Finding Sugar Babies on Seeking Arrangement

[sdw]

wide range of asking prices. Usually meet for cofee and if chemistry discuss pricing and terms and if agree proceed

- but the Japanese girls currently on the site are clearly from a group or agency - to extent i would call them semi pro organization that preps them in advance of what to ask
I have had at least 6 different one contact me over several months and when I responded, they all ask minimum of $800 per date and $5000 per month and when i say too much, that i pass without insults, they all insult me - odd. In fact i have talked with many girls and we not always agree on price or terms but it is only the Japanese girls that throw the insults.

Probably the same Japanese women that kept messaging me. Wouldn't take no for an answer, wouldn't see me for less than $800 for an hour, wouldn't stop messaging me with a new Price/Service adjustment. I finally blocked them.

A lot of the new girls have had a friend recommend the site and even do their profile - complete with pictures that TinEye and Google Image quickly find. So, SA is becoming a straight SP site for men that think they are getting a low volume SP. The more pictures in the profile, the more likely she is an SP.

 

[SInCity67]

I'm connected with an SB on SA who is also on CuddleUp. I asked her about it, and explained she charges $250/hour to cuddle naked, no sex. She's a young hottie, but c'mon! I'm wondering what the full date price is gonna run.

Quickly looking at that site I see ReneePhillips and bellastella . These hoes should just go on leolist.

 

[sdw]

Quickly looking at that site I see ReneePhillips and bellastella . These hoes should just go on leolist.

The "new" Japanese woman that is offering massage should definitely advertise on LL. She has her menu and price list in her SA profile.

 

[4everinlove]

Definitely girls from all walks of life on there...some just need some extra cash....some just want to have fun...even a BC Lion Cheerleader is on there...

 

[Edward Lei]

You guys do realize that all this chatter and action has pretty much turned SA into a glorified LL or POF ho directory. The good, somewhat reasonably priced action that was on there a 2 to 3 years ago are all but gone.

 

[sdw]

You guys do realize that all this chatter and action has pretty much turned SA into a glorified LL or POF ho directory. The good, somewhat reasonably priced action that was on there a 2 to 3 years ago are all but gone.

The chatter here is practically non-existent in the non-pooner world. Seeking Arrangement has been engaged in a massive "Awareness" campaign and that is what has changed SA. Or do you think that the girls are only seeing members of PERB? Women didn't used to view SA as an one-time platform for intimate arrangements and the men that used SA didn't use SA for one-time intimate arrangements. It's a decision by SA management. A guy seeking "action" used to have to be very careful what he said in his messages, so did the women. Now, women are putting availability and price in their profile and guys are talking money in their messages. You used to have to meet with the woman to talk money, to directly mention money in a message was to be warned and/or banned from SA.

I think that what women like about SA is that it doesn't cost them anything to post a profile and to read and respond to messages. The men pay to be able to read and respond to messages.

If SA starts to police the policy that they say still applies, SA will quickly return to the way it was. After all, it costs the man a minimum of $107 to be banned from SA. With the pooners gone, the SPs will return to their traditional advertising venues. That will leave the women that don't want to be a prostitute, but do want some additional monthly income.

 

[Edward Lei]

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Yes, I can see how the increased marketing and media attention has probably helped increase membership but I also think most people underestimate how many pooners (perb or otherwise) use SA. Real deal SDs are in the minority.

The rest of your post is a bit Captain Obvious so thanks?

 

[sdw]

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Yes, I can see how the increased marketing and media attention has probably helped increase membership but I also think most people underestimate how many pooners (perb or otherwise) use SA. Real deal SDs are in the minority.

The rest of your post is a bit Captain Obvious so thanks?

I have to wonder what your definition of "Real deal SDs" is? Is it the guy who follows SA's rules and is looking to see the same woman once a week for 2 - 4 hours? That is what many of us look for. When the SB has a whole lot of offers from guys that only want to see her once for an hour, well it's less work for her to accept those offers. The guy that is looking for 2 - 4 hours is pushed aside.

