Atlantic article "Why are Young People Having so Little Sex?"

[Chessmen]

Pretty eye opening article with some statistics to back up its arguments.
This research caught my attention.
For example, did you know

"The authors of a 2009 study in The Journal of Sexual Medicine speculated that “if a man or woman has not had intercourse by age 25, there is a reasonable chance [he or she] will remain a virgin at least until age 45.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

From your experience and people you know, is it true that men and women who have not had intimate relationships by age 25 will not have a relationship until age 45?

This article doesn't really explain why, but I somehow have my doubts that being single at 25 (without intimate relationship) means you won't get another chance til you are 45...

 

[Lo-ki]

 

[Gardener]

Read the book iGen, it explains in detail why young people are not having sex, driving, developing close friendships and are feeling lonely. A single device is causing all of these negatives.

 

[E.H.]

I would say that people who had not had sexual relations(INCEL/Involuntary Celibate) by the time their past 25,are more psychologically vulnerable to willfully suffering bogus partners,later in life.

People who have had the benefit of sexual fulfillment in their teens & early 20s',are not reluctant to part ways with a bogus partner,because their lives have known much better.

Engelbert Humperdink

 

[apl16]

What a damn shame! The internet has made my sex life so much better. It's made it so much easier to hook up with someone.
That said..... I miss the opportunities from Craigslist.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Too easy to remain isolated re personal contacts and an over-reliance on do-it-yourself porn.

 

[Chessmen]

What a damn shame! The internet has made my sex life so much better. It's made it so much easier to hook up with someone.
That said..... I miss the opportunities from Craigslist.

Yes, that's what I thought too. But it seems to be the opposite for some people. Technology and social media is preventing young people from getting laid and developing relationships to an extent

 

[sybian]

Yes, that's what I thought too. But it seems to be the opposite for some people. Technology and social media is preventing young people from getting laid and developing relationships to an extent

That is why, when at the time of the gather, and I hire 4 to 6 Cowboys , or Cowgirls.....I ban the use of iPhones when outside of the bunkhouse....or on my yard during daylight hours.
One little cantankerous Cowboy challenged me on that rule.....I explained to him. " there is no cell signal down in this valley, and you don't have my Wi-Fi password. The only place you can get a cell signal to any degree is up in the high country ( for some reason there is a strong cell signal when the mountain tops are cleared) when your in the high country you are gathering my stock and working.....no employer will allow social media time when he is paying your wages."

The young man kept challenging me , he insisted it was his right to " keep up with what's going on with his buddies at home".... I told him he could no longer bring his freaking phone to work, and return emails, go on Facebook when he is working, or he could go join his buddies down in Langley.
At one point I removed his cell from his hands and placed it on a stump, and threatened to send a projectile through it....the social media time was so important to him, but he couldn't take the time, when off of work to drive into the mountains, and spend his free time on his phone.
Needless to say he didn't work out, as he never saw my point of view...he returned home to his precious cell signal, and his phone intact, so he could sit on his parents living room chair, and talk to his buddies through a 4 inch screen.

 

[superdude3]

i agree with that social media the internet is real problem but thats life 21st centrey

 

[take8easy]

Are they suggesting that older, married people are having more sex?

(rolling my eyes, esp at married)

T8E

 

[apl16]

I recently spent some time with a young lady of about 25 years. She was complaining about people hating on her on social media. I told her that she has the power.....the power to block people, ignore people, or just shut off her phone.
I convinced her that people that are shifting on her should not influence her and that mean comments from anonymous idiots should have no impact on her life.
The internet is a very good tool but use it for what is positive for you.

In the end, we developed a good connection and she gave me an extra bonus and her personal phone number....

 

[Chessmen]

I would say that people who had not had sexual relations(INCEL/Involuntary Celibate) by the time their past 25,are more psychologically vulnerable to willfully suffering bogus partners,later in life.

People who have had the benefit of sexual fulfillment in their teens & early 20s',are not reluctant to part ways with a bogus partner,because their lives have known much better.

