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Good for you for supporting this cause Lexi.

There are tons of videos about the Cove, most get pulled off youtube because they are so horrible. It's really disturbing that humans can be so sadistic. Imagine if a school had an outing to a farm and the kids all smashed cow's heads for fun and then stabbed sheep laughing and taking selfies covered in blood. That's what the Cove is like.
 

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Good for you for supporting this cause Lexi.

There are tons of videos about the Cove, most get pulled off youtube because they are so horrible. It's really disturbing that humans can be so sadistic. Imagine if a school had an outing to a farm and the kids all smashed cow's heads for fun and then stabbed sheep laughing and taking selfies covered in blood. That's what the Cove is like.

I know, now we just pay people to do it behind closed doors, we pretend not to know and we certainly don't tell the kids when we feed them hamburgers.

Phew. We're soooooo much better to animals!


Ps: I definitely support emptying the tanks. I also support emptying the feedlots, slaughterhouses and factory farms/houses of horrors. There's no difference, it's just that ones easier to pretend doesn't exist, I guess.


Teach your children compassion for ALL animals..

 

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I doth protest. I am a bit fearful of being bitten by a mermaid at a local pool. After all there may be a cross-species piranha mermaid somewhere out there looking for her next meal at the YMCA
 

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The mermaid that started this thread could bite me anytime. :thumb:
 

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I think you mean carnists?
(Humans are not carnivores, nor could they survive as strict carnivores. Cats are carnivores ;) )
Thank you for the correction. My cat eats olives, so should I label him a veggist? I love it when the language police come out to play. I show them the Urban dictionary and point out how language changes much to the chagrin of the language purists.
 

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Thank you for the correction. My cat eats olives, so should I label him a veggist? I love it when the language police come out to play. I show them the Urban dictionary and point out how language changes much to the chagrin of the language purists.

SIGH. I don't think you could have missed the point any more than you managed to.

First, I'm PRETTY sure carnivore is always going to have the same meaning. Second, I hate to disappoint you or the urban dictionary but 'veggist' is not a word ;) And while your cat may enjoy the taste of olives, it does not derive any vital nutrients necessary to its survival.

Biologically, humans are not carnivores. We do not require meat to derive all our nutrients. (We do not, in fact, require any meat at all.) However our current diet would be described as omnivorous. It has nothing to do with language police or purists, it's about using the accurate words, which is what intelligent people usually do because it makes communication with others a lot easier.

But I did not correct your use of the word carnivore to be the language police. If you'd watched the video, or at least followed the link I included, it would have become clear to you that I wasn't talking about biology and carnism has nothing to do with carnivores or omnivores.

Since that appears to be too much effort for you, here's a short explanation you would have found on the page I linked to:



" What Is Carnism?

Carnism is the invisible belief system, or ideology, that conditions people to eat certain animals. Carnism is essentially the opposite of veganism; “carn” means “flesh” or “of the flesh” and “ism” denotes a belief system. Most people view eating animals as a given, rather than a choice; in meat-eating cultures around the world people typically don’t think about why they find the flesh of some animals disgusting and the flesh of other animals appetizing, or why they eat any animals at all. But when eating animals is not a necessity for survival, as is the case in much of the world today, it is a choice - and choices always stem from beliefs."


" Omnivore, Carnivore, and Vegetarian: Inaccurate Terms

Just as "meat eater" is an inaccurate and misleading phrase to describe those who are not vegetarian or vegan, so, too, are the other commonly used terms, "omnivore" and "carnivore." These terms reinforce the assumption that eating animals is natural, one of the most entrenched and compelling myths used to justify carnism.

"Omnivore" and "carnivore" describe one's physiological disposition, rather than one's ideological choice: an omnivore is an animal, human or nonhuman, that can ingest both plant and animal matter, and a carnivore is an animal that needs to ingest flesh in order to survive."



Hopefully this clarifies things for you. For further information, I encourage you to browse the website or watch the video I kindly included in the original post. ;)
 
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Miss*Bijou

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Woot! At the Vancouver Aquarium...





The Vancouver Aquarium holds poor belugas and dolphins captive in tanks and use them in performances for the public...Many have died (including babies) over the years, most recently one of their dolphins died a week or two ago. The Aquarium has announced its intention to acquire several more animals, including more belugas.

I believe Marineland in Ontario is the only other facility to hold marine mammals captive in Canada. They have several belugas, a very lonely killer whale, I believe dolphins, as well as a few more species - all housed in absolutely appalling conditions.
 

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SIGH. I don't think you could have missed the point any more than you managed to.

First, I'm PRETTY sure carnivore is always going to have the same meaning. Second, I hate to disappoint you or the urban dictionary but 'veggist' is not a word ;) And while your cat may enjoy the taste of olives, it does not derive any vital nutrients necessary to its survival.

Biologically, humans are not carnivores. We do not require meat to derive all our nutrients. (We do not, in fact, require any meat at all.) However our current diet would be described as omnivorous. It has nothing to do with language police or purists, it's about using the accurate words, which is what intelligent people usually do because it makes communication with others a lot easier.

But I did not correct your use of the word carnivore to be the language police. If you'd watched the video, or at least followed the link I included, it would have become clear to you that I wasn't talking about biology and carnism has nothing to do with carnivores or omnivores.

Since that appears to be too much effort for you, here's a short explanation you would have found on the page I linked to:



" What Is Carnism?

Carnism is the invisible belief system, or ideology, that conditions people to eat certain animals. Carnism is essentially the opposite of veganism; “carn” means “flesh” or “of the flesh” and “ism” denotes a belief system. Most people view eating animals as a given, rather than a choice; in meat-eating cultures around the world people typically don’t think about why they find the flesh of some animals disgusting and the flesh of other animals appetizing, or why they eat any animals at all. But when eating animals is not a necessity for survival, as is the case in much of the world today, it is a choice - and choices always stem from beliefs."


" Omnivore, Carnivore, and Vegetarian: Inaccurate Terms

Just as "meat eater" is an inaccurate and misleading phrase to describe those who are not vegetarian or vegan, so, too, are the other commonly used terms, "omnivore" and "carnivore." These terms reinforce the assumption that eating animals is natural, one of the most entrenched and compelling myths used to justify carnism.

"Omnivore" and "carnivore" describe one's physiological disposition, rather than one's ideological choice: an omnivore is an animal, human or nonhuman, that can ingest both plant and animal matter, and a carnivore is an animal that needs to ingest flesh in order to survive."



Hopefully this clarifies things for you. For further information, I encourage you to browse the website or watch the video I kindly included in the original post. ;)
LOL you are the one who is missing the point Professor. I am not challenging your definition or correctness. I was teasing you about your need to correct me. You Win!
 

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Wouldn't it be healthier for them if they ate the vegetarians? (aw crap forgot to quote PC's post about aliens coming to earth and dining on the carnivores)
 

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Good for you for supporting this cause Lexi.

There are tons of videos about the Cove, most get pulled off youtube because they are so horrible. It's really disturbing that humans can be so sadistic. Imagine if a school had an outing to a farm and the kids all smashed cow's heads for fun and then stabbed sheep laughing and taking selfies covered in blood. That's what the Cove is like.
Hopefully they grow out of it and only share such stories with people that know the context.... otherwise it would be just another stupid intrusional metaphor lol
 
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