What does it take for an Agency to be successful in Vancouver?

[escapefromstress]

Toronto has several dozen big name successful Agencies along with many Spa/MP's, who frequently advertise that they're hiring, so business must be good. Montreal, Ottawa and most other major Canadian cities have many Agencies and Spas, but Vancouver seems to be lacking.

So, what kind of Agency would we have to create, in order to be successful in Vancouver?

I was surprised to see that Beach Bunnies didn't succeed here, because they're very successful in Kelowna.

I've often contemplated running an Agency or Spa.

 

[sybian]

Well if you ever need a string of cowboys to do some quality control, and product testing......
Just sayin'..

 

[escapefromstress]

Well if you ever need a string of cowboys to do some quality control, and product testing......
Just sayin'..

Duly noted.

 

[Lo-ki]

Well if you ever need a string of cowboys to do some quality control, and product testing......
Just sayin'..

Well...you can always do some testing on the Beach bunnies in Kelowna and report back..

As for spa's...the Micros have that pretty much got that covered in the lower mainland.

 

[escapefromstress]

Well...you can always do some testing on the Beach bunnies in Kelowna and report back..

As for spa's...the Micros have that pretty much got that covered in the lower mainland.

This is an example of a popular Spa in TO. http://www.musemassagespa.com/ A bit of an upgrade from the micros I've read about here.

 

[summerbreeze]

I would say that the independents are fairly well organized in terms of exposure here. Be tough competition.

Would not doubt that we have a higher Asian customer base than those other cities who also support the indie community.

The agencies who used to be in business here slowly went out of business. Doubtful it would be economic.

Also a little thing called living off of the avails....... (legal problem)

Question for you, what added value would you see an agency as you described provide?

 

[escapefromstress]

I would say that the independents are fairly well organized in terms of exposure here. Be tough competition.

Would not doubt that we have a higher Asian customer base than those other cities who also support the indie community.

The agencies who used to be in business here slowly went out of business. Doubtful it would be economic.

Also a little thing called living off of the avails....... (legal problem)

Question for you, what added value would you see an agency as you described provide?

There's also a huge number of Indy's working in TO, and the market seems to bear the mixture of Indy/Agency/Spa very well. Since Vancouver is so 'industry friendly', I'm surprised more big name Agencies haven't expanded into BC.

I've always thought it would be neat if a bunch of local pooners could design and invest in an Agency that would satisfy their specific needs and priorities.

Added value provided by reputable Agencies would include truthful advertising, genuine 'model quality companions', consistent 5 star amenities, a convenient discreet location and parking, first class service with the ability for clients to hold the Agency accountable for substandard service (refunds or discounts on future appointments) ... guys who like Agencies can probably add to the list of the advantages they see in using them.

 

[Dickson]

There's also a huge number of Indy's working in TO, and the market seems to bear the mixture of Indy/Agency/Spa very well. Since Vancouver is so 'industry friendly', I'm surprised more big name Agencies haven't expanded into BC.

I've always thought it would be neat if a bunch of local pooners could design and invest in an Agency that would satisfy their specific needs and priorities.

Added value provided by reputable Agencies would include truthful advertising, genuine 'model quality companions', consistent 5 star amenities, a convenient discreet location and parking, first class service with the ability for clients to hold the Agency accountable for substandard service (refunds or discounts on future appointments) ... guys who like Agencies can probably add to the list of the advantages they see in using them.

As a guy who uses a lot of agencies. I find TO for example there is too many choices of independens so I tend to stay with an agency like Select or Cupids. Same with a markets like Berlin or Hamburg. I feel I can trust them. They go out if their way for me. Like Greg at Select who caters to my desires. Mona at Mona Lisa. Then you have Jillian at Cupids has blackballed me and will not send me ladies because I questioned her rates on an over night. So now other agencies like TA and TP have got more of my business. Big mistake big mistake. I feel for Annika who looses out.

I use to use Foxworth before Carman fox. Then I used Scarlett's house for years.

The key is the ladies. Good ladies result in good service and good clients. Competition forces others to step up the game. For me it is about credibility. And security. Seeing independents I have never seen can be risky business in different countries.

I have never had luck in the US. Other than a few porn stars I tend to bring ladies from Vancouver, Toronto or Berlin, Hamburg, Budapest, Prague, or Kiev.

The right ladies make or break you. Then it is about baby sitting them. You need to speak to Carman in Toronto who has an agency High Society. She use to be a SP in Vancouver who made the move there started up one specializing in Eastern European ladies.

Well that is my two cents for what it worth. Then the girls move around it I like herding cats. Tough job.

 

[Dickson]

There's also a huge number of Indy's working in TO, and the market seems to bear the mixture of Indy/Agency/Spa very well. Since Vancouver is so 'industry friendly', I'm surprised more big name Agencies haven't expanded into BC.

