White Supremacists holding a rally in Vancouver this weekend.

[sevenofnine]

my two cents
we should ignore them
anyone have a teenage daughter with a no good boyfriend, and you tell her he is no good, of course she has to defend him or a son defending his friends.
you become confrontational and the other side just digs in. and gets ready for a battle.

ignore it and live your life. and it will go away

a gay couple at work, hate gay pride week, it just throws it in your face everyone gets stressed and angry looking for a fight.
seriously a gay couple at work wishes gay pride week would just go away so they can live their life.

if you turn a corner and you see some hate crime or egregious act, yes you have to deal with it, stand up for your rights as well as the person, being harmed.
but that doesn't mean you go looking for a fight.

I think the biggest problem with trump is, he won't shut is fucking mouth. everyone has to take a stand, everyone is nervous stressed out.
just shut the fuck up go about your life, if you have to deal with something deal with it but don't go looking for one.

you confront them you give them a voice a platform, you turn your back and walk away, they loose there power, my two cents.

 

[sybian]

Every person should be free to live the life they choose....yet not hide behind those very freedoms that were fought and paid for with lives of brave men.....that gave up their own freedom of choice, and place their lives at risk ,by following orders without question.
Hiding behind those hard fought rights, to promote hate ...that were paid for with shortened lives and blood, is deplorable, and dishonours the fallen.

 

[westwoody]

Imagine? Lennon was just a whiny little bitch, imagining peace won't make it happen. His idea of sacrifice was lying in bed.
And Ghandi, you know how he would fare against ISIS or Hitler. He is an outlier and irrelevant.
If you want to be inspired by those two then let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya while they shoot us and toss us into ditches.

Sons of Odin and their ilk will curb stomp you. You can fight them now or fight them later, but yeah, it's going to come to that. Look at the nonsense and anger spewed by a member right here, someone who has clearly has little grasp of the way the world works. There are lots of others like that, the modern economy has passed them by, they have no marketable skills, they will never enjoy the high life most here have. They are angry, they have nothing to lose, and want to lash out at those they blame.

Trump got into power because the latte Liberals didn't take him seriously.
Well kids, if you don't like this neo Nazi crap you better do something about it.

 

[GordonFreeman]

W
Sons of Odin and their ilk will curb stomp you. You can fight them now or fight them later, but yeah, it's going to come to that.

at least soldiers of odin kick pedophiles asses and clean up graffiti . Nobody else in the community is doing that. Yet the keyboard warriors maintain the moral high ground

 

[westwoody]

Yet the keyboard warriors maintain the moral high ground

Only in their own little world. We lead a very sheltered life here. People have no idea, it could go up in flames overnight.

I've seen many of the things Sybian has. Maybe mandatory service would be good, if only so people could see how bad other places are.
So many have no idea of evil, it is just an abstract concept.
Once upon a time Lebanon was like the Riviera. Next thing you know everyone is killing everyone else, even within families.
The veneer of civilisation is very thin.

 

[GordonFreeman]

Only in their own little world. We lead a very sheltered life here. People have no idea, it could go up in flames overnight.

I've seen many of the things Sybian has. Maybe mandatory service would be good, if only so people could see how bad other places are.
So many have no idea of evil, it is just an abstract concept.
Once upon a time Lebanon was like the Riviera. Next thing you know everyone is killing everyone else, even within families.
The veneer of civilisation is very thin.

Even Iran. Before it was the axis of evil, It was a champion of woman's rights and education. Now it's a shithole

 

[GordonFreeman]

Exactly what pedophile asses are the soldiers/dogs of Odin kicking? And if they are do you really believe we need vigilante justice? And by the way, graffiti can be an art. What gives those moronic neo-nazis the right to decide?

Ok bud, if you think surrey's graffiti is "art"... have at 'er
And canada is a country where the age of consent is an appropriate age. When you bring in immigrants where there is not legal recourse for sexual assault and age of consent of 12 (mexico for example) then it's a matter of time before problems surface. I'm not for vigilante justice, but i'm also not for doing nothing.

