Luongo to stay

[bcneil]

bcneil = Mod 3

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LMAO, that was just a paste from perbatory. BJ is famous for this sort of nonsense.
The only person in the city impressed that we got a 9th pick, after 2 full years of speculation.
This situation CLEARY got worse and worse. But we are all idiots for not being stoked we got Bo .

 

[bcneil]

How is this drama?? or flaming.. I just mentioned that perhaps triple B is typical of most Canuck chicken little fans.

You feel the need to start arguments and insults in many threads. Then go off complaining about trolls.
You are trolling me, cause I pointed out the success of both Hodgson and Grabner make Gillis look worse in the eyes of fans.
As a member of the Canucks forum, I can tell you one thing. There are dozens of threads about Hodgson vs Kassian, and how Gillis screwed up.
Literally 1000s of posts on the topic. But you are going to argue this is not the case.

 

[BORKO]

you guys are un-fucking real. Please give it a fucking rest.

1) Luongo is still one of the top 5 goaltenders in the NHL actively. We don't lose anything by keeping Roberto Luongo as a starter, and moving Cory.

2) Roberto's contract was a deal that was set at the same time as many other long term deal has been his cap hit is only 5.3 million per season. still low considering others out there in the same position.

3) Roberto Luongo was the starter before the emergence of Cory Schneider. Roberto Luongo goes back to being the starter.

4) They knew one of the two of them would have been traded. Last Year and this year. So the deal back for Luongo from Toronto was CRAP! Basically the same deal the kings got for Jonathan Bernier, except Frattin wasn't in the deal.

5)Trading Cory Schneider made more sense. Doesn't have a no trade clause can be moved everywhere/ anywhere in the NHL. Is signed for a good amount and has a couple of years at that salary.

6) Yes it would have been nice to get a bucket load of Talent back for either Cory or Luongo. But as we've seen THAT wasn't going to happen.

7) The Canucks moved up to a top ten position in the draft and selected a player in Bo Horvat that some scouts had ranked going as high as 4th to 9th.
He's a big punishing 6'0" 200lb physical for checking force down the middle. He has size, can skate and has scored some IMPORTANT timely goals in his career to this point.

8) 29 other teams in the NHL knew that the canucks had to trade or move either Roberto luongo or Cory schnieder this off season. So talk about your hands being tied in making a deal.

9) Had the Canucks moved Schnieder to Edmonton. for the 7th overall pick a second rounder and a prospect.. You guys would have been crying because we traded him within the division. To a division Rival that we will play 4-6 times??? a season.. hmmm

10) We move him to New Jersey. It solidifies Jersey's goaltending after Brodeur and the Canucks will only play him twice a year.

11) In moving Cory to the East Coast he's closer to his family and closer to Boston his HOME!.

12) Cory Schneider is an up and coming talent as a starter who may or may not have reached the top of his game. Time will tell but this Bo Horvat kid is going to be something very very good for this team in the next 2 years.

I think there are 2 main issues people have here, first, that Bo Horvat isn't a sexy pick like someone like Nichushkin and second, people don't think they got enough value for Cory Schneider.

To address the first issue, I think Bo Horvat on his own will be a great pick if he reaches his potential and turns into a Mike Richards or Ryan O'Reilly type player. It will be a fantastic trade if he turns into someone like that, but I think the other side is if he turns into a Boyd Gordon type, which is a fine player to have but not someone you'd want to take in the top 10. From what I read Bo Horvat (or BoHo for some people that were CoHo fans) is one of the safest picks of the draft in that has the size and complete game to make the NHL for sure, it's just a matter of whether it is as a 3rd line centre or a 1st line centre. Another thing is that the Canucks already picked a less talented, lower end version of Horvat last year in Brendan Gaunce and I'm curious how much of Bo Horvat's offensive numbers are because he played with Max Domi. Personally, I wanted the Canucks to draft Curtis Lazar who I understand to be a complete, character player but more of a scorer and less of a playmaker and less phyiscally developed than Horvat, but I guess that wasn't meant to be as he wasn't good enough for 9th overall but too good for 24th. I do trust the Canucks' OHL scouts better than their WHL scouts though.

