11 Ridings Where Progressive British Columbians Should Vote Liberal To Defeat Harper

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Justin Trudeau interfered with the nominations in some of these ridings and poisoned the well.

West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country - It's a Conservative majority vote
Delta - It's a Conservative majority vote
North Vancouver - Justin Trudeau interfered against Don Bell to nominate Jonathan Wilkinson - The Conservative will win
Richmond Centre - It's a Conservative Riding
Vancouver Centre - Hedy Fry, the Liberal will win. The NDP is running CBC weather lady Claire Martin who may spoil Hedy's re-election
Steveston-Richmond East It's a Conservative Riding
Vancouver Granville - Justin Trudeau inserted his Star who has no roots, The Conservative may squeak in because there is a strong NDP candidate
Surrey-Newton - Liberals will win
Vancouver Quadra - Joyce will win, she's the Liberal that currently holds the riding
Vancouver South - The Liberal may win despite Justin Trudeau inserting a Star. The East Indian community may vote NDP because of the Liberal nomination which will return Conservative Wai Young
South Surrey-White Rock - Diane Watts, Conservative should have made this a cakewalk. She and the Conservatives have put their foot in their mouths and Liberal Judy Higgenbottom could win as a result. Both Diane and Judy are long term Surrey politicians, both are well known.

The writer of the article obviously did the amount of research that the media normally does. ie, he copied a press release.

Research would have given him

Burnaby North Seymour - this is a knife fight between 3 pretty good candidates. The NDP can deny Justin Trudeau's chosen star and maybe even help elect the Conservative
Port Moody Coquitlam - part was held by Finn Donnely NDP, part was held by the Conservative. The Liberal may deny the riding to the NDP and allow the Conservative to win.
Saanich Gulf Islands - Elizabeth May is running in this part of her current riding. The Conservative will win because the NDP and Liberals are going to get enough votes to deny her the win.
Esquimalt Saanich Sooke - this is parts of 4 ridings, all held by different partys. The Conservative will win if the Liberal and Green candidates take enough vote to Deny the NDP candidate.
 

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haha funny. I looked up my new Liberal candidate and if you think Justin isn't ready, my N Van candidate looks like he is in high school and doesn't shave . :facepalm:

No to Libs, No to Cons, No to NDP so I am voting Green for the first time. At least my candidate spoke to me on my front door step. I don't know about you people but that personal touch means a lot to me.

Greens are against C-36 and C-51 which are my hot buttons.
 

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So, Harper may win 'cause of vote splitting among the opposition!
Is this really what the majority of Canada wants?
Can't speak for Canada but Libs, Cons and NDP are not on for me.
 

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Took advantage of the advanced voting and can sit here happily, and say .....I didn't vote for a certain enfeebled, poisoned anti-Perb party ;):thumb::cool::nod:
 

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Can't speak for Canada but Libs, Cons and NDP are not on for me.
Which is why strategic voting is critical in this election as one step towards electoral reform, and being in a better position to vote for who one really believes in next time.
If I could vote, I would be leaning Green as well... though this time round it would be ensuring the best non-Con candidate gets in.
But, even the Green's have many flaws. Under proportional representation I would predict we would see a splintering of current political parties and greater range of coalitions forming around specific interests.
 

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Which is why strategic voting is critical in this election as one step towards electoral reform, and being in a better position to vote for who one really believes in next time.
If I could vote, I would be leaning Green as well... though this time round it would be ensuring the best non-Con candidate gets in.
But, even the Green's have many flaws. Under proportional representation I would predict we would see a splintering of current political parties and greater range of coalitions forming around specific interests.
The three main parties are as disfunctional as the U.S. congress. Why would one support any of them?

Mulcair flip flops on a lot of the alledged policies. Never know which way the wind is blowing when he speaks.
 

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The three main parties are as disfunctional as the U.S. congress. Why would one support any of them?

Mulcair flip flops on a lot of the alledged policies. Never know which way the wind is blowing when he speaks.
I would agree with that, but I would rather either of the other two over the current incumbent. That been said, I really big push by the Green's (and maybe a misstep by the NDP) could see a Green MP in Burnaby North-Seymour.
 