 

[LalaniElectrica]

PT 2/2


History has proven the only way to quell them is through force. These people are like mice. Ever have a mice problem? At first, one or two comes out at night for a few weeks to get the lay of the land. Then, after they get more comfortable, they start to scope your place out earlier and earlier. Eventually, you have dozens of them running around freely because they know there will be no consequences. I give you White supremacists in 2k17. Being moral and taking the high ground is no defense against White supremacists who conduct group beatings, burn down mosques, terrorist attacks, etc.



So, owning a home is a childish pipe dream but cordial dialogue with white supremacists is a winnable strategy? Got it. Also, you aren't too familiar with MLK or Gandhi, are you?

Excellent post. All of it.

For those of you choosing to stay home, please know that is your privileged to have that choice. In all likliness, these shitstains won't hurt you because you're white and/or look Christian, which to them, is white. There's lots of good folk on here who do not have the privilege. If you love your city/country/democracy, you should turn up at the very least to let those losers know they aren't welcome.

I urge all of you to consider the Paradox of Tolerance:

Thx, I have no privilege, never have and never will. I worked hard for every single thing, and face racism and discrimination all my life, from both sides, white and black, anyone who assumes by looking at me that I grew up being used to white privilege does not really know me...

There's no need to these protests which are just an excuse for escalating violence, they risk everyone's safety & security and going there isn't going to solve anything whatsoever. If I went there I'd be a total hypocrite and supporting the cause by simply being there... If I went there there also could be violence on any side at any time if they set me off, I can get way too aggressive in a huge crowd like that and I will defend myself so it's not a good scene for me to be there... I listened to both sides and it does not sit well with me either side is completely over the top and I disagree with both sides from what has been done over the last year or 2 in North America. I do not need to risk my liberty cause someone called me something or another... There's no telling where the aggression will come from this day and age, and I have never been a fan of these protests, although when I was a teenager we were the first group of students to ever form a protest in Canada and we organized it in the entire city of Toronto back in the day. It was peaceful and we got results so that was a positive thing. It involved all races, religions, ages and genders... not some Race-Dominated standoff...Imo they need to have military involvement or something. It's up to the government to catch people associated with spreading hate speech so let's let the RCMP do their job, they have the facilities, training and they get paid by the hour to deal with these people who spread this rhetoric. That's why we have Law Enforcement and the Military. Hopefully they will be present and fully really to act in an emergency situation.

Yes 7of9, don't feed the beast...

 

[sybian]

at least soldiers of odin kick pedophiles asses and clean up graffiti . Nobody else in the community is doing that. Yet the keyboard warriors maintain the moral high ground

Son........you don't know that about anyone here....You also don't know me or my past, so I'll forgive that comment.
I've fought in real wars, and silenced people forever that killed women and children....I have looked into the darkness of pure evil, and surfaced to tell the story.
I gave up the luxury of having morals, so you can type whatever you want on your keyboard.
Go fight for the basic human rights for everyone in this country.....Then come back here and judge our community.
The Sons of Odin are not what you think they are.....they simply abuse the freedom they have taken for granted,...look into the eyes of a soldier that has come from a REAL battle, with real meaning and cause.
You will find in those cold grey eyes an understanding of sacrifice, compassion and morality...

 

[GordonFreeman]

Son........you don't know that about anyone here....You also don't know me or my past, so I'll forgive that comment.
I've fought in real wars, and silenced people forever that killed women and children....I have looked into the darkness of pure evil, and surfaced to tell the story.
I gave up the luxury of having morals, so you can type whatever you want on your keyboard.
Go fight for the basic human rights for everyone in this country.....Then come back here and judge our community.
The Sons of Odin are not what you think they are.....they simply abuse the freedom they have taken for granted,...look into the eyes of a soldier that has come from a REAL battle, with real meaning and cause.
You will find in those cold grey eyes an understanding of sacrifice, compassion and morality...

