Need tips or advice on how to do a dinner date with an SP.

[johnA27]

Well course I'd do that only with someone who I've seen a couple of times for normal sessions already. But because I've never had one before I'd ask these... Even if some questions seem dumb or common sense, I still need to know... I am thinking of doing it when I visit Victoria next week either with SVIP or one of the indies I've seen...

What conversations do you have? Cause at the incall even if convo is good it's usually about each other's body or sexual in nature. Do you have to be careful to keep the conversation work safe? How bout contact? Is there any kissing? Hand holding? Hugging?

How much do you eat? Will the SP necessarily match that? Cause if anything I'd want to keep the meal very very light with maybe a couple of drinks. It's not about the cost it's about the amount.

Do you have the lady really dress up such that people can tell she's an SP at first glance? Or be more discrete?

Where do you meet her? Go in and out of the incall or agency together? Cause I thought most ladies very carefully open the door and don't want to be seen with guys or something.

May have more questions as I get this discussion going... Sorry if some of these sound dumb.

 

[islander1-1]

I look forward to hearing from others on this subject. I have only taken out one of my favorite SPs in Victoria for coffee/lunch. She was dressed in jeans and a low cut top. (bib boobs) and she got quite a few looks as we sat at the counter in a local food court at one of the malls. It was quite an adventure. I plan on taking her for a ride in my convertible later on this year when the weather warms up and maybe stop for dinner someplace quiet. Conversation will be easy as we have so much in common outside the bedroom I am pretty sure we will have no difficulty there.

 

[westwoody]

Keep the dinner light. You don't want to pig out and then go back to your room and pass out on the sofa.

I prefer the lady dress very discreetly. Sometimes if it is a really gorgeous lady, yes, you kind of want to "show her off". I did that once though and I think she was embarrassed at being treated like a piece of decoration. Imagine Galadriel going out to dinner with Gimli, and that was us. Yeah I still feel bad about that. A real professional lady will know where to go and what to wear.

Usually we meet at her hotel and then go to a nearby restaurant. We might even meet in the lobby to save a few minutes. When we return we just go right through the lobby like any other couple. I have done this many times and nobody has ever given me a second look.

For what it's worth, I had the time of my life with an outstanding lady on New Year's Eve. NHL hockey game, dinner, New Year's festivities, and sleepover.
A FABULOUS TIME!
After doing a few of these you might not go back to the usual hour or two session.
It is a completely different experience, and a better one.

Common sense says do this with someone you already know and are compatible with.

Good luck.

 

[johnA27]

So usually you'd have to have your own hotel room? What if I wanna just go back to either her place or SVIP?

 

[sdw]

Well course I'd do that only with someone who I've seen a couple of times for normal sessions already. But because I've never had one before I'd ask these... Even if some questions seem dumb or common sense, I still need to know... I am thinking of doing it when I visit Victoria next week either with SVIP or one of the indies I've seen...

What conversations do you have? Cause at the incall even if convo is good it's usually about each other's body or sexual in nature. Do you have to be careful to keep the conversation work safe? How bout contact? Is there any kissing? Hand holding? Hugging?

How much do you eat? Will the SP necessarily match that? Cause if anything I'd want to keep the meal very very light with maybe a couple of drinks. It's not about the cost it's about the amount.

Do you have the lady really dress up such that people can tell she's an SP at first glance? Or be more discrete?

Where do you meet her? Go in and out of the incall or agency together? Cause I thought most ladies very carefully open the door and don't want to be seen with guys or something.

May have more questions as I get this discussion going... Sorry if some of these sound dumb.

When I was doing dinner and dessert with an SP, I've had her always show up in jeans and a top. They really filled the jeans attractively and don't look like an SP. I have to agree with westwoody, you don't want to be overfull. You can always have dessert after dessert if you want to. The SPs that I've had dinner and dessert with all met me in the Restaurant. If I saw them I'd go get them if they looked lost, but most had asked what I'd be wearing and came directly to the table.

I think that the SPs that do multi-hour appointments with dinner and dessert can all talk about anything - in fact - if you can't make the conversation flow, they usually can. None of them ordered a heavy meal or more than one drink.

I think that there is something about using the incall or agency that changes the dynamics of the session. Usually, the space is shared and the SP needs to fit into the shared schedule.

 

[johnA27]

I thought many ladies have their own place or share with only one other. But ya, I wonder how going in and out together work...

 

[UhOh]

You might be overthinking this, conversations should come naturally. You need to be able to read people. Sometimes the harder you try to impress the more you fail. Don't try to impress cause its not a real date so mostly just try not to be weird.