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Took advantage of the advanced voting and can sit here happily, and say .....I didn't vote for a certain enfeebled, poisoned anti-Perb party ;):thumb::cool::nod:
lol, which one? The Conservatives who brought forward C-36? The Liberals who voted for C-36? or the NDP who voted against C-36 because it wasn't tough enough and didn't provide enough money for half-way houses for the victims of horrible, raping men?

I had to go and vote my beliefs on C-51, I held my nose until it bled and voted Liberal. Vote early before I can change my mind - again - that's my motto. The line ups weren't bad where I voted yesterday. And, yes I know that the Liberals voted for or abstained on C-51. However, Justin Trudeau is being effective against Harper on related issues. Unlike Thomas Mulcair who actually thought that Quebec wasn't listening to what he said outside of Quebec.
 

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I would agree with that, but I would rather either of the other two over the current incumbent. That been said, I really big push by the Green's (and maybe a misstep by the NDP) could see a Green MP in Burnaby North-Seymour.
No chance of that. Conservative Mike Little is running in a riding that would have elected a Conservative in 2011. NDP Carol Baird Ellan is replacing Kennedy Steward who is running in the southern part of his current riding. Kennedy Steward was working on pipeline issues BEFORE Thomas Mulcair even knew it was important to the residents of Burnaby Douglas. In fact, Kennedy Steward was denied committee appointments by Thomas Mulcair because he was working on the pipeline issue. Terry Beech is Justin Trudeau's choosen one. They were so afraid of a nomination that they decided to load the executive with only people that had signed a blood oath to Beech/Trudeau and refused to fill the vacant positions on the executive because they didn't have enough loyalists. Then, they sent the nomination notice out, by email, late and not to anyone that had been previously active. Needless to say, the "Old Guard" isn't working on the campaign.

It could be either Carol or Mike that wins, there won't be more than 500 votes difference between them. It is possible that Terry could get in there because the Liberals are the only valid alternative to another Harper government, but, that will mean that Mike Little will win. Terry Beech can't easily win and he doesn't have the ground force to pull the vote. Carol Baird Ellan and Mike Little both have the ground force to pull the vote and the Conservative E-Day machine is something to behold.
 

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Justin Trudeau interfered with the nominations in some of these ridings and poisoned the well.

West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast-Sea to Sky Country - It's a Conservative majority vote
Delta - It's a Conservative majority vote
North Vancouver - Justin Trudeau interfered against Don Bell to nominate Jonathan Wilkinson - The Conservative will win
Richmond Centre - It's a Conservative Riding
Vancouver Centre - Hedy Fry, the Liberal will win. The NDP is running CBC weather lady Claire Martin who may spoil Hedy's re-election
Steveston-Richmond East It's a Conservative Riding
Vancouver Granville - Justin Trudeau inserted his Star who has no roots, The Conservative may squeak in because there is a strong NDP candidate
Surrey-Newton - Liberals will win
Vancouver Quadra - Joyce will win, she's the Liberal that currently holds the riding
Vancouver South - The Liberal may win despite Justin Trudeau inserting a Star. The East Indian community may vote NDP because of the Liberal nomination which will return Conservative Wai Young
South Surrey-White Rock - Diane Watts, Conservative should have made this a cakewalk. She and the Conservatives have put their foot in their mouths and Liberal Judy Higgenbottom could win as a result. Both Diane and Judy are long term Surrey politicians, both are well known.

The writer of the article obviously did the amount of research that the media normally does. ie, he copied a press release.

