Finding Sugar Babies on Seeking Arrangement

[sdw]

Furthermore, do you guys meet with the sugarbaby over coffee first before setting up the first "date," just to make sure they look like their pics? and there is chemistry?

I'm not sure I want to cave in for a $500 date, but compared to multi-hour SP encounters it might be good value. All depends on the sugarbaby.

There are a fair number of working SPs on Seeking Arrangement. That's why I only "Favorite" and respond to messages from newly joined ladies. It's actually against the site's terms of use for a SB to require money before the potential SD has met with her. If she's put the requirement in a message, just click the cog on her profile page and click report. It's also against the site's term of use for the SD to message with an amount of money or an sex act.

The newly joined ladies will not know this, so when you remind them - you'll easily be able to set up a coffee date/interview, where you can see if they match their picture and talk about money and your desires.

If she offers to talk to you by email - she's a returning lady and probably is an SP.

Seeking Arrangement, ban items. On any profile, click cog, click Report Member, drop down list under Report Reason

Inappropriate profile content
Soliciting sex in exchange for compensation
Inappropriate photo
Underage
Scammer/phishing attempt
Threats from a member
Using the site to promote a business
Using Escort terminology
Known Escort
Spammer
Nudity
Sexually explicit messages
Picture not of the person
Not following through with an arrangement
Asking for money upfront (before meeting in person)
Physical Assault
Theft

So, you need to be aware of the rules of the site, because for guys a ban is the loss of at least $107 and possibly more if you signed up for multiple months. For ladies a ban costs nothing if she's using a basic membership or college membership. She just can't use that email again and has to rename her photos. http://blog.seekingarrangement.com/2014/11/04/standard-premium-diamond-membership-whats-difference/

I have "I'm looking for an arrangement with a woman in the Lower Mainland, BC, Canada. I'm not interested in a platonic arrangement." So, a potential SB knows how old I am, what I look like and what I want. If she messages me, she's at least willing to think about it for the right arrangement.

The women that are spamming every new SD ignore that. If they send multiple messages - well there is the block member button.

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

I'm sure this has been mentioned but what about discretion. How do you pay, by credit card? Paypal perhaps??? And what if you don't want your picture shown that can't help you, but again back to the discretion question.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I'm sure this has been mentioned but what about discretion. How do you pay, by credit card? Paypal perhaps??? And what if you don't want your picture shown that can't help you, but again back to the discretion question.

You can pay by credit card but on your bill it will be some nondescript company they tell you the name of when you make the payment.

There are public photos and private ones. You dont have to have public photos and release the private ones only to those you feel comfortable with when they request to see them. Someone looking at your profile cannot see your private pictures without your permission.

 

[sdw]

Thanks this is very helpful info. I've been on the site for two days, and I'm already meeting someone next week to see if we're a match.

I've usually found negotiating price with escorts is just bad form and results in a lacklustre performance even if they do agree to a lower price. Do you guys find that negotiating a date price with a SB has the same effect? If she says she would be happy with $500 for a date, and I counter with $400, does that just sour the date even if she accepts.

The Sugar Baby will have chosen a "Lifestyle". I'd start there.

Seeking Arrangement "Lifestyle" choices
Negotiable - I don't have a set expectation (reality is she indicates what is needed for an arrangement based on your age, appearance and if she likes you)
Minimal - Up to $1000 monthly
Practical - Up to $3000 monthly
Moderate - Up to $5000 monthly
Substantial - Up to $10000 monthly
High - More than $10000 monthly

If you divide by 4 you can guess the weekly amount the SB needs. Even if you want to spend less, she's likely to refuse less than her asked for Lifestyle. Remember, you can't say I'll pay you $750 to spend the night with me - but you can say that I am willing to give you your requested Lifestyle.

You should also fill out the Lifestyle in your profile - but, then it indicates what you are willing to spend monthly.

 

[sdw]

I'm sure this has been mentioned but what about discretion. How do you pay, by credit card? Paypal perhaps??? And what if you don't want your picture shown that can't help you, but again back to the discretion question.

SA uses a payment processing company called 2BuySafe, that's what appears on your bill. You can use just about any of the payment options.

On pictures. You can put a hard to see the face picture as your public picture and then a number of good photos as private pictures. That way if you think the SB is serious or interesting, you can grant her access to your private pictures.

 

[thetruth]

I have found you can get a pay per meet rate anywhere from $200-400 even when they have a lifestyle choice of substantial to high. Just negotiate and get everything in the open.

 

[deathreborn]

ya i just negotiated with the messaging thing. guess we broke the rules cuz we were talking about sex and price. $300 seemed to be the starting number. got a couple more average looking women into the $200's. no point in meeting to see if your compatible if the price isn't already agreed upon.

