The war on men

Tugela

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So why do you think there is a 'war on men'? Maybe you could explain your opinion to us instead of childish personal attacks, as usual.
So, let's hear why society is waging a 'war on men' and why men are under attack.
Equally, why do people think society is waging a war on women? We hear that frequently, usually in association with problems women face in general. If that can be said about women, why do believe that the same can't also be said about men, who face problems of their own, albeit different ones?

Are you diminishing or trivializing issues men face?
 

Miss*Bijou

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Equally, why do people think society is waging a war on women? We hear that frequently, usually in association with problems women face in general. If that can be said about women, why do believe that the same can't also be said about men, who face problems of their own, albeit different ones?

Are you diminishing or trivializing issues men face?

OK please point me to a post of mine where I say there is a war on women. You won't because I've never said that. To be honest, while I would disagree with the statement if it refers to all women in Canada for example, I have heard it from women speaking specifically about disturbing trends over the last few years in the US, in some States more than others. In that context, it's meant as a war on women's rights (ie rights they won long ago and that are now being taken away from them) so I would have to agree as no one can ignore or deny it is clearly a deliberate, coordinated effort to attack these rights. I may not think it's the best way to call it but I generally think the idea behind it is accurate. Obviously that doesn't really affect or apply to me or Canadian women so no, I have never and would never make that statement. I'm not sure why you are claiming I support or agree with that considering I've never said anything like that.

I'm responding to an explicit claim made by the author or the article, not some general comment made by some random man or men. And I'm not claiming that is what all men believe and asking anyone here to justify it - which is what you're doing btw.


As for trivializing or diminishing issues men face.. Again, is there a specific comment I made that made you come to that conclusion? Because I think I was pretty clear that I agree there are some issues that are valid and need to be addressed.. I just disagreed with the claim there was some 'war against men' and i made fun of the ridiculous 'evidence' the author of the article used to 'prove' that such a war existed. Are you saying you also believe there's a 'war against men'?
 

AA_Train

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its true, i have supported lots of men through the years who have been unfairly treated or experienced discrimination.

look at the way men's bodies are used in advertising....would a group of men oogling a female delivery girl who was scantily clad and drenched in sweat be acceptable in a coke commercial? no the feminazi's would be up in arms. but its perfectly ok for females to do this to a male delivery person? or how about the old spice commercial? talk about wrapping up all of the stereo types into one....

and in lysol commercials, its always a dirty boy infecting a pure clean little girl....

what the hell kind of message is that?
This is a perfect term to describe most feminists these days. I Have always believed that feminism is not about more equity for women and other marginalized peoples at it claims, but rather for woman to become the dominant gender. Any Ism believes that whatever the prefix is should be the dominant ideology in society. Eg Communism

Just addressing this point. Men are being objectified in advertising....but you don't see hoards of men lobbying their government crying out that it's degrading and that we shouldn't be just pieces of meat. Partially because we men don't give a shit....and partially because society would think once we complain, that we're not being tough enough to stand a bit of advertising. Same deal as guys getting raped. There's a double standard.
This is true because guys are less concerned with what others think of them than women are. But as Susi mentioned before, it is not a level playing field. I have no issue with men being objectified as long as women can be in the same manner. My other favourite double Standards is women's only gyms and fitness clubs. If men tried to do that, it would be discriminatory. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Ahhhhh, a match made in heaven. :cheer2:
Should the two of you end up dating, I would like to offer my services to judge which one of you is more capable of greater indignation.

For those who wish to place wager, my money is on Bijou as she can always play the “Woman” card that normisanas can not.
According to normisanas' own logic, as the playing field is not level to begin with, he can not protest the inequity of the move.
My LOL of the day!!!! It would almost be like when Harry Met Sally :pound:

The biggest problem with society today is we are all concerned with how others feel about things and it limits are ability to get things done. There's this need to make everyone feel included all the time or be labeled as "intolerant" or "insensitive." It's like that episode of The Simpsons when they separate the boys and girls atthe school in order to increase the girls math scores. The boys learned regular math while the girls discussed how numbers made them feel. 1+1=2 not whatever number you want it to be :rolleyes:

The truth I have learned is that your feelings really only matter to you and the ones you care about. Feelings are an indulgence. We need to indulge them for our health but at the end of the day, whether you are on top of the world or at the bottom of the barrel, life goes on and the world isn't going to stop because you had a good or bad day We should teach our children, both boys and girls, is how to deal with their feelings and to have outlets for them to burn off any pent up energy. We need to acknowledge the difference we have, be it gender, race religion or whatever, yet not elevate one above the other. Not to fit a mold but make one and to be able to reward and discipline them based on the situation, not some blanket one size fits all rule.
 
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