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[JimDandy]

In the past when men were hiring, they might have been motivated to hire attractive young women over their less attractive candidates. Obviously this did not mean that every time a man hired an attractive young woman that he would end up sexually harassing her, but perhaps somewhere in the back of his mind he thought "you never know, something 'good' might happen with this hot young thing". Now, with all these sexuall harrassment stories coming out in the news, perhaps men will start hiring women they are not attracted to or even avoid hiring women at all by hiring men instead to avoid any possibility of getting into trouble. This could be good news for less attractive/older women and/or men competing for the same jobs as attractive women.

Thoughts?

JD

 

[Lets Review]

Didn't work out for George

 

[JimDandy]

Society has gone mad. I think it’s ridiculous if hiring decisions are made out of fear , instead of what’s best for an organization or company.

So an intelligent, good looking woman will get turned down for a position her job performance and education is suited for because of her looks?? And a less qualified less attractive woman, or man will get hired instead??Wtf.

I am only asking the question. I do not mean to say that it will actually happen. Also, I did not mean to imply that less attractive women or men that might now get the job would be less qualified than their more attractive counterparts. In fact, if anything, sometimes in the past I beleieve that the less qualified, but more attractive women, landed the position based on their good looks more so than on their qualifications. So if this change does occur, it may actually balance the books so to speak rather than the other way around.

JD

 

[JimDandy]

Take the feminist movement, for example. It’s turning into an angry, entitled, rage filled, eye-for an eye revenge fuelled monster. Not every feminist is like that, but there’s far too many these days. So I don’t see any guarantee of balance coming our way.

I find the current dichotomy very puzzling.

On the one hand we have feminists that say even when women dress in a sexie manner, us guys are not allowed to notice, let alone comment/compliment the women.

Then there are plenty of stories on the internet, TED talks, etc where psychologists comment on how when counselling teenagers, they find out that it is very common for both young men and women to think nothing of the guys receiving blow jobs at the end of a date, as freely as I might have received a good night kiss at the end of a date when I was their age. These teenage girls think of themeselves as sexul objects based, at least partially, on the commonly available porn on the internet. Small wonder they come to this conclusion considering that they are likely getting most of their "sex education" from this same porn.

It will be interesting to see how these diverging vectors eventually survive in the our future society.

JD

 

[MissingOne]

... Take the feminist movement, for example. It’s turning into an angry, entitled, rage filled, eye-for an eye revenge fuelled monster. ...

Let's hope the monster doesn't breed a counter-monster.

 

[take8easy]

Didn't they do these studies that concluded that attractive people tend to get jobs easier and they also get higher paid jobs too. Also, they are more likely to be trusted.

Go figure! A better looking SP would not do that, would she? (just kidding).

 

[ddcanz]

In the past when men were hiring, they might have been motivated to hire attractive young women over their less attractive candidates. Obviously this did not mean that every time a man hired an attractive young woman that he would end up sexually harassing her, but perhaps somewhere in the back of his mind he thought "you never know, something 'good' might happen with this hot young thing". Now, with all these sexuall harrassment stories coming out in the news, perhaps men will start hiring women they are not attracted to or even avoid hiring women at all by hiring men instead to avoid any possibility of getting into trouble. This could be good news for less attractive/older women and/or men competing for the same jobs as attractive women.

Thoughts?

JD

Hiring an attractive young woman because "you never know, something good might happen with this hot young thing" is really fucking offside.
Any dude that has to hire a hottie because there might potentially be some action down the road (consensual, of course) is a fucking loser.
Get a date however you can. Hiring a "hmmmm, she might be the one at some point..." is an immature and stunted approach. One step short of hiring an escort. Is he hoping she'll turn around one day and say "God- I need you right now- on this desk!" Grow the fuck up, knob.
Work is work. Hire the best candidate. If she's hot, great. Eye candy is nice, too. But keep the commentary, leering and lechery to yourself.

 

[JimDandy]

Hiring an attractive young woman because "you never know, something good might happen with this hot young thing" is really fucking offside.
Any dude that has to hire a hottie because there might potentially be some action down the road (consensual, of course) is a fucking loser.
Get a date however you can. Hiring a "hmmmm, she might be the one at some point..." is an immature and stunted approach. One step short of hiring an escort. Is he hoping she'll turn around one day and say "God- I need you right now- on this desk!" Grow the fuck up, knob.
Work is work. Hire the best candidate. If she's hot, great. Eye candy is nice, too. But keep the commentary, leering and lechery to yourself.

I don't disagree. I have never been in a hiring position so I have never had that temptation either way. Also, it might be subconscious (the "you never know, something good might happen with this hot young thing") on the part of the guy doing the hiring. As T8E stated above "studies concluded that attractive people tend to get jobs easier and they also get higher paid jobs". Why would that be? Unless it is a sales position, being attractive should not be a factor when selecting a job candidate.

JD

 

[nickcan]

Hiring an attractive young woman because "you never know, something good might happen with this hot young thing" is really fucking offside.
Any dude that has to hire a hottie because there might potentially be some action down the road (consensual, of course) is a fucking loser.
Get a date however you can. Hiring a "hmmmm, she might be the one at some point..." is an immature and stunted approach. One step short of hiring an escort. Is he hoping she'll turn around one day and say "God- I need you right now- on this desk!" Grow the fuck up, knob.
Work is work. Hire the best candidate. If she's hot, great. Eye candy is nice, too. But keep the commentary, leering and lechery to yourself.

