Hey guys! How paranoid are you with regards to STI/STDS and SPs?

blizzah

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Good afternoon,

First time poster and I'm new to the whole scene here.

My question for you all (SP's can respond too), is how safe do you feel with regards to infections/diseases with an SP?

Safer with a well-reviewed SP? Scared to death with a new one?

Would it be offensive to an SP if I asked if they are disease free?

For SP's who perform BBBJ: aren't you paranoid your client may have something? My reading indicates BBBJ is a high risk for STI/STD transfer.

Thanks for your replies in advance.
 

Ms. Yoko Anna

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Good afternoon,

First time poster and I'm new to the whole scene here.

My question for you all (SP's can respond too), is how safe do you feel with regards to infections/diseases with an SP?

Safer with a well-reviewed SP? Scared to death with a new one?

Would it be offensive to an SP if I asked if they are disease free?

For SP's who perform BBBJ: aren't you paranoid your client may have something? My reading indicates BBBJ is a high risk for STI/STD transfer.

Thanks for your replies in advance.
That's why some SPs refuse to even discuss it.

If you are worried about STD, play safe.
Don't go for BBBJ or CIM.
Chances are slim that you would get something (risk is lower than girls who offer it), but less safe than covered.

Get vaccination for hep A, hep B, and HPV.
And except HIV, all other common STD is curable, I believe.

You should do some research on that, and confirm it with Health Nurse.
 

Miss*Bijou

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Get vaccination for hep A, hep B, and HPV.
And except HIV, all other common STD is curable, I believe.

You should do some research on that, and confirm it with Health Nurse.

Are they offering the HPV vaccine to everyone now? I thought it was just pre-teen girls?

Herpes and HPV/genital warts are not curable.
 

InTheBum

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Good afternoon,

First time poster and I'm new to the whole scene here.

My question for you all (SP's can respond too), is how safe do you feel with regards to infections/diseases with an SP?

Safer with a well-reviewed SP? Scared to death with a new one?

Would it be offensive to an SP if I asked if they are disease free?

For SP's who perform BBBJ: aren't you paranoid your client may have something? My reading indicates BBBJ is a high risk for STI/STD transfer.

Thanks for your replies in advance.
Catching an STD is always in the back of the mind, when being with an SP. However...think of it this way...If you picked up a girl at a bar or party, would you trust her 100% for being disease free?

However, if you let the fear consume you, I guarantee you won't enjoy yourself and you might have trouble being erect.

Just use a condom and you should be fine...


I've been with so many over the years I lost track and I never caught an STD.
 

blazejowski

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Just use a condom and you should be fine...

I've been with so many over the years I lost track and I never caught an STD.
Exactly... your odds are probably less to get something from an SP that consistently plays safe than from a ransom bar skank you pick up...
 

Elmore

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Exactly... your odds are probably less to get something from an SP that consistently plays safe than from a ransom bar skank you pick up...
People will rationalize anything to make themselves feel better about the choices they make.
 

ThisEndUp

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I'd be more worried about your 2am bar pick up than a sp (back page gals however...)

Personally, I'm more worried about what some sp's do with your personal information/picture than sti/std etc.
 

myselftheother

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People will rationalize anything to make themselves feel better about the choices they make.
No...he's exactly on point with that, blaze is...who knows what sort of diseases are lurking in the civilian world....hell, people don't even wash their hands after taking a huge greasy shit. Ugh...speaking of....BRB.:D
 

Caramel

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I've always wondered this too... I've seen a few SP's who are so extremely paranoid and publicly express their disdain towards girls who offer riskier services and men who seek them. This line of work is very subjective, the SPs only have 1 thing in common - selling sexual/mature services, and for many different reasons as to why they have chosen this as a source of income. Some people in general are a lot more careless than others, and some are very obsessive germaphobes. I would compare it to smokers and non-smokers (the ones who avoid for health reasons). They know the risks (well hopefully most of them do), yet they continue to smoke away.

I've noticed that the amount of customers that prefer BBBJ is extraordinarily greater than those who do not, and some girls probably are paranoid, but again every situation is different, so maybe the financial reward outweighs the risks.
 

vancity_cowboy

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My question for you all (SP's can respond too), is how safe do you feel with regards to infections/diseases with an SP?

Safer with a well-reviewed SP?

Scared to death with a new one?

Would it be offensive to an SP if I asked if they are disease free?

For SP's who perform BBBJ: aren't you paranoid your client may have something?

