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badbadboy

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Interesting read and I wish they went into detail about the US Dairy industry. From what I've gathered their over production has led to the demise of smaller dairy operations. Making the large farms dominant throughout the US.
 

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Interesting read and I wish they went into detail about the US Dairy industry. From what I've gathered their over production has led to the demise of smaller dairy operations. Making the large farms dominant throughout the US.
the commie system we have, a quota system, has virtual done the same thing

since it's inception, all the farms have been consolidated into the hands of a few thousand dairy farmers, where virtually all are in Ont and Que, the reason it can't be dismantled

the gutless politicians are scared of their voting base

there used to be way more dairy farms, smaller ones, across the county

think about it, if someone came to you and told you that you couldn't start a business cause there is already too much of what you want to sell being sold?

you think that's what makes sense, is good for competition? it's Communism, plain and simple

the only people that gain from it are the producers, who don't have to compete

who have also been made millionaires, if they want to sell up, the quota, just the quota

monopolies aren't good for anyone, except those that hold them
 

badbadboy

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the commie system we have, a quota system, has virtual done the same thing

since it's inception, all the farms have been consolidated into the hands of a few thousand dairy farmers, where virtually all are in Ont and Que, the reason it can't be dismantled

the gutless politicians are scared of their voting base

there used to be way more dairy farms, smaller ones, across the county

think about it, if someone came to you and told you that you couldn't start a business cause there is already too much of what you want to sell being sold?

you think that's what makes sense, is good for competition? it's Communism, plain and simple

the only people that gain from it are the producers, who don't have to compete

who have also been made millionaires, if they want to sell up, the quota, just the quota

monopolies aren't good for anyone, except those that hold them
So explain why the world's largest producer of milk saw the price of milk go much higher when they deregulated? Read up on New Zealand's cost of dairy.
 

wetnose

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Our own dairy supply is also a matter of food independence. If our dairy production gets overtaken by American sources, guess what happens when the exchange rate drops? Price of milk goes up, hitting lower income Canadians disproportionately, for no reason at all.
 

sensualsixty

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Millionaire Dairy Farmers

When I lived in the country I had a dairy farmer as a neighbour. I am sure he is worth more than a million now that he has retired. BUT, one needs to look at how he got there.

He milked 90 to 100 cows, twice a day, 365 (or 366) days a year. I always smile when I read how these poor deprived police officers and firemen give up their Christmas day some years. What about all livestock farmers? Maintaining herd health, looking after calving (guess what - no calves, no milk), all take time, and illness does happen even in the best managed herds. Besides the milking, he grew the hay and grain to feed the animals, and even with a mechanized system, feeding takes time. I am sure that any day he had an eight hour day would be a soft day for him - many would be 16 hours.

Any tradesman working similar hours would also be able to amass a similar fortune.

Oh yes, I had another neighbour who could not hack the system, and he was shown the door. The fact that inefficient dairy farmers get the boot seems to be ignored.

He also found the time to engage with his community and help our neighbours.

Those who think dairy farmers have a soft touch are just plain ignorant.
 

JimDandy

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Millionaire Dairy Farmers

When I lived in the country I had a dairy farmer as a neighbour. I am sure he is worth more than a million now that he has retired. BUT, one needs to look at how he got there.

He milked 90 to 100 cows, twice a day, 365 (or 366) days a year. I always smile when I read how these poor deprived police officers and firemen give up their Christmas day some years. What about all livestock farmers? Maintaining herd health, looking after calving (guess what - no calves, no milk), all take time, and illness does happen even in the best managed herds. Besides the milking, he grew the hay and grain to feed the animals, and even with a mechanized system, feeding takes time. I am sure that any day he had an eight hour day would be a soft day for him - many would be 16 hours.

Any tradesman working similar hours would also be able to amass a similar fortune.

Oh yes, I had another neighbour who could not hack the system, and he was shown the door. The fact that inefficient dairy farmers get the boot seems to be ignored.

He also found the time to engage with his community and help our neighbours.

Those who think dairy farmers have a soft touch are just plain ignorant.
You are so right !!! If the average Joe worked 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, they would likely be a millionaire also.

JD
 

badbadboy

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If we were dealing with a rational human, normally i'd say there'd be room for give and take. If......
Sadly, this is so true.

It's all about the Red States that got him in there who over produce dairy products. Now that they are going broke doing it, they need us to buy their product. Such BS.

Where I don't agree with Canada's policy is on cheese quotas from Europe. Numerous different cheeses that are not even made in Canada are on a quota that makes it difficult to buy and the prices are obscene because of duties. I can see cheddars etc being on a quota but cave aged cheese from Switzerland or unpasteurized stilton from the UK. Who are they protecting? Or do they just throw every type of cheese into the quota system regardless if there is no dairy to protect in Canada?
 

ddcanz

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Sadly, this is so true.

It's all about the Red States that got him in there who over produce dairy products. Now that they are going broke doing it, they need us to buy their product. Such BS.

Where I don't agree with Canada's policy is on cheese quotas from Europe. Numerous different cheeses that are not even made in Canada are on a quota that makes it difficult to buy and the prices are obscene because of duties. I can see cheddars etc being on a quota but cave aged cheese from Switzerland or unpasteurized stilton from the UK. Who are they protecting? Or do they just throw every type of cheese into the quota system regardless if there is no dairy to protect in Canada?
We also don't buy US dairy products because of their use of growth hormones.
However, we do buy imported cheeses- the prices are ridiculously low- especially at Trader Joes' and Costco. True Swiss Gruyere is about half to 2/3 the price, not to mention the aged and veined cheeses from Britain, France and Italy. Spanish is also a bargain. And as noted earlier the selection is incredible.
 
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