 

[sdw]

ya i just negotiated with the messaging thing. guess we broke the rules cuz we were talking about sex and price. $300 seemed to be the starting number. got a couple more average looking women into the $200's. no point in meeting to see if your compatible if the price isn't already agreed upon.

If she's unhappy, she can easily hit the report button. If she was actively negotiating, then she'd be also reporting herself. I make it clear that I know and follow the rules. That way she has to decide if she's willing to bed me and meet me for coffee where we firm up what I get for what I give her. Too many SBs get you to her place and aren't what you thought, aren't willing at the price agreed in messaging.

Usually, the potential SB isn't going to give up the bird in hand when she meets for coffee.

 

[SInCity67]

The Sugar Baby will have chosen a "Lifestyle". I'd start there.

Seeking Arrangement "Lifestyle" choices
Negotiable - I don't have a set expectation (reality is she indicates what is needed for an arrangement based on your age, appearance and if she likes you)
Minimal - Up to $1000 monthly
Practical - Up to $3000 monthly
Moderate - Up to $5000 monthly
Substantial - Up to $10000 monthly
High - More than $10000 monthly

If you divide by 4 you can guess the weekly amount the SB needs. Even if you want to spend less, she's likely to refuse less than her asked for Lifestyle. Remember, you can't say I'll pay you $750 to spend the night with me - but you can say that I am willing to give you your requested Lifestyle.

You should also fill out the Lifestyle in your profile - but, then it indicates what you are willing to spend monthly.

These girls are just dreaming some guy will pay them for those prices . All girls are p4p on the site I wouldn't offer more than $500 per date as $300 per date is the going rate atm with a lot of these girls . I just saw a new blonde who just turned 19 this week and her profile settings was high and she was going with the classy profile angle and her pics were in a nice dress .Five minutes snapchatting with her I got a good price for p4p. Though for sure she would went the monthly allowance shit with me or I'm too classy to just fuck , take me out for dinner and shopping first .

 

[mower]

the month i joined they had a sale. it was $59.99US. not renewing until there's another sale.

They usually have a sale on their one month membership if your membership lapsed and you haven't renewed. I know that mine shows 53.33 USD for 1 month, 69.95 USD/month for 3 months, or 59.95 USD for 6 months right now

 

[mower]

Do you ever set up the coffee meet so that, contingent on everything checking out, the date can start immediately after? Or is it assumed that you'll meet for coffee, think it over, and then set up a date on a different day, if everyone agrees.

One lady proposed drinks and if within 15 minutes we aren't feeling it, I can walk, no hard feelings. Otherwise, I pay for the date.

Problem is she suggests no physical intimacy for the first few $500 dates, and then lists all her sexual rules, using escort terms. So not interested.

Most girls that are new (non-pros) will actually suggest meeting for coffee or somewhere public first.

I know that some guys don't like that, because you just want to get things started, but I don't mind it at all. It allows the both of you to build up a little bit of a rapport and trust before taking the next step, which will definitely help ease the nervousness that some of these first time SBs have.

 

[sdw]

These girls are just dreaming some guy will pay them for those prices . All girls are p4p on the site I wouldn't offer more than $500 per date as $300 per date is the going rate atm with a lot of these girls . I just saw a new blonde who just turned 19 this week and her profile settings was high and she was going with the classy profile angle and her pics were in a nice dress .Five minutes snapchatting with her I got a good price for p4p. Though for sure she would went the monthly allowance shit with me or I'm too classy to just fuck , take me out for dinner and shopping first .

I'm making a bet you are younger than me. I'm old. It costs more and is harder to get the lady to consider bedding you when you are old. There are a number of SPs here that won't see men my age. Then there are the SPs that think that they are willing to see me, until they look through their door's peephole and the SPs that have to see me for economic or other reasons and just want to get me out of the door with as little interaction as possible.

You are probably also only paying for an hour. A hour doesn't work for me. I like to book at least 2 hours and prefer to book for a longer time.

That's the reason that SA works for me. Since I never begin the messaging, the SB has looked at my profile and knows how old I am and what I look like. She's at least considered bedding me or she wouldn't have messaged me. When we meet for coffee, I get to assess if her pictures are honest and if she is really willing to bed me. If she says "no way", I walk without it costing me a dime. If she prices herself out of consideration, I walk away without it costing me a dime. If I feel that she's forcing herself and that it will feel, to me, like I'm raping her - I give her some money for her time and walk away.

90% of the time, the SB beds me and takes the money. That's actually better than I was having seeing SPs.

