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When did the escorting business become more popular?
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C'mon man you gotta be kidding me. Have you ever been to UBC or SFU? Does it look like there's an underground prostitution ring there? Whatever happened to common sense?
Undoubtedly some girls have it in their best interest to make a few bucks, but you'll see shit like that on SA or similar services, where sometimes they don't even need to do the deed at all.
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Re: Hookers on Davie. Notice how "healthy" they appear compared to their peers in the DTES? Modern drugs ravage the human so much faster now.
Re: Hookers on Davie. Notice how "healthy" they appear compared to their peers in the DTES? Modern drugs ravage the human so much faster now.
That's why I wouldn't dream of picking up a streetwalker today, but had no problem picking up a streetwalker on Davie, Seymour, Richards or Kingsway back in the day. Survival Sex shortens a person's life. The main character in the video is a guy in drag. But most of the streetwalkers I picked up on Davie were sweeties and usually good fun worth what I spent on them. A lot of them were office workers during the day, a couple let me know where they worked. That's where I initially got into the "feed them and fuck them" habit. I'd pick them up at work, feed them and then take them to my place or their place.
The survival sex streetwalkers on Hastings have always been too risky for me. I used to know this beautiful Italian woman that was hooked on heroin. It took about 5 years before she could only find customers on Hastings. I don't think that she lived to be 30. There was an article/documentary that interviewed her after she became HIV+ the only way she could find a customer is to service him bareback. Guys that want bareback are idiots. The only reason that an SP is doing bareback is that she can't catch something she already has.
I have no clue about any of that. Although HIV meds, and probably healthcare in general for survival SWs, are vastly superior to what they were decades ago. Quite a number of organizations are involved in helping them.
Last year i noticed the Main St police station boarded up, a Waves coffee shop across the street on the corner, Balmoral bar closed, yet the "candy ladies" still making their rounds.
AFAIK i never caught a single STI from DTES action, even with a decade of very frequent hobbying, relatively unsafe sex practices and condom failures. BTW all my recent STI tests returned negative.
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I believe you. BTW, did you know I'm 6 foot 6, have a v shaped torso and a 9 inch cock that's as thick as a pop can? It's true because I wrote it on the internet. And you may well have caught something, not every STI has symptoms. Sorry Lenny but you sound like some 90 year old woman who smoked 65 years and never got cancer who says "see, I'm as healthy as a horse". High risk sex practices are just plain stupid.
As for HIV meds, well they're expensive and usually covered by a medical plan something most SP's do not have. And those HIV meds require you live a healthy lifestyle something not conducive to survival sex workers. Modern chemistry creating modern drugs is the reason women go from healthy to skin and bones so quickly. The clutch of drugs is just fucking nasty...nasty enough to make a desperate woman get in a car and fuck a pig farm who stunk like shit for $40 dollars. As a species we excel and developing self destructive products.
Definitely technology. You read a comic book like Paying for It, Chester Brown makes it look like you look in the paper for ads and use TER when it first started, in like 1999. Now if you want to hook up with a girl, there are so many apps to use. So it would be the same for getting clients. Its as easy as getting a doctor's appointment, even easier. You call or text, get some info, make an appointment. You get sex. Its that easy. Maybe a bit of screening, but its definitely a lot less stressful than going bar or club hopping and hoping to pick up a chick at 2am. And with sites like perb, you can share information and not have it in the dark, and avoid bad people. If I didn't have perb, I would never have started pooning.
Don't believe me. The forums' testimony of all those saying what i do is more compelling, added to the absence of a single witness to the contrary.
Re "High risk sex practices are just plain stupid", many if not the vast majority of people consider seeing sex workers to be exactly that. If you asked 10 people what they think is "high risk", you might get 10 different answers. It's in the eye of the beholder, it's relative & a subject that is not allowed to be discussed (e.g. rule #10) here in any detail, although plenty of old threads have already done that.
In a poll i saw here upwards of 20% had been entertained by street walking SP's.