 

[Edward Lei]

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The uber rich SDs actually able to give monthly allowances. Anything else is straight pay for play and isn't what the site is marketed as such, either to the women on there or to the masses.

 

[BaconNeggs]

A university student for example.
Making 3k or 4k cash per month is now living well, no longer the starving student.
She can buy books and food, rent a decent suite, and be happy while so greatly reduced stress on her.
What surprises me is that many more young women do not already do it.
My Sugar Baby makes more than enough to live on very well between our arrangement and her waitress job. She just bought an expensive new car and refurnished her beautiful high rise condo with great views.
Remember it's cash for them, not a job with significant government deductions.
She gets to have tons of fun sex and fantastic meals and road trips as well.
Who doesn't want that.
Most would do that for free, or pay some for the opportunity.
But no, instead they make a lot of money for the privilege.
To me the smart students would all join SA and get a SD.

 

[sdw]

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The uber rich SDs actually able to give monthly allowances. Anything else is straight pay for play and isn't what the site is marketed as such, either to the women on there or to the masses.

Since I want 2 - 4 hours, I can see an elite companion for more than a $1000 once a week OR I can see a SB for a $1000 a week. The cost is actually less to see a SB and when I compare the comfort of the time I spend with a SB compared with the comfort of the time I spend with a SP, the SB is more comfortable to be with. It's not hard to select the real SBs. She's the one that doesn't have an hourly rate. It's nice to be able to see a show, have a nice dinner and not have to worry about running out of time or incurring additional costs.

 

[High Roller]

Since I want 2 - 4 hours, I can see an elite companion for more than a $1000 once a week OR I can see a SB for a $1000 a week. The cost is actually less to see a SB and when I compare the comfort of the time I spend with a SB compared with the comfort of the time I spend with a SP, the SB is more comfortable to be with. It's not hard to select the real SBs. She's the one that doesn't have an hourly rate. It's nice to be able to see a show, have a nice dinner and not have to worry about running out of time or incurring additional costs.

To me, if she is just spending time and nothing else, then yes, it's pay for play. But, to me, a SB arrangement is also an exclusive one, so that she gets more money for the time spent, but, in return I get her exclusively. Otherwise, I might as well just go for a GFE pay for play.

 

[sdw]

To me, if she is just spending time and nothing else, then yes, it's pay for play. But, to me, a SB arrangement is also an exclusive one, so that she gets more money for the time spent, but, in return I get her exclusively. Otherwise, I might as well just go for a GFE pay for play.

There is no way of ensuring that the SB you are paying the allowance to is not seeing other men. You may learn about it, but you can't ensure against it. Even when I was paying a lot of money for a lady's time ($25,000 a month) I didn't own her and had no right to tell her how she could spend her time. I still had to arrange time together and sometimes she wasn't available.

That's why I only agree on arrangements for $1000 a week now. If she spends the evening and night with me, it's less than what an elite companion would have asked for. If I get tickets to something and she wants to come with me, it's still $1000 a week. If I want to bed her after the performance, there will be some extra money involved.

Basically, it doesn't matter if you are married, living together, in a SB relationship or whatever. You can't own a person unless you are a Pimp and brutalize the person and/or their family.

It's easier to realize that when you no longer have money to burn, but celebrity divorces soon remind you that it doesn't matter who you are, how much money you have or how much you can damage the other person. You can't own another person without becoming a monster.

 

[High Roller]

No one is forcing anyone, but, in business, there are exclusive agreements. So an employee cannot, in his spare time, work for a competitor. I had a semi-exclusive relationship, and she blocked off a certain time every week for me. If we had wanted to continue, and I raised her pay, then we agreed the arrangement would be exclusive - we never did that, but it was all voluntary.

BTW, for the members here, what're the benefits of such a relationship v a GFE? I'm curious to know how everyone thinks.

 

[Edward Lei]

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You get to block out the loneliness 2 - 4 hours at a time?