Engelbert Humperdink

hmm, but is it true that a person who experienced a few random hook ups in their teens and early 20s really are at an advantage over their "incel" peers when it comes to later relationships and intimacy? Or it could be a guy who only gets action at massage parlours but it is debatable whether that kind of experience actually prepares them for any future girlfriends or emotional stability

 

[LalaniElectrica]

With cell phones, internet and technology, a lot of younger people hardly even make eye contact, let alone find out how to entice a sexual partner, except of course the true sluts out there who are using the tech to be even more slutty, applause!! Not to mention the countless youth confused about their gender and sexuality... Im pleasantly surprised when I have 20 something friends having kids! It's literally a miracle this day and age. I feel for the incel people, males and females, it can be very very frustrating getting rejected or always being the guy in the "friend" zone who women feel safe around and like, but for whatever reason they never make it past the friend zone. Or even the female who gets turned down by the one guy she likes, she may be less inclined to approach a partner. Technology may be our downfall...

 

[Relax10]

Yes, that's what I thought too. But it seems to be the opposite for some people. Technology and social media is preventing young people from getting laid and developing relationships to an extent

Chessmen,

My buddy has a 22 yr old son who rather hang out online then be around really people because thats his comfort zone. And a lot of it is exactly like what your saying. He cant take a shit without a iPhone/iPad with him, lol.............yeah I get some people are just introverts but tech has given them more reason to be that and hide.

 

[Relax10]

Are they suggesting that older, married people are having more sex?

(rolling my eyes, esp at married)

T8E

You reminded me of a news article I saw recently lol

https://www.verywellhealth.com/more-sex-for-older-adults-2224254

 

[ddcanz]

With cell phones, internet and technology, a lot of younger people hardly even make eye contact, let alone find out how to entice a sexual partner, except of course the true sluts out there who are using the tech to be even more slutty, applause!!….

And Thank God for those gals!

 

[E.H.]

hmm, but is it true that a person who experienced a few random hook ups in their teens and early 20s really are at an advantage over their "incel" peers when it comes to later relationships and intimacy? Or it could be a guy who only gets action at massage parlours but it is debatable whether that kind of experience actually prepares them for any future girlfriends or emotional stability

A few random hook-ups in their teens & early 20s',never hurts confidence and address curiosity.
In this age group;it's the girlfriend/boyfriend relationships lasting months/years,which better adjusts individuals to the pursuit of relationships & intimacy.
That;certainly more than alienation & detachment of being single,in which you are learning nothing to advance ones' self.

In my early 20s';I was the boyfriend of a young woman ,who would fit into the top 20% of desirability,for 3 years.
On my deathbed;I can never say my life went unfulfilled,for having not known true love and spellbinding beauty.
Yet I learned the realties of a dozen horny hounds,sniffing around,at any given time.
I also know what I gave of myself;to maintain that relationship,for which I'm not so inclined to ever do again.

My advice to prepare guys for future girlfriend & emotional stability,is the many different self-improvement videos,available on youtube.
For dating coach;there is Bobby Rio,who will explain & advise navigating,all the idiosyncracies & nuances of the present dating game.
For behavioral psychology;there is TopThink & FarFromAverage,which renders an objective understanding of why people are,as they are.

Always remember;smarter people think & act in terms of objectivity,not subjectivity.
Human nature is like the weather,it cannot be adjusted ones' liking.
Instead,learn predictabity,then adjust to human nature.
Establish an inner peace;with how you & others are and keep working towards self improvement.

Engelbert Humperdink

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

Social Media and technology is one part....but I blame identity politics, SJWs and "outrage culture" that augments through that technology to be a bigger issue.

I mean, look at that Gillette ad..... basically emasculating men through advertising meant for men. And on the flip-side you have feminism in media creating "Mary Sue" tropes, where the female lead can never do anything wrong by default. Don't get me wrong, I love an empowered independent woman, but social media is teaching themselves the wrong lessons on top of that.

So then a real culture of fear takes place, kicking these new gender rules in the head of kids who's too afraid (more than ever) to speak to the opposite sex. Afraid to think by talking about a boy makes them weak, or boys afraid to be called a rapist for looking in their direction for too long.

 

[E.H.]

Social Media and technology is one part....but I blame identity politics, SJWs and "outrage culture" that augments through that technology to be a bigger issue.

So then a real culture of fear takes place, kicking these new gender rules in the head of kids who's too afraid (more than ever) to speak to the opposite sex. Afraid to think by talking about a boy makes them weak, or boys afraid to be called a rapist for looking in their direction for too long.

That's why I recommend behavioral psychology youtube video channels(TopThink,FarFromAverage),because they call out the falsehoods about what people like to say and educate you on what is really at play.
I only wish such media was available 30 years ago.

Engelbert Humperdink