racism

[sevenofnine]

yes ok,
um hard to believe though,
the two being equal white and black, you would kick a black person out, and let the white guy sit in your coffee shop and not buy anything

hard to understand but
American's are a bit different.
maybe I have to admit, I came at it with pre conceived ideas,
but I live in a very multi cultural neighbour hood and in the work place im a minority,
I see racism were all polite, but there is a lot of racism,

either way if I owned a coffee shop,
no one would sit there for free.
that most of all played into my thinking,
im serious money is money, your not spending any get the hell out.

and as a coffee shop owner,
why would I alienate a portion of my customers,
money is money, why would I piss a group of people off,
who would never come back and spend money at my place, makes no sense.

makes no sense at all,

I kind of still think there is more going on,

and one more thing,
the coffee shops I visit, the staff is a visible minority
hard to imagine one visible minority picking on another, with out a reason.

anyway with out more info, I will have to concede,
though it doesn't make sense.

 

[sevenofnine]

the lady was in leftbridge not red deer,

my mistake,
she was fired from a car dealer ship, in Kelowna
and was rehired,

she claims she was baited and taunted,
I dunno, with out further information,
I tend to believe people what they say,
until I know they are liars.
give them the benefit of the doubt as I would say,

but I guess either way we will never really know, I mean we weren't there,

yeah she was drunk and made a fool of herself, no matter what happened she was in the wrong,
and she should have taken the high ground,

I think we have all had moments we aren't very proud, of,

I know I have,
hopefully you learn and move on.

 

[clu]

sevenofnine: see, on the coffee shop, that's exactly it... the person doing the double standard was just an employee, a barista. Not an owner. And the owners (Starbucks corporate) thought exactly that: why alienate a portion of their customers.

So they had a talk with their employees. Except they had so much egg on their face from how it blew up that they couldn't risk the standard "we talked to/fired that employee" because if it happened again after that they'd likely have an even harder time recovering from the controversy, so they just did the preemptive "everybody had a talking to" strategy to get a better shot at putting it to rest.

Same strategy the primary school teacher uses where when he/she has to deal with the same misbehaviour a few times, the whole class gets a talking to, even the ones who've done nothing wrong (yet).

p.s. re: the drunk outburst, I've always been of the opinion that drunkenness doesn't change who we are, it just messes with our restraint. I've done a few embarrassing things when I've been drunk (not racism FWIW) but nothing I could say wasn't consistent with who I really am, deep down.

 

[80watts]

Just read that the book "Little House on the Prairie" is being taking off the readers list for young kids because its has racist words in it. It was written in the late 1800s. Imagine changing Shakespear's words because they are too racy today......

Its funny, the bible gives people the 10 Commandments, two of them are "you shall not kill" and "don't commit adultery". The old testament in the bible is about killing and sex.

Today's world the right/political correctness is not to be a racist.

So now its impolite to say white, black, yellow, red....

Whats really funny is today's black artist that use the N word in their songs and in their movies. The rule of thought is that only black people can use the N word. Wrong.

Recently their was an singer/rapper who had a white teenage girl come up on stage, so when she sang the N word in that particular song he dissed her infront of the audience for using the N word. Hypocrite.

So where does that N word come from. In latin Niger means black. So the N word is a slang of the word black.

 

[clu]

So where does that N word come from. In latin Niger means black. So the N word is a slang of the word black.

That's rather deliberately ignoring the context. The word "f*gg*t" originally meant "bundle of sticks or kindling" (which is why that same word can mean cigarette in certain dialects). Good luck saying the word carries no burden because of that.

Yeah black performers use the word but white people get scolded for it. Double standards sting don't they? That's partially the point.

 

[sevenofnine]

grabbed a coffee just this morning

signs all over the place twenty minutes maximum stay
bathrooms locked,

a rough low life sort of customer, the nearest corner, is a haven for pan handlers.
I can see an understand, why you get into problems with your clients.
all of them in this case white by the way

many I suspect drug and or mental health issues or just finding life hard.

 

[sevenofnine]

is that the same thing as a couple of black men being asked to leave a restaurant

what the red hen restaurant and some place else.
well in the red hen some trump staffer was politely asked to leave, I forget her name or title.
and someone else was heckled until they were forced to leave,

is that not anti white racism or political racism.

 

[take8easy]

well in the red hen some trump staffer was politely asked to leave, I forget her name or title.


is that not anti white racism or political racism.

Sarah Sanders is her name.

She was kicked out because she works for Trump. I probably would not kick someone out because she or he works for Trump but I wouldn't mind having trouble kicking Mr Trump himself.

That's not anti white racism that is just good old fashioned of showing one's resentment towards govt.

 

[clu]

is that the same thing as a couple of black men being asked to leave a restaurant

what the red hen restaurant and some place else.
well in the red hen some trump staffer was politely asked to leave, I forget her name or title.
and someone else was heckled until they were forced to leave,

is that not anti white racism or political racism.

Political racism? Ok. First let's establish that racism is about race. The Sarah Huckabee-Sanders thing was about many things but her race wasn't the issue.

Also disclaimer: honestly I don't agree with her being kicked out.

But...

She was kicked out for being persona non grata, like David Duchovy being "banned" from the No. 5 Orange. It was about her specifically. Because she's a lying, sanctimonious, condescending sack of shit. Even "working for Trump" wouldn't likely have gotten her kicked out on its own. For example I'd've put money on them not having kicked John Kelly out.

Again I don't agree with it having been done, but it's one hell of a stretch to equate this with the Starbucks incident. They were seemingly singled out for the double standard because of the colour of their skin. She was singled out because of who she is and how she treats people.

tl;dr: Asshole isn't a race.

 

[Ray]

No different from when Joe Biden was refused service by a baker, and celebrated for it by conservatives.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-news-biden-baker-sarah-huckabee-red-hen-20180626-story.html