Yeah, paying to fuck girls you're the real winner. Like you said get a date however you can, stop the preaching.

 

[clu]

Yeah, paying to fuck girls you're the real winner. Like you said get a date however you can, stop the preaching.

Holy fuck. Do you not understand the concept of consent? At least hiring an escort is a transaction entered willingly by both parties with their eyes open.

 

[nickcan]

Holy fuck. Do you not understand the concept of consent? At least hiring an escort is a transaction entered willingly by both parties with their eyes open.

Yes, he said consensual, of course. Don't throw stones when most people see John's as losers.

 

[ddcanz]

Yeah, paying to fuck girls you're the real winner. Like you said get a date however you can, stop the preaching.

WTF? Your point is....?

 

[clu]

Yes, he said consensual, of course. Don't throw stones when most people see John's as losers.

Who said I was a John? Anyway the point is if you hire somebody you're in a position of power so the question of consent is not clear cut. I would argue that anyone expecting a consensual fling with a new hire they just met is living in a fantasy world on multiple fronts. If you want to pay somebody you just met to have sex with you at least do it the "honest" way.

I can't say I regularly agree with ddcanz but I gotta say if you've got a job position to fill it seems like kindergarten stuff to hire based on qualifications. I've hired tonnes of people over the years and I gotta say I have no time for people who can't do the job they're hired for. If you want to hire an office position, hire a professional. If you want to hire someone for sex, ditto.

 

[Jemue]

or even avoid hiring women at all

I've purposefully not hired women to stay away from the the risk of false allegations .... because they don't have to be true, just made, and women know that. After being threatened with it before with the back up of "Well I'm a women, you're a man and if you've read the news lately who the fuck is going to believe you over me?".

Can't deny the logic.

 

[Jemue]

Take the feminist movement, for example. It’s turning into an angry, entitled, rage filled, eye-for an eye revenge fuelled monster. Not every feminist is like that, but there’s far too many these days. So I don’t see any guarantee of balance coming our way.

It turned into that a very long time ago, it's just a thin veil covering for hate and vengeance now. The blow back is going to keep increasing as well, so it's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point. Hate begets hate.

I've thought about being a John, though haven't out of fear that it would be a feminist entrapment ploy.

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

It turned into that a very long time ago, it's just a thin veil covering for hate and vengeance now. The blow back is going to keep increasing as well, so it's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point. Hate begets hate.

I've thought about being a John, though haven't out of fear that it would be a feminist entrapment ploy.

Wow, with that and other statements said.......See the benefits that PC'ness has given us? My god.
The only fear you might have dude and It's one in a million if not more is that it's a sting
setup by the cops. Otherwise it's nothing more than a business transaction hopefully with the
purchaser walking away with a shit eating grin on his face after the deed!






....................QM'r

 

[Jemue]

Wow, with that and other statements said.......See the benefits that PC'ness has given us? My god.
The only fear you might have dude and It's one in a million if not more is that it's a sting
setup by the cops. Otherwise it's nothing more than a business transaction hopefully with the
purchaser walking away with a shit eating grin on his face after the deed!

Have you been to - or are in - Vancouver ? The hatred towards men here is palpable, and that is though all demographics of society in my experience. I've yet to find, talk to, meet or even believe a SP that I didn't think wouldn't be a risk to be or was harbouring some serious malcontent for men. I've lurked here for ages trying to find some proof to the contrary.

 

[ddcanz]

Have you been to - or are in - Vancouver ? The hatred towards men here is palpable, and that is though all demographics of society in my experience. I've yet to find, talk to, meet or even believe a SP that I didn't think wouldn't be a risk to be or was harbouring some serious malcontent for men. I've lurked here for ages trying to find some proof to the contrary.

If you truly believe these, your own words, then fuck off and quit lurking.
SPs are not for you, obviously.
And most of us probably don't give a rat's ass about your rhetoric since you- as you say above in #18- are fearful of being a 'john' and becoming entrapped in a feminist power play.
You also say you purposefully haven't hired women out of fear of false allegations?
That either makes you a sexist fuck or a fearful conspiracy theorist. Maybe even a misogynist.
Did your high school crush turn you down?
Auntie catch you smacking your salamander and embarrass you by telling mommy?
With every demographic of female in Vancouver obviously out to get you, how DO you get through the day?

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Have you been to - or are in - Vancouver ? The hatred towards men here is palpable, and that is though all demographics of society in my experience. I've yet to find, talk to, meet or even believe a SP that I didn't think wouldn't be a risk to be or was harbouring some serious malcontent for men. I've lurked here for ages trying to find some proof to the contrary.

ddcanz, you are not far off the mark with this one bro. If at all.

Ladies.....beware of this psychopathic troll.

Cheers and out!!




.......................QM'r

 

[Aesthetics>all]

I know my boss has not hired females based on looks multiple times. That’s simply based off the thought that if they show up with hair done up, makeup on and freshly done nails then they probably won’t do well in construction