 

[sevenofnine]

in all cases follow the sp's lead,

she has all the power here right you piss her off make her feel uncomfortable and she isn't going to be all that warm and fuzzy in bed, if you catch my drift.

that being said my and my sp, have pretty much done it all, in terms of supper dates. gone out she had cooked for me, done higher end bars and eats, to just plane old mac and cheese or the golden archers.
in my experience sp's don't dress all that revealing in public they dress pretty plane jane, unless you request something.

my advice would be to not attract attention, I don't know what your situation is, but I don't think it matters, me and my sp were pretty low key when were out and about,
we actually act like husband and wife. the waitresses take us for husband and wife. it seems odd but that is the way everyone treats us. surprises me actually so low key.

I was out with a younger thing I met on arrangement seekers. she was younger and she wanted all the attention all eyes on her, she dressed really revealing and was loud, and sexual and playful in public, every where we went they just stared at us. it was a blast once, maybe twice, but then I noticed it was all the wrong attention the waitresses were rude to us. people looked at us for all the wrong reasons.
no you want to keep low key, you know what your doing and going to do, you don't have to broadcast it to the world and let them judge you,
just be a normal couple when your out and about.
and again follow her lead she has friends and family too. it might be hard for her to explain to someone if your hands are all over her and some one sees.

if your out and about, if your in a private booth or the place is quiet, then you can be more free with your conversation. but again people will be judging you, and looking at you,
yeah I know it doesn't matter what people think, but we live in a world full of people, so does she. so its best not to rub it in there face,

I wouldn't force it, I mean me and my sp felt comfortable are comfortable with each other. conversation is easy always has been,,,
well for the most part im an easy conversationalist, and I listen well.
but I wouldn't book a supper date in a pub or wherever, on a fist encounter, or with someone the conversation is strained.
not a chance,
book a supper date and order in.
you can always put some sauce on her pussy and lick it off if the conversation fades. or the other way around,
let her clean your prick after some sweet and sour sauce accidentally dripped on it.

wasn't it who was it,
a famous singer, got into shit after he ate eggs off of a naked hookers chest,
she complained the knife was to sharp, Frank Sinatra I think,
but supper dates can be so interesting.

 

[alcxd]

Go somewhere you feel comfortable
I've taken sp's to Garrick's Head Pub, Browns Social Lounge, Azuma Sushi, Oak Bay Marina, Heron Rock Bistro, Victoria Marriot Inner Harbour & a few others.
I've taken independents, & sweetvips & had a great time. Conversation comes naturally, so don't worry about staring at the ceiling with nothing to say.
Haven't had any dress indescreatly, some in nice dresses, others in jeans or spandex leggings.
Have a plan so she knows what to wear. Going for a walk after ? Or just back to room give them an idea on shoes.
Pick up for sweetvips has been at there incall, quick text saying you are there & Harvi will have them out the door or a quick knock & out she comes.
Thing to remember is that the sp needs to let Harvi know when on way back.
Lastly, it's nice to have more than a few hours. I like 2 & 2, that gives lots of time for food & play.
Have fun

 

[johnA27]

Go somewhere you feel comfortable
I've taken sp's to Garrick's Head Pub, Browns Social Lounge, Azuma Sushi, Oak Bay Marina, Heron Rock Bistro, Victoria Marriot Inner Harbour & a few others.
I've taken independents, & sweetvips & had a great time. Conversation comes naturally, so don't worry about staring at the ceiling with nothing to say.
Haven't had any dress indescreatly, some in nice dresses, others in jeans or spandex leggings.
Have a plan so she knows what to wear. Going for a walk after ? Or just back to room give them an idea on shoes.
Pick up for sweetvips has been at there incall, quick text saying you are there & Harvi will have them out the door or a quick knock & out she comes.
Thing to remember is that the sp needs to let Harvi know when on way back.
Lastly, it's nice to have more than a few hours. I like 2 & 2, that gives lots of time for food & play.
Have fun

Have you ever done fun back at SVIPs location? Or its at your own place/hotel? I won't have my own place which is why I want to go back to the location...

I'll see what will work. I don't know if their close at 10pm is strict or I could actually go beyond that. Then I'll have to see if my 2 fav ladies are on shift anyways, and I can't inquire til next week about that...

 

[MyahriPirgulyyewa]

First of all, find a balance between what you or the lady like to talk about. Don't just talk about the stuff that you know, and let the lady start another topic and contribute your thoughts. If you find out your lady like to talk about a certain topic, try to contribute based on your knowledge of that topic. If not, maybe she can teach you something and then go from there. I would suggest not to talk about politics, religion as those may lead to arguments. For example, with my ATF lady, we liked to talk about food, travel, relationship history, customs/history in my culture. You don't have to think about it as very difficult, just go with the flow and I am sure conversation would flow naturally as well. Just like meeting new friends or dating a new woman. I wouldn't feel comfortable kissing in public, however, we did hold hands and hugs.