I don't know you at all and am talking about the community at large. Not you. If you've served in the military, then thank you for saving us from foreign threats. But we need heros domestically too, and when the bad guys think they have the upper hand at home, it's up to private citizens to step up a bit. All soldiers of odin are are people with western values in leather jackets. Anyone can join. they don't give a shit about race

 

[GordonFreeman]

Well perhaps you could expound a bit on the values of the Soldiers of Odin, because, really, I have no idea what "western values" are. And what bad guys are you worried about that may get the upper hand here at home that we need the Odin boys to protect us? Aren't the police and military sufficient?

Western values are your values. Private property, Equality between genders, basic human rights like clean water and the safety to walk outside past dark, GOING TO SEE ECORTS LEGALLY. None of this is present in most of the third world, and it isn't because they government doesn't have the capacity to do it. So quit bitching about the soldiers of odin who are .00001% of the population.
The canadian penal system (and this is especially true in europe) is more concerned about being culturally insensitive than they are about enforcing the law. Sharia law is making inroads here (notice the foot bathing stations in some universities?) and nobody gives 2 shits about it until it's in their own backyard.

I think you live in a cosmopolitan bubble so your mind is made up already

 

[Hugh Jass]

Like all this over a "rally" that according to the Province newspaper 18 people are going to attend? White supremacists are a fringe group, have been for decades and things are not likely to change. Giving them publicity is what they want and what a counter demonstration will produce as demonstrated in Virginia Its a great recruiting tool.

However these guys IMHO are just as if not far more dangerous ...they have funding and are extremely well organized unlike the far right.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3675929/what-is-antifa-far-left-group/

If there is a danger to free speech down the road its going to come from them. So a decade from now neonazis have disappeared underground. This group is NOT going to go away. Its violent and will find new targets .

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Western values are your values. Private property, Equality between genders, basic human rights like clean water and the safety to walk outside past dark, GOING TO SEE ECORTS LEGALLY. None of this is present in most of the third world, and it isn't because they government doesn't have the capacity to do it. So quit bitching about the soldiers of odin who are .00001% of the population.
The canadian penal system (and this is especially true in europe) is more concerned about being culturally insensitive than they are about enforcing the law. Sharia law is making inroads here (notice the foot bathing stations in some universities?) and nobody gives 2 shits about it until it's in their own backyard.

I think you live in a cosmopolitan bubble so your mind is made up already

I think you're deluded if you think the Soldiers of Odin is a harmless group that doesn't care about race. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_of_Odin

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Son........you don't know that about anyone here....You also don't know me or my past, so I'll forgive that comment.
I've fought in real wars, and silenced people forever that killed women and children....I have looked into the darkness of pure evil, and surfaced to tell the story.
I gave up the luxury of having morals, so you can type whatever you want on your keyboard.
Go fight for the basic human rights for everyone in this country.....Then come back here and judge our community.
The Sons of Odin are not what you think they are.....they simply abuse the freedom they have taken for granted,...look into the eyes of a soldier that has come from a REAL battle, with real meaning and cause.
You will find in those cold grey eyes an understanding of sacrifice, compassion and morality...

Go tell it on the mountain, sy...

 

[GordonFreeman]

I think you're deluded if you think the Soldiers of Odin is a harmless group that doesn't care about race. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_of_Odin

Hillary Clinton said former KKK member Robert Byrd was a " lifelong mentor"
Is she a racist?
She's never distanced herself from the quote or been asked to

 

[Cock Throppled]

PT 2/2


History has proven the only way to quell them is through force. These people are like mice. Ever have a mice problem? At first, one or two comes out at night for a few weeks to get the lay of the land. Then, after they get more comfortable, they start to scope your place out earlier and earlier. Eventually, you have dozens of them running around freely because they know there will be no consequences. I give you White supremacists in 2k17. Being moral and taking the high ground is no defense against White supremacists who conduct group beatings, burn down mosques, terrorist attacks, etc.