For the second issue, I think it really depends on what other teams were offering. If Edmonton really did offer what Darren Dreger was saying with a 1st round pick, top prospect/roster player and 2nd round pick, I would like to know what that player was Edmonton offered. I doubt it was one of the big 4 because I'd assume Gillis would have driven Schneider to the airport himself if he could have gotten RNH or Yakupov, I doubt it was Gagner because he probably will make too much and I would think it would have been someone like Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson who I wouldn't have any interest in. If it was a true prospect rather than a young roster player and the Edmonton offer was the 7th + Oscar Klefbom + the 37th, then maybe Gillis should have taken that offer, because Horvat, Klefbom and Zykov in addition to Shinkaruk is quite the sexy prospect cupboard. I also wanted Gillis to explore trades with Philadelphia because they can't have too much confidence in Steven Mason and I would have liked something to have been worked out around 2 of Matt Read, Sean Couturier and the 11th overall as that would have helped the team more today. I think Couturier is already well on the way to what the Canucks hope Horvat could become. I would also have liked the Canucks to have looked at acquiring Nino Neiderriter as he was basically given away, but I guess Gillis had questions about his character.

Oh and I'm hoping Jordan Subban grows 4 inches and puts on 30 pounds in the next 4 years.

 

[bcneil]

LOL the CDC.. Canucks forum which has a grade 8-9 level of everything.. BAHAHAHAHA.. I used to be a member there many years ago until I figured out most the membership was 13 years old... LOL and I left.

I was a long time member on Several other HF boards, Sportsnet, etc etc. For years. Just because a few fans that are too busy being "ohh the sky is falling all the time" Vancouver fans are the worst. Why because they think they are all knowing. Fans in Edmonton and Calgary are far better, they understand the game. Fans in Montreal get it.. because hockey is hockey. Leafs fans are out to lunch because it's all about the leafs 24/7 365.

Kassian will grow and emerge into a top 6 NHL player within the next 2-3 years. Cody has a shot because of who he's playing with. All trades unless they are superstar for superstar can't be looked at as who won/ lost the deal. especially when you are dealing with prospect, young players. Sure Cody went to Buffalo and thrived. Why wouldn't he. Yes he was a very good very talented player, just he had NO PLACE TO PLAY HERE! what part of that comment CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND!

He didn't want to be here. The day the Canucks signed Malhotra and got Paulsson via trade Hodgson's agent went ballistic. Same thing when Jordan Schroeder started to develop. hodgson had no future with the franchise. Schroeder can play wing or center. Cody is a center pivot, he excels at that. We have Kesler and henrik Sedin. Kesler won the Selke that year and Henrik won the hart and the Art Ross.
Cody's done well in Buffalo sure why 1) because of the players he's with and 2) they don't really have anybody else to be that top line center. He's a lot like Derek Roy was when he was in Buffalo. Hodgson reads the ice very well. He always has. Comparing hodgson to kassian can't be done yet. Give that time.

You dont seem to get it. Your opinion of the CDC has nothing to do with the fact that the majority of members there did not like the Kassian trade and still don't

Wether of not Cody wanted to play here or would get ice time isn't a concern. So blabbing away about it is silly.
Its a simple fact that Cody Hodgson trade was seen as a negative by a huge majority of Canucks fans.
Hence it made Gillis look worse, than if Cody hadn't had great numbers with the new team.

You can argue this with red herrings like Cody's linemates in Buffalo are better.
If you think that proves Canuck fans liked that trade I guess.

 

[BORKO]

You dont seem to get it. Your opinion of the CDC has nothing to do with the fact that the majority of members there did not like the Kassian trade and still don't

Wether of not Cody wanted to play here or would get ice time isn't a concern. So blabbing away about it is silly.
Its a simple fact that Cody Hodgson trade was seen as a negative by a huge majority of Canucks fans.
Hence it made Gillis look worse, than if Cody hadn't had great numbers with the new team.

You can argue this with red herrings like Cody's linemates in Buffalo are better.
If you think that proves Canuck fans liked that trade I guess.

I think most Canucks fans think Mike Gillis gets ripped off in trades. Particularly the Ballard and Hodgson trades. I think he has had a few good ones as well with the Ehrhoff trade being the best by far but the Higgins and Lapierre trades were also pretty good and if Booth was ever healthy I think that would be a good trade. He has had some good signings as well with getting guys like Jason Garrison and Dan Hamhuis at slightly below market value.