In terms of how much to eat, I made a mistake on our first dinner date. We went to a dark, romantic restaurant, but we ordered heavy meat dishes and seafood pasta, and it was actually a bit tiring afterwards. So the next time, we ate smaller portions but few more dishes (oysters, shrimp cocktails, crab cakes, and sushi), and that seem to work out better. Of course add a couple of drinks in there, either few glasses of wine, or cocktails. We actually ordered 1 bottle of wine on 2 occasions, but one time I was still hungover from the bachelor party the day before, and another time I was a fairly tired, so the lady ended up drinking 3/4 of the bottle. If you don't want to spend too much and still enjoy decent food in Victoria, I would suggest Brown social House (mentioned in other posts as well), Cactus Club, Sen Zushi would fit your bill. Something med range would make the occasion a bit more comfortable.

As for dress, I don't think you need to worry about this unless you requested something that is very sexy that would draw attention to other men. On all our dates, she was dressed appropriately for the occasion and similar to other ladies at the restaurant. We went to high end restaurants, so she was in a dress with heels, another time it was pant with normal top,blouse (showed a bit of cleavage, but nothing outrageous) are sufficient, and I guarantee you no one would know the lady is an SP.

Honestly, I felt very comfortable doing dinner dates, and we have talked about doing other activities like movies, shows, etc. But of course that takes a bit of time to develop.

Well, it is definitely a much more fun experience.

PM me if you want more Victoria restaurant info.

 

[alcxd]

I've done 2 hr play at sweetvips. You need to inquire with Harvi as to time. If you've seen the girls defore, & know your schedule, talk with Harvi as the girls usually book there times for the next week either sat or Sunday so the girls can arrange their schedule accordingly.
As mentioned above holding hangs & hugs in public, but limited kissing probably recommended.
If you like walks, I did a nice long inner harbour walk with a retired sp Olivia, it was great walking hand in hand, talking, flirting, etc.
As I said it's all about picking something that you are hopefully comfortable with
Have fun

 

[qfscqfsc]

Well course I'd do that only with someone who I've seen a couple of times for normal sessions already. But because I've never had one before I'd ask these... Even if some questions seem dumb or common sense, I still need to know... I am thinking of doing it when I visit Victoria next week either with SVIP or one of the indies I've seen....

I do this regularly with SPs in Vancouver, only with those who I'm very comfortable with and find interesting. Presumably they are comfortable with me, as being in public is quite a bit different than an incall.

First and foremost, be the person you'd like to have dinner with. Be respectful, kind, and interesting. As you'll be in public, the discussion should be safe and discreet. Talk about books or interesting articles you've read, places you've visited, cultural events you've attended or want to attend, etc. I'm guessing she will be quite capable of carrying the conversation where it starts to fall flat.

As for how you both dress, I always suggest to dress for the part you are playing. My experiences range from acting as business professionals, to pretending to be old friends, to being on an regular date. If its your interest to be seen with a very sexy woman who draws the attention of everyone she walks by, ask her to dress appropriately. If you'd rather be less noticeable then say so. Anticipate how you both will be seen by other folks at the restaurant, waitstaff, etc. Pick a role and ensure she is aware of this.

As for the touching, hugging, kissing aspect, this depends entirely on the situation and the role you are playing as well as her comfort level. I generally stick with a friendly, quick hug when meeting at the restaurant and save everything else for later.

Pick a restaurant that caters to a lighter menu, as neither of you will be very interested in a five course extravaganza. I always pick the restaurant, sometimes offer several options, but confirm the choice is good with her. There are reasons where certain places won't work for certain ladies, and it can be quite embarrassing to find out too late. Do you typically have a drink with her at the incall? If not, could be because she doesn't drink, and the same will apply at the restaurant. The standard act of courteousness applies: let her lead with drink and food selection, and follow along.

Where do you meet her? Go in and out of the incall or agency together? Cause I thought most ladies very carefully open the door and don't want to be seen with guys or something.

I generally prefer to meet in public, either at the restaurant or at a coffee shop nearby. No reason to meet at her incall where being seen may be a concern for her. Scout the location ahead of time so you know you where you are going, and arrive a bit early. Don't make her wait for you.

-qq

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I prefer the lady dress very discreetly. Sometimes if it is a really gorgeous lady, yes, you kind of want to "show her off". I did that once though and I think she was embarrassed at being treated like a piece of decoration. Imagine Galadriel going out to dinner with Gimli, and that was us. Yeah I still feel bad about that. A real professional lady will know where to go and what to wear.