My reading indicates BBBJ is a high risk for STI/STD transfer.
1) absolutely safe

2) has no bearing

3) has no bearing

4) absolutely yes

5) not an sp

6) read it again. partner has to be infected to start with... i have never met an infected sp yet and never gotten anything from bbbj in several decades of p4p activity
 

sevenofnine

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i kind of agree with the comment, i mean you see you feel what you want to then nothing else matters and you go through life trying to explain or ratationlize your behaviour

um to each his own for the most part, the only safe sure bet is to stay at home, buy a playboy magazine or a cam girl
you want to touch and be interactive your at risk,
and i guess then to each there own how much risk is acceptable,
some guys in this have not even performed oral on an sp

one guy i think he just likes to take them out for supper, there is no right or wrong

most things are curable or you can live with witht the exception of hiv and i think you can even live with that look at magic johnson
some people love bbbj there was even a long thread on dato,

its all a very personal choice, i would think sps have something at stake if they catch some thing and some guy outs them on a message board and well its there health and your seeing several guys a day but what do i know.

i have seen an sp that would do anything with no regard well not bareback full service but everything else was good, and no need to be covered never even ran me through a shower said it just wasted time, we just went at it.

other sps were paranoid, i just had a shower insisted i take another, and didn't even want to be touched.
wierd there is or was not reason to it,
in the end its what ever your comfortable with, your the one at risk
 

the old maxx50

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Sp .s and clients know the risks, we have talked about them quit a bit on the different forms .. And we all know we should be getting regular STD tests. That is how you reduce the risks ..By knowing your statues .

Yes there are many that partake of this business that don't get tested , I don't know why , but they put them selves at risk by living with undiagnosed and untreated std.s and put everyone else at risk .. .

There should be nothing wrong in asking when some one was last tested , and even asking to see those results .. although i know that does not happen and won't for privacy reason on both side ..

But with regulars that we are familiar with and know some personal things about .. it is very possible .. Then some of those activities that are higher rise would be possible with out this paranoia .

It come down to what each of are risk tolerance is and trust and respect by all involved .. and I think in a large measure that does exist . being observant and discriminating with those you have sex with , goes a long way in making every buddy safe . Forget that and the every thing can go to hell in a hand basket .

If you are not comfortable with SP's then don't partake .. We each find are own levels of safety.
 

lenny

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For SP's who perform BBBJ: aren't you paranoid your client may have something? My reading indicates BBBJ is a high risk for STI/STD transfer.

Thanks for your replies in advance.
BBFS is considered by the following source to be 10X riskier re HIV than BBBJ. Adding that it says a condom provides 4-5 times more protection in penetrative sex from HIV than being without one, the conclusion is that CFS is at least twice as risky re HIV as a BBBJ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV#Transmission
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex

One thing is for sure; you won't make an SP pregnant by recieving a BBBJ.
You might if you have vaginal condom sex {CFS) with her.

Even with "perfect" condom use, namely correct and consistent use of condoms, 2% of couples will have an unwanted pregnancy per year. Ruling out miracle or virgin births, that means sperm is getting in. If it were STD or HIV infected sperm, you can imagine the consequences.

"The typical use pregnancy rate among condom users varies depending on the population being studied, ranging from 10–18% per year.[49] The perfect use pregnancy rate of condoms is 2% per year.[47]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condom#In_preventing_pregnancy

"Condoms may slip off the penis after ejaculation, [59] break due to improper application or physical damage (such as tears caused when opening the package) , or break or slip due to latex degradation (typically from usage past the expiration date, improper storage, or exposure to oils). The rate of breakage is between 0. 4% and 2. 3, while the rate of slippage is between 0. 6% and 1. 3. [51] Even if no breakage or slippage is observed. 1–2% of women will test positive for semen residue after intercourse with a condom. [60][61]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condom#Causes_of_failure

Moreover figures for condoms breaking do not include unnoticed or imperceptible small tears large enough to leak semen.

"Like my married friends, who didn't want children ever, and only used condoms. As the girl would get too fat on the pill. 2 kids in the next 4 years."
 

lenny

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Are they offering the HPV vaccine to everyone now? I thought it was just pre-teen girls?
Published: April 12, 2012 9:00 AM
Updated: April 12, 2012 10:00 AM

“I am pleased that with this program we can expand that to ensure that all young British Columbian women aged 21 and under will have had an opportunity to protect themselves.”

The vaccine will be available for the women starting this month and will be provided in a series of three doses over a six-month period.

Women who want to receive the vaccine but do not fall into the eligible age range, have the option of consulting with their physician or pharmacist about purchasing the vaccine.

http://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/community/147182095.html
 

lenny

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http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/hfile101b.stm#E46E5

HealthLink BC File #101b, September 2011

Who should get the HPV vaccine?

The HPV vaccine is provided free to girls in B.C. in grade 6 because:

Girls are best protected when they get the HPV vaccine before they become sexually active.
The vaccine prevents HPV infection but does not get rid of it once the infection occurs.
In teenage girls, the lining of the reproductive tract is still developing. This makes it easier for them to get infected with HPV.

Girls born in 1994 or later who missed getting the HPV vaccine may contact their local health unit to get vaccinated at no cost.

The HPV vaccine, GardasilT, is also approved for but not provided free to the following people:

Females between the ages of 9 and 45 years
Males between the ages of 9 and 26 years
Those not covered by the school-based program can speak with their health care provider about how to purchase the vaccine privately.

