Vancouver Province: B.C. women pickier than most in Canada

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B.C. women pickier than most in Canada

By Cheryl Chan, The Province



He seemed nice, so when he asked her out to dinner, she said yes.

But when his appetizer got cold because he couldn’t stop talking about himself, Vancouver’s Amy Chan decided a second date is out of the question.

“If we can’t have an engaging conversation, there’s no way we’re going to be able to get past this to another date,” said the 31-year-old luxury hotel reviewer and relationship columnist.

In Vancouver’s perennially frosty dating scene, men are often called out for being too passive while women have a reputation of being too picky.

Results of a national survey commissioned by online dating website Match.com probing what single Canadians found attractive and unattractive in potential mates suggest B.C. women are indeed pickier than women in the rest of Canada.

In one question respondents were asked to choose any or all out of 14 attributes or habits they would consider a first date deal breaker. Across the board — from showing up late to eating with mouth open, from talking about money to not picking up the tab — B.C. women ticked off more no-nos than their national counterparts.

B.C.’s top deal breakers for women are poor hygiene (82 per cent), being distracted by a mobile device (74 per cent), and talking about sexual history and being rude to wait staff (72 per cent).

Canadian women were more forgiving of dates who constantly checked their smartphones, with only 59 per cent considering it a deal breaker compared to almost 3/4 of B.C. women. Almost 60 per cent of B.C. women polled said they wouldn’t go out on a second date with men who ate with their mouths open, compared to 46 per cent nationally.

Longtime Vancouver matchmaker Susan Seminew said women are naturally more picky then men, but “Vancouver women have kicked it up a notch.”

She’s seen women who obsess over a partner’s looks, height, and income. Some have illusions of nabbing a tall, dark Prince Charming, and have unrealistic expectations.

“Women analyze everything,” said Seminew. “We are looking for reasons to dismiss.” Her advice: Relax. “You don’t fall in love with a list. You fall in love with the person.”

Seminew also urged women to be more forgiving of a first date faux pas.

“First dates are not the best barometer,” she said. “Some guys tank the first date. They’re nervous. As long as he doesn’t do something really rude or obnoxious, and there’s intrigue there, give him a chance.”

Chan said there are women who zero in on the superficial stuff, but maintains there is an important distinction between being picky and having standards, including expecting proper etiquette and manners and consideration from your date.

If anything, added Chan, Vancouver women should up their standards, not lower it, especially in today’s casual hook-up culture.

“The more women accept that — it’s fine that our dates aren’t really dates, or you just go for coffee and it’s never a proper date — the more guys are going to keep on doing that,” she said.

“If you up your standards and yourself, it elevates the norm to a better bar.

“And we need to raise the bar in Vancouver.”

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http://www.theprovince.com/news/women+pickier+than+most+Canada/9506251/story.html
Oh Vancouver...... :)
 

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I once met this really attractive woman with 3 kids and she couldn't figure out why men didn't call for a second date.

And that's why women need to be fussy.

You marry a jerk, you divorce; you end up single with 2 or 3 kids - where does that leave you?

It's almost impossible to date a woman with kids.

What a freakin nightmare most of the time.
 

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If you're single in your 30's and it's not by choice, the next time you take a selfie, take a good, long, hard look at it. Because it isn't the opposite (or same) sex that's wrong. It's you. This is a comment at both sexes.



Oh that's classic. I'm going to assume that's a hypocritical deal breaker because I can honestly say that I can probably count on one, MAYBE two hands--over the past few years-- the amount of times I have seen a person without any electronic device in their hand, like me (when on some form of transit).
I was on the road this week and was in a restaurant for dinner. I watched the young couples around me and they weren't talking very much but when they were, they were glued to their phones. All I could think was this 30 something generation was doomed. It reminded me Seinfeld was here and he equated going on your phone while in the midst of a conversation was the equivalent of picking up a hard cover book and reading while talking. Not good.
 