Research would have given him

Burnaby North Seymour - this is a knife fight between 3 pretty good candidates. The NDP can deny Justin Trudeau's chosen star and maybe even help elect the Conservative
Port Moody Coquitlam - part was held by Finn Donnely NDP, part was held by the Conservative. The Liberal may deny the riding to the NDP and allow the Conservative to win.
Saanich Gulf Islands - Elizabeth May is running in this part of her current riding. The Conservative will win because the NDP and Liberals are going to get enough votes to deny her the win.
Esquimalt Saanich Sooke - this is parts of 4 ridings, all held by different partys. The Conservative will win if the Liberal and Green candidates take enough vote to Deny the NDP candidate.
Keep in mind that the Cons got 45.5% of the BC vote last time around, and this time polls have them coming up with about 25%, which means they are going to be losing a lot of seats here. Losing almost half the votes they got last time is going to hurt them big time. Any riding that was close for them last time is going to be a certain loss this time.

The NDP was 32.5% last time, and are currently around 30%. The support they have lost appears to be going mostly to the Greens, which means that they risk being split out of some seats they hold.

The Liberals are the big winners, going from 13.4% up to around 31%. Probably all of that comes directly from the Cons. Most of the urban Cons seats are at high risk of a change. I suspect that most of the western Vancouver ridings will end up as Liberal seats.

The Greens are actually doing pretty well in BC, going from 7.7% up to about 13%.

If actual voting follows the polling numbers, it is theoretically possible that the Cons might not win ANY BC seats.
 

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Keep in mind that the Cons got 45.5% of the BC vote last time around, and this time polls have them coming up with about 25%, which means they are going to be losing a lot of seats here. Losing almost half the votes they got last time is going to hurt them big time. Any riding that was close for them last time is going to be a certain loss this time.

The NDP was 32.5% last time, and are currently around 30%. The support they have lost appears to be going mostly to the Greens, which means that they risk being split out of some seats they hold.

The Liberals are the big winners, going from 13.4% up to around 31%. Probably all of that comes directly from the Cons. Most of the urban Cons seats are at high risk of a change. I suspect that most of the western Vancouver ridings will end up as Liberal seats.

The Greens are actually doing pretty well in BC, going from 7.7% up to about 13%.

If actual voting follows the polling numbers, it is theoretically possible that the Cons might not win ANY BC seats.
I think the 45.5% number comes from 2008.

I pulled up the EKOS April 30 2011 poll to compare with October 9 2015 so that I'm comparing apples to apples

BC Regional

April 30 2011
Conservative 36.3%
NDP 36.5%
Liberal 15.3%
Green 9.3%

October 9 2015
Conservative 26%
NDP 29%
Liberal 29%
Green 16%

The vote splitting among the "Progressive" parties is going to be massive. Which means the Conservatives can slide into many ridings with much less support than they needed in 2011. We'll probably see a bunch of recounts since a recount is required when the winning candidate wins with less than 1% of the vote. In 2011 there were 22 ridings where the Conservative won with less than 500 votes.

Nationally, the NDP is where the Liberals were in 2011

May 1 2011 Actual Vote
Conservative 39.6%
NDP 30.6%
Liberal 18.9%
Green 3.9%

EKOS April 30 2011
Conservative 34.6%
NDP 31.4%
Liberal 20.4%
Green 6.3%

EKOS October 9 2015
Conservative 33.7%
NDP 20.4%
Liberal 33.8%
Green 7.2%

The big loss for the Conservatives is going to be in the GTA, their success there in 2011 is what gave them majority government and losing the GTA is, at best, going to return them to 2008 where they won the West and lost the East for a minority government. You can't form a majority government in Canada without the GTA and Montreal.

The big loss for the NDP is going to be Quebec and the GTA, the "Orange Wave" is what gave them official opposition status and the loss of Quebec and the GTA is going to put them where they were in 2008 with 29 seats.

The Liberals will probably be the obvious winner when the polls in Manitoba have been counted. What they win in BC is just gravy that gives them a selection to select a BC Cabinet Minister. Probably Joyce Murray in Environment, although there are other possibilities.
 

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Took advantage of the advanced voting and can sit here happily, and say .....I didn't vote for a certain enfeebled, poisoned anti-Perb party ;):thumb::cool::nod:
Me too. Incredible turnout at the advance polls, obviously nobody else expected it either.

I had to stand in line and wait to vote. That has never happened before. Other voters and the staff were all amazed saying they could not believe it.

God help us all.
 
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