So, owning a home is a childish pipe dream but cordial dialogue with white supremacists is a winnable strategy? Got it. Also, you aren't too familiar with MLK or Gandhi, are you?

Excellent post. All of it.

For those of you choosing to stay home, please know that is your privileged to have that choice. In all likliness, these shitstains won't hurt you because you're white and/or look Christian, which to them, is white. There's lots of good folk on here who do not have the privilege. If you love your city/country/democracy, you should turn up at the very least to let those losers know they aren't welcome.

I urge all of you to consider the Paradox of Tolerance:

Bullshit. It's well-known that these confrontations are used as recruitment tools for racist groups.

They receive way more publicity than their miniscule numbers should dictate, simply because they garner so much publicity with every violent confrontaion.

You're just spoiling for a fight, and think that going down to goad them and throw punches will make you feel superior.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Hillary Clinton said former KKK member Robert Byrd was a " lifelong mentor"
Is she a racist?
She's never distanced herself from the quote or been asked to

Please don't assume that because she & I share the same type of genitalia (presumably) that I think Hilary Clinton is the Second Coming...The first presidential campaign she ever worked on was Barry Goldwater's, & he was then in favour of repealing segregation. It doesn't change the fact that the Soldiers of Odin are not just hail fellows well met in matching jaunty leather jackets. They are a vocal & militant anti-immigrant organization.

 

[GordonFreeman]

Please don't assume that because she & I share the same type of genitalia (presumably) that I think Hilary Clinton is the Second Coming...The first presidential campaign she ever worked on was Barry Goldwater's, & he was then in favour of repealing segregation. It doesn't change the fact that the Soldiers of Odin are not just hail fellows well met in matching jaunty leather jackets. They are a vocal & militant anti-immigrant organization.

that wasn't the assumption, i used her as an example because she nearly became one of the most power people in the world and is considered by the mainstream as a good alternative to "racist trump" A man who's daughter converted to Orthodox Jew. Not an advertisement for trump, i think he's a douche.
Meanwhile %20 of Hillary's funding comes from the Saudi arabia. A place where women have half the rights of men, and gay people are executed.

Wikipedia isn't a source. It's open source so anyone can just type the words "racist" in there when the Solider of Odin's primary concern is culture. ie: the values their country was founded on.
Finland is a country that has shed a lot a blood to preserve their borders. So i think its fair that they have a say on who get citizenship instead of the European parliament deciding in Brussels

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Finland is a country that has shed a lot a blood to preserve their borders. So i think its fair that they have a say on who get citizenship instead of the European parliament deciding in Brussels

And so why exactly do we need their organization in Canada?

 

[GordonFreeman]

And so why exactly do we need their organization in Canada?

I don't think we absolutely need it. But if you look at the effects of multiculturalism the trend is not good.
Canada's immigration system has been very good until recently.
I'm in a young enough age bracket to observe white people quickly becoming the minority in public high schools.
With very little in common culturally, and no ability to the speak the same native language. High school is becoming a hostile place.
I can't count how many times i've sat in class listening to languages i can't for the life of me understand.

I love Sikhs, I love koreans, I love Spanish culture, but I love Canada.
I don't want our apartment buildings to be empty because China has bought the building, I don't want our schools segregated like they are now (look at a cafeteria in high school, split down the middle between races not unlike prisons) I don't think anyone wants more Somalia immigrants killing 40 people in one year.

All i have is a vote. I voted against justin trudeau, and will vote against him again. But in the mean time, i think it's well within peoples right to protest if they want to. Soldiers of odin are in effect just big brother's in an age where people are lost in their own society.

For the record, i don't support racism, my friendship and dating history is proof, and just want people to adopt western values if they decide to live in the west.