I really think fans do need to be patient with Kassian as everyone always says players of his type take longer to develop and learn how to use their big frame properly, my concerns are the rumours that they have had about him partying too much, but it depends if it's an issue where it's hurting him like I assume what happened with Mark Bell and Harold Druken or if it's a young dude having fun and he can get it under control like Mike Richards, Jeff Carter and Patrick Kane have. I think it is not really a red herring that Hodgson's linemates are better in Buffalo since I think he was playing with Pominville and Vanek, while Kassian had a good first 10 games or so with the Sedins that made his jersey sell out at Rogers Arena and then he got dumped down to the fourth line with guys like Sestito and Weise. If Zach Kassian can put everything together and turn himself into a version of Milan Lucic, then I think Canucks fans will be quite happy with that trade.

 

[deathreborn]

so now the canucks have 4 million in cap space with only 16 players signed. they need to move edler before his no-trade kicks in. ballard will need to be bought out. those two moves free up 9.5 million. so that gives them 13.5 million to try and fill the roster with 7 more players. in other words a million here, a million there on bottom end free agents.

 

[BORKO]

so now the canucks have 4 million in cap space with only 16 players signed. they need to move edler before his no-trade kicks in. ballard will need to be bought out. those two moves free up 9.5 million. so that gives them 13.5 million to try and fill the roster with 7 more players. in other words a million here, a million there on bottom end free agents.

I guess they can't drive a big dump truck full of money to Nathan Horton's house then...

 

[badbadboy]

Talk about hind sight being 20/ fucking 20. again un fking real.. compare apples to apples not apples to fking pine trees people!

Again, you are not the only one with an opinion. If you think you are, buy a copy of VBulletin and start your own forum. You will be the only member.

1) Cody Hodgson had NO CHANCE of being Vancouver's first or second line Center. We have Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler in those positions right now. We obtained a very talented hard hitting physical goal scorer in Kassian from the sabres. Kassian didn't play the full season up front on the top line with the Sedin's. He's a year younger than Cody remember, same Age as Jordan Schroeder drafted the same year 2009.

Kassian did start well but faded quickly. Where was he during the past season or in the playoffs? Win for the Sabres.

Cody was moved into a role where he was playing top line minutes with Thomas Vanek, Jason Pommenville (until the trade deadline) and several other top players on the sabres.

2) The Grabner Situation. The Canucks took a chance on selecting Grabner. I was actually surprised when they did in the first round that year. I was hoping for Either Ty Wishart, Claude Giroux or Chris Stewart who all went later in the draft. Grabner had speed but as a greyhound he played like one even in the WHL... he was dealt with Steve Bernier for Kieth Ballard and Victor Oreskovich. Then remember what Florida's GM the man who built the chicago blackhawks.... Ex Canuck 1st pick overall Dale Tallon did. he waived Grabner. The islanders picked him up for NOTHING from Florida. That's where he found his scoring touch playing with John Tavares. His goal totals have dropped in following years though and his production is on a down swing.

Again, Canucks gave up on a prospect too early. He could have grown within our organization.


Under a new head coach in John Torterella, I look for Ryan, Kesler, David Booth and Kieth Ballard to have huge bounce back years.

Both Ballard and Booth will be gone before September. Ballard will be bought out at > $4 M and performance wise being on the low end he is not worth the $4M.

It's spelled KEITH. It's not always I before E, look it up. You might learn something.

 

[bcneil]

so now the canucks have 4 million in cap space with only 16 players signed. they need to move edler before his no-trade kicks in. ballard will need to be bought out. those two moves free up 9.5 million. so that gives them 13.5 million to try and fill the roster with 7 more players. in other words a million here, a million there on bottom end free agents.

Does anyone know when the Edler's no trade clause officially kicks in? I know July 1st.
But does that mean 12am eastern time? Like 2 hours away?
If he stays I think Booth and Ballard will both have to go. With only one or the other going that leaves 8.5 cap space. But with 8 spots to fill. With Tanev, Lappy and the future backup goalie to sign.

 

[bcneil]

So you have a player that is sour and doesn't want to be here. his agent and his father dealing with Gillis. You have a player that had no immediate future with an organization at his position because 1 guy in front just won the Selke and the other guy in front of him just won the Art Ross and the Hart trophy... What exactly were they supposed to do with Cody.. Hmmm. this is a BUSINESS. Not a popularity contest.