In all seriousness, I don't see much, if any, difference at all. Epecially nowadays with the rise in popularity of SBs. Been there, done both and while I think, for the most part, you are usually getting lower volume girls on SA (again, can be argued nowadays), you're paying for that companionship. Guess what? Most upscale escorts (I use that term loosely) will happily charge you for time spent outside of the bedroom. And then there are independent girls that'll happily share a meal or go out with regulars if there is a connection and feel comfortable with him, off the clock.

The way I see it, SA has just given these girls an avenue to charge for stuff like this. Nothing wrong with that, just not what I'm after.

 

[sdw]

No one is forcing anyone, but, in business, there are exclusive agreements. So an employee cannot, in his spare time, work for a competitor. I had a semi-exclusive relationship, and she blocked off a certain time every week for me. If we had wanted to continue, and I raised her pay, then we agreed the arrangement would be exclusive - we never did that, but it was all voluntary.

BTW, for the members here, what're the benefits of such a relationship v a GFE? I'm curious to know how everyone thinks.

The biggest difference is time. With an Elite Companion you are buying a block of time. What you want to do must fit into that block and sudden changes of plan are not encouraged. With a SB, you schedule a block of time. But - if she's not really interested in listening to Wagner - you can go somewhere else. you might even be able to scalp the Wagner tickets Also, if things have progressed very well, you don't have to stop and negotiate extra time to complete what you were doing. Also completely spontaneous stuff can happen, like you are talking about the Provincial Museum, she says she's never been there. Suddenly, you have a Ferry trip with her to see the Museum and have tea at the Empress. Maybe, it doesn't even cost more than fares and entrance fees. That spontaneity doesn't happen with an Elite Companion, because she's booked for that time.

 

[sdw]

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You get to block out the loneliness 2 - 4 hours at a time?

In all seriousness, I don't see much, if any, difference at all. Epecially nowadays with the rise in popularity of SBs. Been there, done both and while I think, for the most part, you are usually getting lower volume girls on SA (again, can be argued nowadays), you're paying for that companionship. Guess what? Most upscale escorts (I use that term loosely) will happily charge you for time spent outside of the bedroom. And then there are independent girls that'll happily share a meal or go out with regulars if there is a connection and feel comfortable with him, off the clock.

The way I see it, SA has just given these girls an avenue to charge for stuff like this. Nothing wrong with that, just not what I'm after.

SA has given the SB the ability to see what she's going to be with - even the first time she sees the guy. SPs book with someone totally unknown to them, and have to deal with it. The way I see it, a SB has more power to refuse than a SP has.

 

[High Roller]

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You get to block out the loneliness 2 - 4 hours at a time?

In all seriousness, I don't see much, if any, difference at all. Epecially nowadays with the rise in popularity of SBs. Been there, done both and while I think, for the most part, you are usually getting lower volume girls on SA (again, can be argued nowadays), you're paying for that companionship. Guess what? Most upscale escorts (I use that term loosely) will happily charge you for time spent outside of the bedroom. And then there are independent girls that'll happily share a meal or go out with regulars if there is a connection and feel comfortable with him, off the clock.

The way I see it, SA has just given these girls an avenue to charge for stuff like this. Nothing wrong with that, just not what I'm after.

Hi Edward,

I'm tending to agree there may not be much difference. If I was to spend 2-4 hours with a GFE or with an SB, it comes to the same. If I wanted exclusivity, and assuming I can verify that, I have to pay extra, meaning a comfortable income. You know, I'm thinking of doing that for a couple of years with a couple of SB's, to have them on call 24/7, just to say, been there, done that.

 

[sdw]

I get a laugh out of the idea of "exclusivity" in a paid relationship.

A person that expects "exclusivity" in any relationship where both parties are free to do as they please - is an idiot.

Sure a Saudi Prince's harem is exclusive to him - but most people don't maintain their own personal prisons to "ensure the virtue" of their sex toys in Canada.

The "branded" SP that is servicing 45 minute appointments during her stay in the Lower Mainland, knows what will happen if she makes a break for the door.

 

[High Roller]

If you are in the very high net worth category, and you have professional resources, arrangements can be made, legally and voluntarily. But why belabour the issue - if others disagree, I will respect their opinions.