Do I have ED?

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Hi, I was wondering how you know if you have ED or if its something else? For the past 4-6 months I have not been able to stay hard with women (escorts). I get hard for a few minutes then it goes away. This ends up being a waste of money since I'm not able to receive full service (but pay for it). And the girl thinks I dont find her attractive even though they are way out of my league. My reasoning is that it could be due to pre-workout stimulants but I laid them off and it still didn't work. Any help is appreciated, I am 21 by the way so thats why I'm trying to stay away from Viagra/Cialis but if you guys think that would be my best option, I don't mind trying it.

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Isn't this a better question to ask your doctor who will refer you to a specialist like say a urologist?
 
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I best person to ask would problem be your doctor IMO. Good luck with it.
I agree but I just want to get some advice/ideas from others who have experience. Reason I didn't go straight to my doctor is because he is close with my family and tells my family everything I come in for. For example, I got my ear wax cleaned out a few months ago and he told my parents the next time they went to go see him. I have thought about walk-in doctors but I don't know if my main doctor would find out and I've heard doctors at walk-in clinics are not as good.
 

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I agree but I just want to get some advice/ideas from others who have experience. Reason I didn't go straight to my doctor is because he is close with my family and tells my family everything I come in for. For example, I got my ear wax cleaned out a few months ago and he told my parents the next time they went to go see him. I have thought about walk-in doctors but I don't know if my main doctor would find out and I've heard doctors at walk-in clinics are not as good.
First, probably a Health Nurse question but.... Are you a minor? Telling your family your medical info??? It is very unprofessional of your doctor disclosing any medical history, no matter how trivial, to anybody but you, without your consent. I would report the Doctor to the College of Physicians in a blink of an eye.
Clinic doctors are just as qualified, in some case more qualified, than an "Office" doctor.
You should speak to A doctor and have yourself tested for Diabetes, among other things, to make sure there is no underlying condition. A clinic doctor could then refer you to a urologist if needed.

Unless you indicate your family doctor on the application at the clinic, or request they be cc'd on any results, your family doctor will be none the wiser.
 

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Perhaps you are putting to much pressure on yourself?

Are past failures in your head when you are with escorts? There is a lot to the libido + desire + self confidence that have to be all aligned just right or something can go wrong.

After a break up I would sometimes have her in my head and my dates with certain escorts wouldn't go 100% according to plan.

I just backed off for a while and had some self talk about the relationship being completely over.

A clear head is important.
 
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First, probably a Health Nurse question but.... Are you a minor? Telling your family your medical info??? It is very unprofessional of your doctor disclosing any medical history, no matter how trivial, to anybody but you, without your consent. I would report the Doctor to the College of Physicians in a blink of an eye.
Clinic doctors are just as qualified, in some case more qualified, than an "Office" doctor.
You should speak to A doctor and have yourself tested for Diabetes, among other things, to make sure there is no underlying condition. A clinic doctor could then refer you to a urologist if needed.

Unless you indicate your family doctor on the application at the clinic, or request they be cc'd on any results, your family doctor will be none the wiser.
no im not a minor but my doctor is overly friendly with my family. I realize walk in doctors are just as qualified but i've heard times when they were not as useful as regular doctors. I'll look into it. thanks

Perhaps you are putting to much pressure on yourself?

Are past failures in your head when you are with escorts? There is a lot to the libido + desire + self confidence that have to be all aligned just right or something can go wrong.

After a break up I would sometimes have her in my head and my dates with certain escorts wouldn't go 100% according to plan.

I just backed off for a while and had some self talk about the relationship being completely over.

A clear head is important.
I've never had this problem before. I've been going to SPs since i was 18 or 19 so its not like this is something completely new to me. I've never been in a relationship with any girl so I dont stress about that or anything.
 

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why not go to R&T a few times?no worries about losing wood cuz she's working on it full-time.

2-3 sessions may help get ur mojo back.
 
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why not go to R&T a few times?no worries about losing wood cuz she's working on it full-time.

2-3 sessions may help get ur mojo back.
sorry whats R&T?

also, do you think there would be any SPs out there who would be ok with seeing me but charging me only if we actually do full service? Because the last few times i've went, i've only gotta BJ and thats pretty much it even though I paid for a full hour of full service. I'm guessing most SPs would think im just trying to get away with full service with the price of a BJ though.
 
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Dude, I advise you to drop that line right away.
There was a recent thread where someone complained about finishing early and/or not doing everything on the menu and asking if it was ok to get a discount.

It didn’t go well with every single SP (if memory serves) and most of the Pooners jumping on him.