 

[High Roller]

I'm making a bet you are younger than me. I'm old. It costs more and is harder to get the lady to consider bedding you when you are old. There are a number of SPs here that won't see men my age. Then there are the SPs that think that they are willing to see me, until they look through their door's peephole and the SPs that have to see me for economic or other reasons and just want to get me out of the door with as little interaction as possible.

You are probably also only paying for an hour. A hour doesn't work for me. I like to book at least 2 hours and prefer to book for a longer time.

That's the reason that SA works for me. Since I never begin the messaging, the SB has looked at my profile and knows how old I am and what I look like. She's at least considered bedding me or she wouldn't have messaged me. When we meet for coffee, I get to assess if her pictures are honest and if she is really willing to bed me. If she says "no way", I walk without it costing me a dime. If she prices herself out of consideration, I walk away without it costing me a dime. If I feel that she's forcing herself and that it will feel, to me, like I'm raping her - I give her some money for her time and walk away.

90% of the time, the SB beds me and takes the money. That's actually better than I was having seeing SPs.

I'm also getting on, so I'm not going to look forward to how they really, really see me.

But, yes, an arrangement can be the way to go. They know what they're getting into, they want their money and gifts, so they're happy with the arrangement - just don't depend on them if you ever fall on hard times.

 

[hankmoody]

I would be very careful about posting face pics. Don't you remember Ashley Madison? There is no such thing as private on the internet.
I post a body shot from the nose down.
And don't discuss "details" beyond physical and not platonic. Until we message for a bit. Then if there's potential, shoot her my pooner phone or email. Or ask for hers. Then get into details and swap pics. I still don't give a full face shot. Just topless so she can see i'm real and in shape. Offer to meet in a public place, if you don't like me or my face your free to walk at anytime. No one's walked yet.
Usually offer to take her out for a nice meal. If there is some chemistry then a couple hundred to continue the date. I screen quite a bit so haven't left yet.
First dates usually are a feeling out process and just end with fun. Repeats can often begin with fun, then dinner etc and back for more fun.
As they say, each to their own. Ymmv

 

[sevenofnine]

watched a show on national geographic, lisa ling living the live on the wild side I believe,
sugar babies and sugar daddies.

I believe, its a relatively new thing, sugar babies in terms of it being so popular now days, I suppose there was always kept women. but now its out there.
and gaining in popularity.

I think its our society, we don't want to call a hooker a hooker or a prostitute or a john a john,
so we call them sugar babies and daddies, they showed a clip from doctor phil he asked them are they prostitutes and they yelled no, and the view, same thing, they don't think there prostitutes
maybe it has a lot to do, with some guys have a lot of disposable income, so they can afford to pay by the month, instead of the hour,

like a lady, who has half and hour sessions and fifteen minute sessions insists don't call me a prostitute im not a prostitute im a companion. yeah right.

like someone said a long time ago, don't pay a hooker money and see what happens.
whether its a fifteen minute session or you gave her a 8 thousand dollar monthly allowance

its funny but wait a few years, and we all figure it out that a sugar baby is a hooker, the name will change again.

like I said I believe its more about the wealth we have, and the need for wealth, then anything,

 

[SInCity67]

How many hours (average) would a $300-400 date last? If it just includes an hour of sex, that is toward the higher end of SP rates, but if that is multi-hour, it's good.

I'm interested in having a few SOG and hanging out a bit in between.

You guys need to stop thinking about hours . You have to game them regularly . The more they like you , the longer they will hang out with you and bug you to see you again . Get snapchat , these girls will be sending you nudes all day . I put 5 minutes a day , to text them . All I do is text them , how was your day? . Can't wait to meet you . ect ... That's it , I'll tell them I'm really busy with work if they bug me too much . If you're lazy , expect high prices , condoms ect .. But if you put time in it , most of these girls want a boyfriend who just pays them . Indy fox , I meet her before she was a foxden girl on SA and trust me , the price I paid and hours of time spent talking and having our play date was a massive ROI for me . I'm talking about a difference of $2000 (foxden rate) to $100 for a night .

 

[SInCity67]

watched a show on national geographic, lisa ling living the live on the wild side I believe,
sugar babies and sugar daddies.

I believe, its a relatively new thing, sugar babies in terms of it being so popular now days, I suppose there was always kept women. but now its out there.
and gaining in popularity.

