to go through with it, even if I have given you the deposit. I would feel like the absolute worst if you feel miserable in my presence. I'm probably never going to be the guy with enough money to relive your greatest moment of a $12,000 date, but I still hope that even in a short time of one hour I can make you feel special.
P.S Tell me too if my "cyber stalking" of you is getting too far, like with that whole $12,000 answer from your "relive best day" answer on Curious Cat. I'm not obsessed with you, but I do worry that my responses may come off that way. I just think your interesting, that's all.:tickled_pink:
Thanks for this. I was never sure if the description of visiting a sex worker as a "hobby" was gross or not.
Now see, when I make a comment like that I get jumped on and called an asshole. Just saying...
Hey darling! I definitely feel like visiting sex workers to better understand women and our needs is an INCREDIBLE way to improve as a lover. I have a lot of men booking me for instructional sessions and I love it. Remember, though, that there is a "show" aspect to sex work! Sex workers respond differently than civs to sex. We love that we're being respected for our time by getting paid for it, and we want you to have a memorable time. That's what gets us off the most. <3
I don’t spend time or invite back clients who are a chore to be with, and I’m pretty sure I invited you back (if I didn’t, this is me doing it). If this job felt like a chore, I wouldn’t do it. What I was talking about was having sex for free. Intimacy in sex work is so different. With my repeat clients, I feel respected, powerful, beautiful, and cared for in a way I never have been by men. I ALWAYS feel special in bookings, and I hope you do too. I’m not sure what you’re talking about with this $12,000 date btw. I was prepaid by a sugar daddy, it was $12,000 for 4 months of hard (albeit rewarding) work. And you’re not cyber stalking me! My social media is there to interact with clients. If you ever annoyed me, I’m definitely the type to tell you. <3
Not true for me. Conventionally attractive men actually frighten me the most, because they're often very entitled. I've generally not dated conventionally attractive men. The handsome, charming, captivating ones (in my experience) are often the abusive ones. My hottest, best-liked partner was the one who covered me in bruises after "rescuing" me from sex work.
Also, who fucking cares what women respond to, you're not entitled to a response from anyone. IMO best way to hit on a woman in public is to just maybe make a bit of eye contact and smile (A NICE SMILE NOT A CREEPY ONE, and not like prolonged, lustful, undress-her-with-your-eyes eye contact) like you see someone interesting you'd like to get to know, not like you see someone *hot* that you want to *fuck*. If she's interested she'll probably do the same back or stop and talk with you. If she doesn't do those things, forget about it and leave her be. Public space doesn't belong to men anymore and us letting you harass us because you feel like we *should* be interested in you is coming to an end.
Be kind and approachable, not a whiny POS who is annoyed that women don't want your unsolicited compliments.
There seems to be a lot of rather crude generalizations being tossed around here. It's too bad that some people have gone through some terrible things from some real assholes.
I feel for all of you.
In my experience, in many parts of life, the assholes tend to stand out.
I'll only hit on two topics. There are a shitload of disrespectful guys out there and it's been very slow to change. It's getting better but much too slowly!
On the topic of complimenting people about there looks, there is a good way and bad way to do it. I get a few compliments occasionally and always give back a pleasant thank you if the compliment is tasteful.
To be honest, I don't give a shit about how I look but just try not to look intimidating because I'm a big guy and that in itself can be a problem for me.
I know a lot of people that work very hard to look good and a "tasteful" compliment is usually appreciated.
I usually keep it simple such as......the colour looks great on you or..... your hair style really suits your face structure..... never anything crude.
Peace out, everyone!
I feel for all of you.
In my experience, in many parts of life, the assholes tend to stand out.
I'll only hit on two topics. There are a shitload of disrespectful guys out there and it's been very slow to change. It's getting better but much too slowly!
On the topic of complimenting people about there looks, there is a good way and bad way to do it. I get a few compliments occasionally and always give back a pleasant thank you if the compliment is tasteful.
To be honest, I don't give a shit about how I look but just try not to look intimidating because I'm a big guy and that in itself can be a problem for me.
I know a lot of people that work very hard to look good and a "tasteful" compliment is usually appreciated.
I usually keep it simple such as......the colour looks great on you or..... your hair style really suits your face structure..... never anything crude.
Peace out, everyone!
It's hard to walk down the street these days and not be bothered by men. Especially in the spring and summer. One of the most irritating experiences was last spring, I almost whacked a guy (he was much taller than me and over double my weight) with a book who intentionally blocked my path so he could try to woo me with a sleazy pick up line on the sidewalk as I was minding my own business on my way to a foot massage appointment.
I don't run around threatening men with books every time they try to give me a compliment, it was just an instinctual reflex. He blocked my path and got far too close into my personal space for comfort.
The men who "aren't all men" are the ones who don't feel the need to defend themselves. The ones who are like "I ShOuLd Be AbLe To CoMpLiMeNt WoMeN" are generally the ones who aren't really complimenting, they're harassing. You sound like you're probably not the harassing type. The compliments you listed are much more tasteful than most of the ones I usually get. Tone of voice makes a HUGE difference too. I've ignored men when they've complimented me and they call me a bitch, as if I owe them a response. I don't. This has happened MANY times.
I get that sex worker sex isn't the same as civ sex, though sometimes the little head doesn't always realize that, but hey, practice of any kind makes perfect!
Oh you did invite me back. I think I just got lost in what this thread was meaning. This thread is about men who hit on women in general in public. I just take my visits to sex workers seriously. My reputation and how they feel when they are with me is of paramount importance to me. I always feel special when I book with an escort, and my experience with you was a standout special time you Salt and Vinegar Vixen!
That was the $12,000 thing I was talking about. I always have a little regret that I can't throw down $1000+ to have the proper date before the sex. I want to get to know the escorts I'm with as people, but if I tried to save up for those dates every time I would never see anyone. As for the stalking part, well you just followed me today so that question is answered!
Shit! I'm sorry that you are having to go through this crap! There is definitely some/ many guys that just don't get it..... it's the generalizing that bothers me the most.......but I've always gone by the beat of my own drum and have never fit into the mainstream.
Again, sorry that people have to deal with this shit in the 21st century!