If you edit/blank out the post, I'll also remove it in my reply.
I dont know how to delete but i'll keep that in mind. Im not asking for a discount or anything and I never have because I respect the SPs time but it might be better to not go to SPs at all until im sure I maintain an erection.
 
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In regards to your questions about escorts charging only for full service if it happens . Do you go to the same escorts or different ones ? this question is better for those ladies that you see regularly and I don't think it's inappropriate as long as you communicate the issue respectfully . Most ladies like to help out their clients when they have a problem and want to solve it.
I agree with Lavinia and ReedRothschild which made an excellent point about getting some blood work because underlying medical issues should be ruled out especially before taking medication the pills are not cheap and there are side effects .

I don't blame your discouragement but this is not a forever thing . Try to remain positive on this journey because it will get better I don't think there is a sexually active person who does not or has not experienced this at one time of their life .
The most i've went to the same escort is about 3 or 4 times. Im not sure if that is good enough to approach her about this, she will probably think i'm just trying to use her or something. And the 3-4 times was over 2 years (first time went when i was 19 and then last time was again in December last year). The rest were usually 1 time or 2 times max. I'm not really well off so the escorts I do go to are usually in the $120-$180 range so they usually don't remember you if you've only gone to them once or twice. I'm guessing it would be different if I went to SPs who charge $300+.
 

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yo tobe... good to see ya back trolling the board again, dude!!

about that family doctor thing... if yer not bs'ing about that too - next time you see him you put it right to him, and not too kindly either, that the very next time you get wind of him divulging your medical information to ANYBODY, your family included, you will definitely be registering a complaint with the College of Physicians and Surgeons, and you will be asking for an official investigation into his practice... period!! don't fuck around with these assholes - he could ruin your life!

but the best bet would be to get your own family doctor, someone you can trust who doesn't even know your family and could give a shit less about them - i mean you say you're 21 now - time to step out a bit
 

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First of all, what you need to go do is see a doctor and I would HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend going to see a nutritionist, because more often than not, ED has a lot to do with your diet and magic little pills that doctors like to push are not the answer.

Remember one thing, doctors are have VERY minimum nutrition education, if any at all and if they are not educated in nutrition they love to prescribe magic pills and often discount diet/nutrition as the problem. In fact doctors were often told that people who practised herbal and nutritional remedies were engaging in witch craft.

Taken from WebMD

Ginseng. Korean red ginseng has long been used to stimulate male sexual function, but few studies have tried systematically to confirm its benefits. In one 2002 study involving 45 men with significant ED, the herb helped alleviate symptoms of erectile dysfunction and brought "enhanced penile tip rigidity." Experts aren't sure how ginseng might work, though it's thought to promote nitric oxide synthesis. "I would recommend ginseng [for men with ED]," says Espinosa. Discuss with your doctor before taking it since ginseng can interact with drugs you may already be taking and cause allergic reactions.

Pomegranate juice. Drinking antioxidant-rich pomegranate juice has been shown to have numerous health benefits, including a reduced risk for heart disease and high blood pressure. Does pomegranate juice also protect against ED? No proof exists, but results of a study published in 2007 were promising. The authors of this small-scale pilot study called for additional research, saying that larger-scale studies might prove pomegranate juice's effectiveness against erectile dysfunction. "I tell my patients to drink it," says Espinosa. "It could help ED, and even if it doesn't, it has other health benefits."


Horny Goat Weed. Horny goat weed and related herbs have purportedly been treatments for sexual dysfunction for years. Italian researchers found that the main compound in horny goat weed, called icariin, acted in a similar way as drugs like Viagra.

Ginkgo biloba. Known primarily as a treatment for cognitive decline, ginkgo has also been used to treat erectile dysfunction -- especially cases caused by the use of certain antidepressant medications. But the evidence isn't very convincing. One 1998 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that it did work. But a more rigorous study, published in Human Pharmacology in 2002, failed to replicate this finding. "Ginkgo has come out of fashion in the past few years," says Ronald Tamler, MD, assistant professor of medicine and co-director of the men's health program at Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City. "That's because it doesn't do much. I can say that in my practice, I have not seen ginkgo work -- ever."
 

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bonerbiceps.....I think you've been given sound suggestions here by a variety of people.

I'd definitely say get a new doc,preferably a younger one.

Some of these docs can be arrogant,condescending arsewipes.

for a good R&T, there's lots of amp's(Asian massage parlors) where R&T is available

if the Cambodian lady is still working she'll get you off,she could resuscitate the trouser-snake of a cadaver!

also,Helen's on Main st is usually good,I believe,from rdg this board.

I saw one girl there for tease&toss,great young Chinese girl who has,sadly,retired.

good luck!
 