As for HIV meds being expensive and "usually covered by a medical plan something most SP's do not have", they were free in BC going back to at least 2006 & until at least recently. I haven't read anything saying that has changed:
http://www.macleans.ca/education/uniandcollege/doctors-call-for-free-hiv-drugs/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...press-hiv-one-pill-at-a-time/article25518287/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...tegy-gains-ground-on-hivaids/article22974156/
https://thetyee.ca/News/2006/05/08/FractionTreatmentEastside/
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-...treatment-centre-opening-in-downtown-eastside
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/plan-to-reduce-downtown-eastside-hiv-rate-1.324951
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-effective-than-war-on-drugs-in-b-c-1.1326963
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...for-chronic-heroin-addiction/article29537912/
http://www.straight.com/blogra/770691/homeless-vancouver-fentanyl-overdoses-are-just-beginning
IMO the above articles present more balanced info and views than those you are pushing.
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"What you need to understand is that cruising the stroll is more about risk and thrill seeking than it is actual sex."
The "risk and thrill" is one motive for seeking out street walkers, though i have to question how many find it more important than the sex.
Many other motives could draw guys to the street scene, some of which are:
1. Low prices.
2. What you see is what you get. Seeing the SP in person, rather than a fake online pic.
3. No ID verification required.
4. Postpayment often available.
5. When the SW is with me, she's avoiding a serial killer.
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Warl0ck
If you watch a scene in Breaking Bad, Walt and his wife are fucking in the car and she asks why it was so good. He replies "because it's illegal". Cruising IS very anonymous and that plays a part, but the thrill factor = a major play. It's easy to imagine she's not an SW and you're just picking up a woman, banging her and dropping her off. It's about as carnal as it gets. It can be cheap but it can also be expensive though many "high tracks" are no longer in existence. People tend to follow patterns and cruising is very often about high risk & the thrill of the act.
LOL, send me a pic & I'll canvas the girls in the DTES & Surrey Dead Zone to see if they recognize you. Are you under Lenny in the PROS database?
I don't doubt that "thrills" or excitement is a reason for some clients to see ladies of the street, just as it is in hobbies like parachuting and bungee jumping. For others, apart from being heavily intoxicated, just the thought of venturing into the DTES might bring about the opposite feelings. They may view the thrill as the sex & the experience of everything else in that area mostly comprised of necessary evils in order to attain the prize.
"It's easy to imagine she's not an SW and you're just picking up a woman, banging her and dropping her off."
Sometimes there have been more amateurish ladies of the day or night who almost fit that description, who only do it part time or on occasions that call for some quick easy cash, for any number of reasons, not necessarily illicit drugs. Even those SWs who use drugs may be anywhere in the range from recreational to moderate users to hard core addicts.
Further to the topic of HIV, in the DTES about 10 years ago some SWs there were informing me re which gals had HIV. They based this on who they saw going into a HIV clinic. As difficult as it is for some drug users to get anything done, one managed to obtain a copy of her recent HIV negative test result.
Re point 5 (post #31), I suppose my point was that in choosing between SP's to give business to, some people might take into consideration who are the most poor or needy. Something like that.
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Technology has revolutionized dating for the to 10% of the dating pool, made it more difficult for the bottom 90%. Especially by the time you're in your 30's+, unless you're in the top percentile of single people, you will probably not date much.
Also, in western Canada, the resource boom has created massive numbers of single men with 6 figure salaries, and many of them are divorced or single from working on the road all the time. Perfect profile for a man who pays for sex.
Women still adhere to hypergamy and want a man who will elevate their social status and net worth. Men are slowly wising up and are scared of losing it all to an unplanned pregnancy or a divorce.
The surging popularity of escorts is just another signal that we are on the verge of societal collapse.
When you meet someone off tinder or the internet, there is no accountability to your friends and family when you dump that person and move on. When you meet someone through family or your circle of friends, you can't just break up and never see them again. You have to deal with people taking sides because that person was actually a part of the community in your life. The people I know who are happily married mostly met through family/friends or in college. Meeting people online just encourages serial monogamy. You get to know the person and after the 3 month euphoric period subsides you come to realize that they're 80% flaws, and you'd rather be single and get it on perb than risk losing everything with this woman. A wise man once told me to if at all possible avoid having relationships with women. So many major problems in a man's life stem from his woman, and it all happens when he lets his guard down for a split second. If you're old enough to have accumulated a high net worth, watch your friends get crucified in family court, and see your other friend's wives cut their hair and get fat 2 years after marriage... well why would you volunteer to go down that road yourself?