Gillis moved Hodgson for those very reasons he could see exactly that. the kid is not going to get the developmental time in the NHL at his position. Jordan Schroeder is better at playing wing than center. Cody is a centerman, but a small centerman who isn't fleet of foot, he did improve that and most importantly an asset. So you move an asset to gain an Asset. Zach Kassian can play this game he's a big strong imposing winger who can hit and score goals. Kassian just needs time, just as Bertuzzi needed time to develop.

How is it red hearings. Playing on a Canucks third or 4th lines with the plumber and checkers. Or playing quality time with a former 50 goal scorer in Thomas Vanek and other top flight Buffalo players. Playing Power play #1 unit and first line minutes..
Seriously???

Its red herring cause you are endlessly ranting away about something nobody is talking about.
Nobody said Cody should not have been traded.
I said most fans were not happy about how this trade went down, and thus far are not happy with the results.

These are different concepts.
Look up the term straw-man.

 

[Mod-2]

The three of you will tone it down a bit or I am going to become active in this thread. My opinion is the only one that will count if I have to.

 

[Deep Threat]

We need NHL ready players to help us now. Not in 2-3 years. Van is turning into a gongshow

 

[Smilf]

What do InTheBum and Mike Gillis have in common?



They both liked to get fucked in the ass...:nod:

Aww shit, that really made me LOL!

 

[niteowl]

Would not be the first time the CANNOTS made bad deals.

 

[BORKO]

Remember Brendan Gaunce was selected last year with the 26th pick overall in the draft
Centre - VAN Height: 6' 2" Weight: 207 Shoots: Left Born: 25 Mar 1994 (Age 19) Birthplace: Sudbury, ON, Canada

We was also one of the best players available at that position, in the draft Henrik Samuelsson too would have been interesting. But I was happy with Guance. Think Guance, Horvat and Jensen could all be mainstays of the Canucks for years to come.. and that's not just blowing smoke. The kid I'm really happy to see them get is Hunter Shinkaruk at #24. Like that kid for a very long time. The got andrew Cassels son Cole Cassels C Oshawa Generals, OHL

Valeri Nichuskin may decide stay in Russia as he has 2 more years in a deal with Dynamo Moscow just signed in May. However he can leave the KHL for the NHL he has an out in the contract. If he doesn't make the NHL team he can return to the KHL on his open ended contract. he is very talented. I like Horvat though and I have to really admit that. #9 in the draft.. yes I could have seen him going anywhere from #7-#10 actually. Curtis Lazar is a very good player but he went at 17 to Ottawa, didn't quite think he was in the top 10..??? sort of player. Time will tell though

The guy whom I liked at #20 Detroit Red Wings - Anthony Mantha 6'4 /190 lbs. Why does Detroit always seem to be gifted with luck at drafts..lol. This kid is going to be good, he played in Val D'or popped in 50.

I didn't like any deal from the oilers. I'm not a trade inter division guy. Especially with a goalie.. Edmonton is going to be a great team. do you want to fuel that by giving them decent goaltending.. no thanks..lol

Ya Yakupov, Gagne, Eberle, hall, Nugent- hopkins, MPS, klefbom or justin Schultz. None of those guys would have in the deal so stop kidding yourself.

Philadelphia let Joacim Eriksson walk, they bought out Ilya "Breeze by Glove". Steve Mason is their guy going forward. They do have Adam Morrison (kid from Whiterock), Heeter and Hovenin. Philadelphia's pick was at 11. Maybe they felt the devils at #9/ or Dallas at #10 would have grabbed Horvat.. They probably already had the deal done prior to the draft we'll send you Cory Schneider if at your #9 pick the player we want is still on the board. Maybe Dallas was big on Horvat you never know. Canucks jumped ahead of Dallas and a lot of other teams and targeted a deal with the devils because they wanted this player. No picks no other prospect lost just a future good NHl starting goalie the Canucks cupboard is full of them. Luongo, Lack, Canata, Hoznik and now Eriksson. for a future very promising young player in Bo Horvat. The upside is high, Sure it cost us given time we will see if it was worth it..

Philly at #11 and the islanders at #15 both could have used Schneider hell even Tampa. But I can't imagine Tampa bay giving up a shot at Drouin or Seth jones at #3 for a goaltender. Even if that goalie is Schnieder.


