Trudeau how can he win the next election

[storm rider]

Liars the federal Liberals may be. But pointing out legalizing marijuana and taxing it is not really a good example of Liberals being liars - because that's exactly what the Liberals said they were going to do.

I guess I was being obtuse....did that offend you?

One of the few "promises" he made on the last hustings was "legal weed" as well as a larger "child tax credit" and it is kept.Yeah we have legal weed(big deal) and the larger Lieberal Child Tax Credit just fucks over the middle class that Trudeau was "fighting for the middle class and those wishing to join it" as he so often says in the House of Commons or his proxies repeat the same thing ad nauseam.Truth be told yes it is a larger amount of money but it is TAXED.The Conservative alternative was LESS but it was not TAXED and it also included tax write offs.

Under Trudeau the average family is paying $850 more per year in TAXES and that does not count the cost of the Carbon Tax.IfI wont even list the costs Trudeau has chalked up on the black board as if I were a kid writing lines for "detention" when I was in grade school....I dont want to take the time to list them as they are so bad.

SR

 

[appleomac]

I guess I was being obtuse....did that offend you?

One of the few "promises" he made on the last hustings was "legal weed" as well as a larger "child tax credit" and it is kept.Yeah we have legal weed(big deal) and the larger Lieberal Child Tax Credit just fucks over the middle class that Trudeau was "fighting for the middle class and those wishing to join it" as he so often says in the House of Commons or his proxies repeat the same thing ad nauseam.Truth be told yes it is a larger amount of money but it is TAXED.The Conservative alternative was LESS but it was not TAXED and it also included tax write offs.

Under Trudeau the average family is paying $850 more per year in TAXES and that does not count the cost of the Carbon Tax.IfI wont even list the costs Trudeau has chalked up on the black board as if I were a kid writing lines for "detention" when I was in grade school....I dont want to take the time to list them as they are so bad.

SR

Not offended in the least. But perhaps posting an article to keep the thread updated on the latest LavScam development you should simply post the article and be done with it. Opining about lies and presenting evidence (i.e. weed legalization) that is inconsistent with your point (i.e. lies) seem somewhat counterproductive.

 

[clu]

I guess I was being obtuse....did that offend you?

One of the few "promises" he made on the last hustings was "legal weed" as well as a larger "child tax credit" and it is kept.Yeah we have legal weed(big deal) and the larger Lieberal Child Tax Credit just fucks over the middle class that Trudeau was "fighting for the middle class and those wishing to join it" as he so often says in the House of Commons or his proxies repeat the same thing ad nauseam.Truth be told yes it is a larger amount of money but it is TAXED.The Conservative alternative was LESS but it was not TAXED and it also included tax write offs.

Under Trudeau the average family is paying $850 more per year in TAXES and that does not count the cost of the Carbon Tax.IfI wont even list the costs Trudeau has chalked up on the black board as if I were a kid writing lines for "detention" when I was in grade school....I dont want to take the time to list them as they are so bad.

SR

Having the Child Tax Credit larger but pretax instead of smaller but post-tax is actually a good thing. It effectively makes the credit favour lower incomes, which is a good thing. Even if it's a wash between the two for the lower income people, those with large incomes are less in need of it and will get less, making the net cost of the programme cheaper overall. So in principle that's fine.

Now if everyone is paying more then that's a complaint in its own right.

 

[storm rider]

Having the Child Tax Credit larger but pretax instead of smaller but post-tax is actually a good thing. It effectively makes the credit favour lower incomes, which is a good thing. Even if it's a wash between the two for the lower income people, those with large incomes are less in need of it and will get less, making the net cost of the programme cheaper overall. So in principle that's fine.

Now if everyone is paying more then that's a complaint in its own right.

EVERY Middle Class Family is now paying more in TAXES under Trudeau who "wants to help them"....a gal who works at one of my timecalls gets NO child tax benefit under the Trudeau regime and no tax breaks either....she is just paying more taxes.Same goes for EVERY person in the same bracket.MORE taxes and because they make as much as they do....MIDDLE CLASS....they get fucked.....Trudeau is not looking to help the "middle class" he is trying to destroy it......get society where he and the globalist elite want it....them at the top and the PROLES at the bottom....all whilst enjoying the fruits of the labour of other people.....because "they" know what is best for society.

SR

 

[appleomac]

I guess I was being obtuse....did that offend you?

One of the few "promises" he made on the last hustings was "legal weed" as well as a larger "child tax credit" and it is kept.Yeah we have legal weed(big deal) and the larger Lieberal Child Tax Credit just fucks over the middle class that Trudeau was "fighting for the middle class and those wishing to join it" as he so often says in the House of Commons or his proxies repeat the same thing ad nauseam.Truth be told yes it is a larger amount of money but it is TAXED.The Conservative alternative was LESS but it was not TAXED and it also included tax write offs.

Under Trudeau the average family is paying $850 more per year in TAXES and that does not count the cost of the Carbon Tax.IfI wont even list the costs Trudeau has chalked up on the black board as if I were a kid writing lines for "detention" when I was in grade school....I dont want to take the time to list them as they are so bad.

SR

Exactly what are you referring to when you say "Child Tax Credit"? Are you referring to the Canada Child Benefit introduced in 2016? If so, the Canada Child Benefit is tax free cash. Before the Canada Child Benefit there were are "child benefits" such as the Universal Child Care Benefit (UCBB), which was a taxable benefit. Perhaps you should actually research your own talking points.

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...y-benefits/canada-child-benefit-overview.html

 

[Forum mod]

at 25 pages, I'd say that this isn't convincing anyone to change sides of the debate. Thread closed.