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Dude, I advise you to drop that line right away.
There was a recent thread where someone complained about finishing early and/or not doing everything on the menu and asking if it was ok to get a discount.

It didn’t go well with every single SP (if memory serves) and most of the Pooners jumping on him.

If you edit/blank out the post, I'll also remove it in my reply.
Hard to say. I went to see an SP and paid for FS when I couldn't achieve it she gave me $100 back. I certainly think SP's will charge you less of you don't get FS, so I would simply tell the SP the situation before engaging her services. If she don't want to see you under the circumstances of a two price situation, move on, surely others would.

as for clinics I went to one once for the same problem and they asked me if I wanted this information forwarded to my regular doctor or not. Since she knows our whole family and I have a business relationship with her, I asked that they not forward her this info. So a clinic is a good idea.

Oh and the answer to your question is yes, you have ED. It's the why you need to now ask.
 
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You might want to look at what's referred to as porn induced ED.

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/can-porn-cause-erectile-dysfunction-pt-1
This could be the possible problem. Since I dont have a consistent source for sex (e.g.: a girlfriend/FWB), I rely on porn quite often to help me get thru. I'll check out the videos. Is there any suggested maximum porn usage per day/week? From a quick google search, i'm finding a lot of different answers.

Why not book with a provider who has a Non-FS package, and then ask her (IN ADVANCE) if possible, can you upgrade on the spot? I got the reputation for awhile as an ED specialist (the entire reason I *have* a Non-FS package mind you) and this was never a problem in my eyes. As long as the person is up front with you, then you can work around it as a provider.

As far as what to do about your ED issues - have you tried L-Argenine? If you're working out a lot, I'd imagine you may be taking it already though - if that's the case, I'd go right to the doctor because usually on LA your dick is so hard it could cut glass. If your doctor is violating privacy and you refuse to see another, when you go to him tell him in no uncertain terms if your parents hear a word of this you're reporting him.
Never took L-Arginine but I've taken pro-hormones in the past (way before I started having troubles with ED) and am planning on running my first gear cycle this coming fall.

Do you still have the Non-FS/ FS packages where you could upgrade on the spot?

I called a few girls off erslist and they think i'm either joking or trying to get full-service for the price of a BJ.
 
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Unfortunately, your story is quite common. A young guy I interacted with on another forum was 23 years old, in great shape, but, no girlfriend, heavy porn user plagued by ED issues with the escorts he saw, and that was even after he dosed himself with Viagra. His problem wasn't physical, it was psychological. His porn usage had led directly to his escort usage. Escorts were essentially real life for porn for him. Last time I checked, he had deteriorated badly and was getting drunk and picking fights with guys who were with their girlfriends. He had not developed any social skills with respect to women and his ED was destroying what little self-esteem he had left.

The process that is talked about to "cure" the ED is called rebooting. This is far from scientific and the success or lack thereof is largely anecdotal. But, you're talking eliminating porn completely. None, zero, nada. Some take a very hard line approach, and that is, no masturbation as well during the "rebooting" process. How long? 90 days seems to be the current badge of honour among participants. But, the problem is, nobody really seems to have a clue.

I've personally done 90 days as above in what is referred to as hard mode, complete sexual abstinence. But, for me, it was more of a spiritual cleansing type thing. I don't have ED, so I didn't have that type of pressure affecting me. Its no picnic, that's for sure, but you will learn the true meaning of the little head ruling the big head. Little head almost won, real fucking close. Some posters talked about "flatlining", where they lost all sexual interest. Didn't happen to me, doesn't happen for everyone.

There are some sites on the net that specifically deal with this issue. I'm loathe to recommend them, however, because of the fanatical nature of many of the participants, and because so much of what goes down is like the blind leading the blind. You will learn about your body, if nothing else. Good luck.
I wouldnt mind doing this. The reason I see escorts is similar to the gentleman you mentioned (porn, poor social skills etc). I've been able to go 4-5 days without porn but after that I start doing stupid things. Only reason I think is because I work from home so its too easy to get on the computer and search up some porn. I would love to try the 90 day challenge.
 

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only advice is to try jerking off. if you can get hard choking the chicken it's probably psychological. if not then you should probably see a urologist. either ways Viagra is probably the easiest way out. personally I just have a million thoughts running through my mind when I have sex, escort or not (it's an anxiety thing). Before getting a Viagra prescription I would get hard for a few minutes and once the condom goes on its just goes dead soft. It was so frustrating I just decided to let go of my ego and asked my GP to prescribe me. I thank Pfizer everyday for inventing the little blue pill. Never tried Cialis but I hear it's pretty much just as good and you don't have to plan ahead unlike Viagra.
 
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