Joacim Eriksson - The 6’1”, 189-pound goalie posted a record of 21-9-0, a 1.67 GAA, a save percentage of .931 and 5 shutouts through 30 games, guiding Skelleftea to the top of Sweden’s Elitserien in the 2012.13 season. In 10 playoff appearances, Eriksson recorded a 1.06 GAA and a .952 save percentage helping Skelleftea capture the 2012.13 Elitserien Championship.

The Gavle, Sweden native was originally selected by Philadelphia in the seventh round, 196th overall, in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. he's now a member of the Vancouver Canucks.

I think Shinkaruk is a good pick, a great pick if he reaches his top end which I understand to be a Phil Kessel/Zach Parise type player. I think the concern is that he turns into a guy like Chuck Kobasew. I am also a little concerned as to why he fell so far, as I understand their are rumours that he gave a poor interview but it could have just been his size, I'm not sure how his frame projects in terms of adding bulk. Although this draft is supposed to be a deepest since 2003 so a number of teams could have different rankings, I think this draft was basically the top 4 and then everyone else. A lot of the second rounders had first round talent and would likely have been first rounders any other year.

My issue is that both Gaunce and Horvat project as the same type of player, this isn't a huge concern for me but I would have liked the Canucks to add more top end skill, but I understand Gillis and co are big on character and work ethic.

I didn't like Mantha as a pick, I believe there was questions about his physical play, his compete level and defensive sense and I understand only the 3rd one can be fixed through coaching. I'd be concerned if he turned into a Taylor Pyatt or even an Eric Daze type player, who I remember being productive but soft. Detroit has some of the best scouts in the league though so I will give them the benefit of the doubt there.

Of the Edmonton players, I think Gagner and MPS would have been available, Gagner because he is a RFA now I think and due for a raise and MPS because although he may not be a true bust, he doesn't seem like he will reach the potential of where he was drafted. RNH, Yakupov, Hall and Eberle are going nowhere, but I think Eberle would have been a great fit and RNH would have been a dream. Jesse Schultz can just be signed next year when he is a UFA again.

I can't think Holmgren, and more importantly Snider, are confident in Steve Mason as he self-destructed in Columbus when he was handed the job there and I think they will try to make a run at Miller or at least Halak and if that fails sign Emery. A number of good players would still have been available at 11 and I would not have minded if they took Lazar or Pulock there, or even if the Canucks got Matt Read and Sean Couturier, that would have been a fine return.

As for a trade for Tampa, I would have been perfectly happy if the Canucks couldn't pry the 3rd overall out of them, if they had gotten some kind of combination of Brett Connelly, a 2nd round pick and Teddy Purcell (with salary retained by Tampa).

For the Islanders, I would have been okay with Frans Nielsen/Nino and the 15th, and again taken Lazar or Pulock.

Lack, Cannata and the rest might be great prospects, but I think goalie is the hardest positions to project and you never know what you are going to get until they get to the NHL and try to shoulder a starters load. I think Luongo has a few good years left in him but I am concerned about the number of groin injuries he has been getting, particularly since I hear his style can exacerbate them.

Overall, I like this draft for the Canucks, I think Horvat, Shinkaruk and Subban were great picks especially considering their overall talent with where they were taken. My disappointment is that Gillis did not get anything to improve the team today or get enough cap room to take a serious run at UFAs. I think the Canucks biggest needs are a top 6 scoring winger (or even a playmaker for Kesler), a right hand shot PP quarterback and a 3rd line centre, the first 2 are way too hard to fill but they might have made a better effort through moving assets to attempt to improve today. Other successful teams also have young players stepping up and playing big, or at least competent, roles on the 3rd and 4th line like Bickell and Saad this year. Maybe Shinkaruk and Horvat can step in right away and have Jeff Skinner and Dave Bolland like impacts, but I think that is a lot to expect and too much pressure for young players. Maybe someone like Jensen or Schroeder can step up, but only Jensen has the size and compete to step in a 3rd line checking or 4th line energy role as I think Schroeder is top 6 or bust and I do not think he can play wing very well.

I really don't think a lot happened with this trade to improve the Canucks for next season and that's my problem with the trade, they did not get a roster player for Schneider.

 

[bcneil]

You're the one who brought it up!.. An asset was moved for an asset. it's business...

Nope I brought up fans were not happy with the Hodgson trade.
You brought up whether Hodgson should have been traded or not.

I am sorry you are not able to see this difference.
But rant away.

 

[storm rider]

Many other teams make bad deals, bad trades.. perceived by their fan base , hockey experts etc. The Canucks are very much not alone in that conversation.