I was on the road this week and was in a restaurant for dinner. I watched the young couples around me and they weren't talking very much but when they were, they were glued to their phones. All I could think was this 30 something generation was doomed. It reminded me Seinfeld was here and he equated going on your phone while in the midst of a conversation was the equivalent of picking up a hard cover book and reading while talking. Not good.
I hear you. I eat out all the time and I feel so bad for the young men sitting there watching his date on her phone, it is less often I see men on their phone..
 

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I was on the road this week and was in a restaurant for dinner. I watched the young couples around me and they weren't talking very much but when they were, they were glued to their phones. All I could think was this 30 something generation was doomed. It reminded me Seinfeld was here and he equated going on your phone while in the midst of a conversation was the equivalent of picking up a hard cover book and reading while talking. Not good.
they were probably texting each other, even though they were at the same table. you know so they could "lol", or "lmao". given up on women in this area myself. it's all about status and possessions. personality doesn't matter because women these days can't focus on a man long enough to see it.
 

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Almost 60 per cent of B.C. women polled said they wouldn’t go out on a second date with men who ate with their mouths open, compared to 46 per cent nationally.
Ummm....why is this number not 99%?
 

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I hear you. I eat out all the time and I feel so bad for the young men sitting there watching his date on her phone, it is less often I see men on their phone..
Well, the reason she is on the phone is that the conversation (or prospect thereof) with her date is less than enthralling. It is a passive aggressive message to him.
 

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Taco Truck Test! If you have a taco truck in your area take her to one and she how picky she is and if she will eat like a commoner. I love Mexican food from these places. Never seen one in BC however.
2nd test is Vancouver's old Chinatown, if she says its too dirty to go to she is probably a PITA to please. Believe me there are Chinese woman from China and once they get Vancouver entitled think they are too good for Old Chinatown.
 

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I think we are so glued with the cell phones we want to know what others are doing. I think the women get jealoused if someone else is having better time then her.
 
Well, the reason she is on the phone is that the conversation (or prospect thereof) with her date is less than enthralling. It is a passive aggressive message to him.
And that is why guys want to take you out for coffee first. To see if its worth buying you dinner.
 

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I once left a date as soon as dinner was over, because she kept checking her phone during our meal (deal breaker for me).
and no, I wasn't a total bore, I can hold conversations rather well. In fact, I did most of the asking.
honestly, I had a feeling she was a bit HM. so, prob good thing it didn't go to Date 2.
but she was hot I tell ya. resembles a little bit like Evelyn Lin. yummy, yummy.

oh well, I'm sure to have better luck next time.

hope St Valentines was good to everyone today.
 

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I once left a date as soon as dinner was over, because she kept checking her phone during our meal (deal breaker for me).
and no, I wasn't a total bore, I can hold conversations rather well. In fact, I did most of the asking.
honestly, I had a feeling she was a bit HM. so, prob good thing it didn't go to Date 2.
but she was hot I tell ya. resembles a little bit like Evelyn Lin. yummy, yummy.

oh well, I'm sure to have better luck next time.

hope St Valentines was good to everyone today.
LMAO did the same thing, but left during dinner.
First date, and she spent 30 minutes on her phone, so I got up to use the men's room, and then just left, paid my share to the waiter, and told him to let her know I left. He thought it was funny.
 

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LMAO did the same thing, but left during dinner.
First date, and she spent 30 minutes on her phone, so I got up to use the men's room, and then just left, paid my share to the waiter, and told him to let her know I left. He thought it was funny.
you should've just left, never mind your share.

I was in Starbuck's recently&saw 4 young guys, early 20's(I won't comment on ethnicity cuz I'm a multicultural type of person and that sort of thing
doesn't matter to me)
All 4 of these gents were deeply engrossed with their toys, er, phones.Not a word was spoken while I was watching(discreetly,of course)
For all I know they might've been sending messages to each other,or seeing who could find the most graphic photo for their circle jerk later in the evening.
 

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Taco Truck Test! If you have a taco truck in your area take her to one and she how picky she is and if she will eat like a commoner. I love Mexican food from these places. Never seen one in BC however.
Really? You've never seen a taco truck in BC? There are 3 different ones that I go to regularly in downtown Vancouver alone... I have no idea how many there are total, but there are at least a few. Arturo's Mexico To Go is my favorite.
 
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