I've always thought it would be neat if a bunch of local pooners could design and invest in an Agency that would satisfy their specific needs and priorities.

Added value provided by reputable Agencies would include truthful advertising, genuine 'model quality companions', consistent 5 star amenities, a convenient discreet location and parking, first class service with the ability for clients to hold the Agency accountable for substandard service (refunds or discounts on future appointments) ... guys who like Agencies can probably add to the list of the advantages they see in using them.

As a guy who uses a lot of agencies. I find TO for example there is too many choices so I tend to stay with an agency like Select or Cupids, High Society, same with a markets like Berlin. I feel I can trust Agency and I have more protection. They go out if their way for me. Like Greg at Select who caters to my desires. Jillian at Cupids has blackballed me and will not send me ladies because I questioned her rates on over nights. So now other agencies like TA and TP have got more of my business. Mona Lisa in Berlin.

I use to use Foxworth before Carman fox here in Vancouver. Then I used Scarlett's house for years, Scarlett was great at setting things up for me like the elimidate then the stable went dry.

The key is the ladies. Good ladies result in good service and good clients. Competition forces others to step up the game. For me it is about credibility. And security. Seeing independents I have never seen can be risky business in different countries.

I have never had luck in the US. Other than a few porn stars I tend to bring ladies from Vancouver, Toronto or Berlin, Hamburg, Budapest, Prague, or Kiev.

The right ladies make or break you. Then it is about baby sitting them. You need to speak to Carman in Toronto who has an agency High Society. She use to be a SP in Vancouver who made the move there started up one specializing in Eastern European ladies.

Well that is my two cents for what it worth. Then the girls move around it I like herding cats. Tough job.

 

[sybian]

Well I have a different set of priorities than most...My location always makes me look at incalls, and travel time always factors into my "Bullshit" meter. If I drive 5 or 6 hours to spend time with a young lady, she'd better have a good reason for delays or cancellations..And her pics. had at least better be close to what I see at the door.
I myself , am far from perfect...But I'm told I'm not hideous either...So a fair and good representation in the form of pics. would be an attention grabber, although I understand why some blurr, or don't include face shots.
I have several ladies here, that I communicate with back and forth with PM's and Emails...and that personal contact always gets my diesel engine purring just right.
Like any service industry, that extra personal touch will always get the preffered customers.

...And Loki.....Me and my Cowboys, have graced the establishment of the Beach Bunnies.It was after a very long stretch of gathering and riding, and some of the boys got a little a little carried away..We're not allowed there anymore. But they said if I arrived alone, they'd consider letting me in again.
Boys ,will be boys..

 

[chuckertmg]

Toronto has several dozen big name successful Agencies along with many Spa/MP's, who frequently advertise that they're hiring, so business must be good. Montreal, Ottawa and most other major Canadian cities have many Agencies and Spas, but Vancouver seems to be lacking.

So, what kind of Agency would we have to create, in order to be successful in Vancouver?

I like the Cupids (Toronto) business model: look out for the best interests of your girls, cater to an upscale downtown, outcall, business clientele and people will be falling over each other to work for you.
My understanding of Jillian Hollander is that she provides perks such as employer savings/retirement contributions for her employees, and if they return to school she pays half their tuition.
When I was there in March she had hundreds of applications sitting on her desk.
Thus, she can afford to be choosy about who she hires and she's very good at the interview process to select the best, interpersonally-skilled candidates.
The business clientele love her tastes, and success follows.

She markets on companionship only, states on her website that intimate relations with clients is against the rules, and has her employees sign a contract to that effect. Then, two adults have a perfectly legal date. Companionship sells well, apparently.

 

[VancityDivas]

Now I just have to chime in...

1)selective hiring; many agencies here or 'agencies' here will literally say yes to a girl Cuz she looks good... very bad way of doing it. Each girl must meet a criteria
1 a) credibility which is built by these hand chosen pro's
b) as badger John stated but more briefly, fair division of earnings.

Happy Employees means happy Customers means happy agency!!

2)The good people of perb and other boards informing their virtual friends the good and the bad with these agency girls. Don't be greedy!

3) Respect the employee so they want to stay with you

4) Low volume providers generally means happier with each client rather than too busy with back to back bookings and a bad attitude.

5) Large Roster

It takes quiet a bit of work and time but many girls and many operators fail to see the potential and let short term greed and profits ruin their reputation

Thus above point is quite the problem with the many providers in Vancouver and the industry overall from everything I've seen in the business.

I have no problem contributing this because there's nothing better than competition it breeds progress and let's face it, TO BE THE BEST YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE BEST

(The above thoughts are of my own and correct )