A good example of this is the last 2 big multi player trades between the Leafs and the Flames.
Now those were total garbage trades and the Flames got poked in the eye with the shit end of the stick both times.

SR

 

[BORKO]

I honestly don't think a rostered player of any type that fit Vancouver immediate needs was ever in the mix in a deal for Schneider from any of the teams inquiring about the Vancouver netminder..

I just can't see Tampa offering up a kid like Connelly. As I can't see the Flyers giving up on Sean Couturier.

I honestly think the Canucks scouting staff was hooked on Bo Horvat from the start of the draft. He was the player that they targeted and the player that they wanted. They had to have known the Devils were previous interested in schnieder. Perhaps the deal as stated before was even worked before the draft. If horvat is available at #9 we will trade you Schneider. Horvat is the type of player the Devils in fact needed out of this draft too. There were a few mock drafts that had Bo Horvat going to the Devils at #9. There was I even on the Canucks site that had that listen.

Edmonton trade would be only if the return was high, since they are in the same division. It's obvious the Oilers are not 100% certain that Devan Dubnyk is their goalie of the present or the Future if they were working a deal for schnieder. I doubt they would have been a viable trading partner.

Deal we got for Schneider was still far better than the Maple Leaf B/S Deal offered for Luongo though. Ben Scrivens and a second round pick for Luongo. The same deal but with Matt Frattin included was used to land Jonathan Bernier from the LA Kings. Bernier has upside, but no real NHL experience as a starter. Traded back up for backup. Yes Bernier is more talented than Scrivens, but that maple leaf offer was still a slap in the face from Nonis.

I think there must have been roster players available, like I said the Canucks need 3 major upgrades but they could also really use youth that can play in their bottom six. They didn't have to be high end prospects, which is why I mention guys like Read and Purcell, but they definitely needed guys that could play. If it was a bottom 6 player they were to get, I would have at least expected a top 15 2013 first rounder as well.

I think Couturier is the Flyers most tradeable asset, they have Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, Talbot and Laughton is knocking on the door. Couturier is not going to get the top 6 time to develop properly as Schenn is not going to function nearly as well in a bottom 6 role while Giroux is their best player and playmaker by far. If Couturier can follow a Kesler like path maybe, but then what do you do with Laughton who is also supposed to be a good defensive bottom 6 player. They also have a ton of great forwards like Hartnell, Simmonds and Voracek so it is not as if they can move guys out of the position to the wing to get to the top 6, and they should not if their strength is at centre. So I would think Couturier, or Laughton, are available for the right price.

As for Tampa, I think after they got Drouin, that made Connelly expendable, more so now that they drafted Erne as well.

For the Islanders, they gave Nino away, he might have some attitude issues, but it could also be that he played for a gong show like the Islanders.

There are a number of Maple Leaf offers reported, I'm not sure I buy any of them, if the offer with Kadri as a centrepiece for Luongo was legit, then Gillis should have jumped all over that.

Gillis knew what pieces he had to add and I do think the window is closing, Kesler is wearing down more and more and the Sedins are probably going to be 70 to 80 point players going forward. This draft is going to help with the future, but they needed help now and I do not think Gillis got them the help they need. Although I guess they are trying to waive Ballard today to free up cap room.

 

[grusse]

this has been an interesting thread with much thoughtful input involved.

Ballard&Booth,if they're still here,would almost have to have better seasons than their ones with the Canucks.
Due to coach's decision(Ballard)&injury(Booth), their ice-time has been minimal.

In judging a trade it can depend on when we judge....short-term it looks like Buffalo has the edge, but IF Kassian develops into a physical
power forward, Canucks look better for the deal.

Similarly, IF Bo Horvat becomes a stud in cpl yrs,fans will applaud Gillis, esp. IF Luongo regains his starter-form.his #'s did dip a bit,I believe?

I know that GM's don't like to make deals within their division but it is not unprecedented.If Edm. offered 3 players that seems to me better than getting 1 back.
Yes, there could've been some embarrassment when Cory got standing O's in an Oilers jersey,but I like having 3 guys in a uni rather than 1.

one thing we can all agree on,it is seldom dull on the West Coast.

Happy Canada Day,everyone!

 

[grusse]

no disputing it Sonny,they won in2010&again in 2013, deserved champs, no question.

but, how does that tie into this thread?