Agreed! I've never done this (too nervous about being seen and worse yet approached by someone I know) but if you really want to just enjoy the evening, along with each other's company, you don't need the distraction of feeling you're being stared at.

I've seen it both ways.

A few years ago I was out at a very ritzy function and there was a guy there with a date who happened to be an SP I knew.
I know for a fact she was his "paid date" because was we spoke briefly (very discretely and she approached me BTW). She was dressed very nicely but nothing too revealing or fancy. They blended in as just another couple and no one was the wiser.

Another time I ran into another SP, I also knew while she was accompanying a gentleman at a local Chinese New Years dinner. She was dressed very provocatively and her "assets" were on full display. Every single person at our table, men and women all commented that she must be that guy's "paid date" for the night. In this case it didn't help that she was young enough to be his grand daughter.

Have fun.

Cheers

 

[westwoody]

If you have her dress up like a tart you make yourself look bad, not her.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Do you have the lady really dress up such that people can tell she's an SP at first glance?

What does this even mean? I keep re-reading it & it irks me more every time. ANY sp who is professional enough to offer dinner dates knows how to dress appropriately to the occasion/location of the date. She knows to check out the place/event ahead of time so that she can blend in discreetly. If you want the 'dating a pornstar' fantasy, or 'picked up a streetwalker' fantasy for that matter, that's a different type of look, for sure. It's also a different type of provider with the equivalent & likely higher rate.

 

[johnA27]

What does this even mean? I keep re-reading it & it irks me more every time. ANY sp who is professional enough to offer dinner dates knows how to dress appropriately to the occasion/location of the date. She knows to check out the place/event ahead of time so that she can blend in discreetly. If you want the 'dating a pornstar' fantasy, or 'picked up a streetwalker' fantasy for that matter, that's a different type of look, for sure. It's also a different type of provider with the equivalent & likely higher rate.

It wasn't meant to be offensive, like I said I haven't done this before and just have so many questions... Even like you said, I could live out the just picked up a streetwalker fantasy by request if I want to so obviously this is a point that requires SOME thought.

 

[Warl0ck]

What does this even mean? I keep re-reading it & it irks me more every time. ANY sp who is professional enough to offer dinner dates knows how to dress appropriately to the occasion/location of the date.

I think there is a percentage of men want to take out a woman and have her dressed provocatively. Perhaps it's a method of showing off to their peers "check out the hottie I have". Personally I don't think I'd invite out a woman and want her to dress like a tramp. I'd want some mystery. A fully clothed woman is often sexier than one wearing very little. I will say my personal experience being around SP's in the "non pooner" sense is that they tended to not dress to attract attention to themselves. I remember the thigh high hooker boots fashion on women a few years back. I'd always chuckle because my own SO wouldn't wear them but all these prudish civilian women I knew did.

It wasn't meant to be offensive, like I said I haven't done this before and just have so many questions

if you want my advice I'd worry more about what you wear and how you look. All the women I've ever known generally liked a well dressed male & it's very likely you'll get "better mileage" if you look sharp. Suit/sport jackets are great too, they hide a small frame & hide those men who are bigger. As for what to say, well again, my experience dating women is that the male is expected to carry the conversation. So it's up to you to find out what interests her & then carry a conversation with her. If she does these type of dates she'll probably engage you in conversation. I'd just stay away from hot button topics like politics. I'd also remember folks may be listening so adjust the topics to your surroundings. I read a review once where a guy took out an escort and she was loudly talking about what she did for a living while they were eating at a restaurant with a family sitting at the next table. Think #manners. Now these are only my opinions and I tend to be polite and not want to draw attention to myself in public (like I don't have cell phone convo's on the bus).

As for food, generally if you're going to a restaurant that focuses on good food, the portions are generally sized so that you won't feel too full after eating. Now if you go to a pub and eat 4 pounds of hot wings ... well...

And any hand holding, etc, I would think you'd discuss this prior to the date. That's intimacy and perhaps not something every escort is willing or able to offer? I think it's up to the individual. Same for public kissing. What happens in a hotel room is very different than what happens publicly.

Most of all man, don't sweat it. This isn't a date from POF. It's what the chick off Pretty Woman said "I'm a sure thing".

 

[johnA27]

Great advices guys. So what I can get out of this is just relax and be myself and she'll fill in the rest. nobody knows me in Victoria so I'd leave it to her on how she dress though I do think not attracting attention is a good idea.

I guess light dinner plus something else romantic (walk in park etc) would be nice. I'll see if anything like that can be arranged.

Only need to figure out if SVIP can accommodate due to their hours or what not...

 

[Edward Lei]

So this is an all paid date from beginning to end?!