It is best to get the HPV vaccine before becoming sexually active and coming in contact with HPV; however, people who are sexually active may still benefit from the vaccine. The vaccine does not treat HPV infections.

http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/healthfiles/hfile101b.stm#E46E5
 

jesuschrist

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Exactly... your odds are probably less to get something from an SP that consistently plays safe than from a ransom bar skank you pick up...
I think BBFS is very common with SPs. I believe only a few can stick to never doing it, but people being what they are - most break down eventually and offer it to some clients, and frankly that would probably be more than one guy. Given that an SP sees many many more guys than any one guy could ever claim to have sex with girls (even if he pays for it), I'd say sex with an SP is always risky and likely riskier than a bar skank.
 

newatit

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Yes, taking care not to catch anything is important, particularly if you have other sex partners in your life.

But no one here has mentioned the issue of catching one and then telling the SP from whence you think it came, about it. Such a pronouncement, even if made in good faith, usually terminates the relationship immediately with the SP and invokes a response, that almost always goes along the line, "I was just tested and I am fine. It is your problem". Now, you know what you did with her, and you know if you have something, that either she gave it to you, or you got it from an earlier date, and likely gave it to her. So chances are in you mind that she has it and is spreading it. Only once was there ever a gal who sent me back a copy of her report, confirming that now she was ok. No other information though, like did she take pills and get cured before the report?

So with this subject you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you don't tell her there is a pretty good chance that she will spread it afar before she is detected. And a lot of damage can be done. So my gut reaction if I had something, notifiy eveyone involved. It is not appreciated, I must tell you. People do not like being told they are or might be infected. You get treated like you are "dirty" when in fact, it had to come from someone you deal with and might have gone to others.

But some of these diseases go pretty well unnoted. Like Chlymidia, can go for months in your body, symphtoms either unnoted or not enough of an issue to do something about. Yet is being spread easily, and in fact there is a rash of it in the lower mainland right now. Spread sexually and orally too.

Body fluids spread diseases, particulary sexual fluids, and many of these disease can reside in the mouth or throat, and be spread back. So avoiding body fluids is the best practice, in any form. BBBJ will force saliva down your urethral track with can be bring bacteria with it. They do not flush out with cum.

IF you are going to exchange fluids with a gal and she tells you she has never caught anything, beware. Those are always the nones who have something. They are the ones who have not got a disease that is bothering them, and the the testing is not always thorough. One gal who told me she was tested regularly told me she had not told her doctor that she was in the trade, so he was not ordering all the tests. Her excuse, well, he is my family doctor since I was small and did not want him to know about this.

So buddy what will you do if you catch one?
 

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Spits coffee with a force that hits his monitor.. WTF?? You think BBFS is very common with SP's dude?? Seriously I realize your onscreen here is Jesus Christ.. but seriously Christ have you lost your mind.

Why would any Escort/ SP offer BBFS for a few dollars more. I think your WAY OFF BASE and need to go back to your new testament studies. Most of the SP's that are on here care about themselves first and foremost then care about their health.

Sex with some Bar skank poses a far more sinister risk, plus also the LACK of DISCRETION!
The escorts on here represent what percent of the sex workers in the area...2%? or less probably?

Nobody has studies so we can draw our own conclusions and the choices we make reflect them. But for as many women here who would never entertain the idea of BBFS, there are more advertising on CL, Asians and non asians, who apparently offer it. And if you think that every guy who sees ladies here do not see those who offer it (even if they don't partake themselves) I think you are kidding yourself.
 

lenny

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Herpes and HPV/genital warts are not curable.
Like the common cold or flu which kills thousands a year, for which there is no pill or med one can take to "cure" it, HPV also is usually "cured" by the bodies' immune defence systems.

"Most people who acquire genital wart-associated HPV types clear the infection rapidly without ever developing warts or any other symptoms."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus#Genital_warts

"There is currently no specific treatment for HPV infection.[1][76][83] However, the viral infection, more often than not, clears by itself.[84] According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the body’s immune system clears HPV naturally within two years for 90% of cases.[1] However, experts do not agree on whether the virus is completely eliminated or reduced to undetectable levels, and it is difficult to know when it is contagious.[85]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus#Treatment

"While there is no cure for HPV, the good news is the infection often clears on its own. If it does not, and treatment is needed, there are many HPV treatment options. Plus, as more people are vaccinated with the new HPV vaccines, the rates of infection may be greatly reduced."

"For now, HPV treatment focuses on the symptoms of the infection. Symptoms include genital warts associated with low-risk HPV types (which don't generally lead to cancers) and the precancerous changes sometimes associated with the high-risk types of HPV."

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/hpv-genital-warts/hpv-treatment-is-there-hpv-cure

"The answer to a particularly popular question “Is HPV Curable?” is not entirely a straightforward yes or no answer, because hpv is more complicated and complex than you may know."

http://ishpvcurable.org/

"Is HPV curable?"

http://www.hpvfaq.com/answers.asp?questionid=10025
 

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Spits coffee with a force that hits his monitor.. WTF?? You think BBFS is very common with SP's dude?? Seriously I realize your onscreen here is Jesus Christ.. but seriously Christ have you lost your mind.

Why would any Escort/ SP offer BBFS for a few dollars more. I think your WAY OFF BASE and need to go back to your new testament studies. Most of the SP's that are on here care about themselves first and foremost then care about their health.

Sex with some Bar skank poses a far more sinister risk, plus also the LACK of DISCRETION!
I agree with you 100% SMH!!
 
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