I think its our society, we don't want to call a hooker a hooker or a prostitute or a john a john,
so we call them sugar babies and daddies, they showed a clip from doctor phil he asked them are they prostitutes and they yelled no, and the view, same thing, they don't think there prostitutes
maybe it has a lot to do, with some guys have a lot of disposable income, so they can afford to pay by the month, instead of the hour,

like a lady, who has half and hour sessions and fifteen minute sessions insists don't call me a prostitute im not a prostitute im a companion. yeah right.

like someone said a long time ago, don't pay a hooker money and see what happens.
whether its a fifteen minute session or you gave her a 8 thousand dollar monthly allowance

its funny but wait a few years, and we all figure it out that a sugar baby is a hooker, the name will change again.

like I said I believe its more about the wealth we have, and the need for wealth, then anything,

Almost all the new girls know what the game is now . I was even talking about it to this new girl . She's been on the site for about three weeks and she was like well this is like a transection and her friend got her into the site since she made $2000 for a weekend trip to Whistler ect . The smart ones are the girls who say they don't have sex unless they have chemistry . That's code for , unless you're wealthy and spend loads of money on me , you ain't getting shit .

 

[Sucre]

wide range of asking prices. Usually meet for cofee and if chemistry discuss pricing and terms and if agree proceed

- but the Japanese girls currently on the site are clearly from a group or agency - to extent i would call them semi pro organization that preps them in advance of what to ask
I have had at least 6 different one contact me over several months and when I responded, they all ask minimum of $800 per date and $5000 per month and when i say too much, that i pass without insults, they all insult me - odd. In fact i have talked with many girls and we not always agree on price or terms but it is only the Japanese girls that throw the insults.

I have has SB of all nationalities, East Asian, South Asian, Middle eastern, African and Caucasian, and all were nice and worth the effort. For example, I had 3 different Japanese Sb. and yes the Japanese I saw were the kinkiest and the best. Two were happy with $250 per meeting and the third wanted $300, but she was also wanting to see me almost every day for 4 to 7 hours a visit, provided she was so nice that to make sure i would agree to see her, often, she would only charge at most 2 times a week, any visits after 2 were free. When talking about others - non Japanese, in past i had girls wanting to see me once a month (at last day of month) for the cost of a bus pass. Another I saw twice a week for a year at $200 per time, and after 6 months she was so worried I would run out of money, she offered to reduce the fee as long as i would continue to see her. She always spent at least 6 hours and it was always me saying she had to leave. I refused to reduce the fee lol. That was a few years ago and we are still good friends. Another (age 19 and Caucasian) I met for coffee was so anxious that she came back to my place before discussing terms. I assumed she too shy to discuss in public and we would once at my place. As we walked in the door, she grabbed my privates and rubbed herself hard against me, so it was straight to the bedroom. After as she was leaving, I asked what she wanted. She appeared surprised that i was to give her money. I insisted so she asked for $100. I gave $150. After that she called me at least once a week for sex, for several months. So a wide variety of pricing and expectations from SB. The most i had paid was $500, (she was hot and a one off) but average (the mean) was $250 and to get that had to agree to regular meetings often 2 times a week. One off or once a week girls generally needed more, like $300.

But yes prices have gone up, starting 2016. Most new girls were referred to site by friends or friends of friends so have more of a minimum pricing. No one since 2016 would accept less than $300, even on a regular once a week basis, but rents have gone way up so its a fair price. And yes there are enough still willing to take $300 per visit, if you promise regular (that what SB are about, they are not escorts and need a regular money to supplement their income and they do not want to sleep with a new guy every week. If one off or overnight expect to now pay /offer $400 to $500.

 

[sdw]

wide range of asking prices. Usually meet for cofee and if chemistry discuss pricing and terms and if agree proceed

- but the Japanese girls currently on the site are clearly from a group or agency - to extent i would call them semi pro organization that preps them in advance of what to ask
I have had at least 6 different one contact me over several months and when I responded, they all ask minimum of $800 per date and $5000 per month and when i say too much, that i pass without insults, they all insult me - odd. In fact i have talked with many girls and we not always agree on price or terms but it is only the Japanese girls that throw the insults.

Probably the same Japanese women that kept messaging me. Wouldn't take no for an answer, wouldn't see me for less than $800 for an hour, wouldn't stop messaging me with a new Price/Service adjustment. I finally blocked them.

A lot of the new girls have had a friend recommend the site and even do their profile - complete with pictures that TinEye and Google Image quickly find. So, SA is becoming a straight SP site for men that think they are getting a low volume SP. The more pictures in the profile, the more likely she is an SP.

 

[SInCity67]

I'm connected with an SB on SA who is also on CuddleUp. I asked her about it, and explained she charges $250/hour to cuddle naked, no sex. She's a young hottie, but c'mon! I'm wondering what the full date price is gonna run.

Quickly looking at that site I see ReneePhillips and bellastella . These hoes should just go on leolist.