A loooong time ago a study was done about disease rate and showed street workers to have a lower average for stds than the rest of the population, particularly wives of service men. But, the industry has changed since then.
Hey guys! How paranoid are you with regards to STI/STDS and SPs?
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I think BBFS is very common with SPs. I believe only a few can stick to never doing it, but people being what they are - most break down eventually and offer it to some clients, and frankly that would probably be more than one guy. Given that an SP sees many many more guys than any one guy could ever claim to have sex with girls (even if he pays for it), I'd say sex with an SP is always risky and likely riskier than a bar skank.
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Yes, taking care not to catch anything is important, particularly if you have other sex partners in your life.
But no one here has mentioned the issue of catching one and then telling the SP from whence you think it came, about it. Such a pronouncement, even if made in good faith, usually terminates the relationship immediately with the SP and invokes a response, that almost always goes along the line, "I was just tested and I am fine. It is your problem". Now, you know what you did with her, and you know if you have something, that either she gave it to you, or you got it from an earlier date, and likely gave it to her. So chances are in you mind that she has it and is spreading it. Only once was there ever a gal who sent me back a copy of her report, confirming that now she was ok. No other information though, like did she take pills and get cured before the report?
So with this subject you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you don't tell her there is a pretty good chance that she will spread it afar before she is detected. And a lot of damage can be done. So my gut reaction if I had something, notifiy eveyone involved. It is not appreciated, I must tell you. People do not like being told they are or might be infected. You get treated like you are "dirty" when in fact, it had to come from someone you deal with and might have gone to others.
But some of these diseases go pretty well unnoted. Like Chlymidia, can go for months in your body, symphtoms either unnoted or not enough of an issue to do something about. Yet is being spread easily, and in fact there is a rash of it in the lower mainland right now. Spread sexually and orally too.
Body fluids spread diseases, particulary sexual fluids, and many of these disease can reside in the mouth or throat, and be spread back. So avoiding body fluids is the best practice, in any form. BBBJ will force saliva down your urethral track with can be bring bacteria with it. They do not flush out with cum.
It's unfortunate that you had these experiences but I don't think it's fair to generalize these conclusions for all sp's. Sp's don't want sti's any more than pooners or any other individual does. While it would be more courteous of the sp's if they had responded to thank you or to let you know they would go and get tested, the fact that they did not does not prove or mean that they didn't care or didn't do anything about it. There's nothing to gain for an sp not to get herself tested and treated, if necessary. I have to admit I find the assumption that sp's would deliberately disregard their own health and the health of their clients a little hard to believe. What motives or reasons would an sp have to do this? Do you believe that we somehow care less about our health than you do, for example, or than other pooners or average person outside of escorting? That premise doesn't make much sense IMO and it's quite unfair to make that assumption.
The problem also comes from the many examples of pooners who have over the years posted accusations about specific sp's for having been responsible for their herpes infection (for some reason, that's always the sti involved in these accusations), which is extremely problematic because of the way the virus functions in the body. 99% of the time it's simply impossible to determine where the virus infection originated or when it occurred, since it often remains dormant in the body for months and even years. So even if the person has "only had sex with one sp" in the past 6 months, year, or whatever, this person cannot claim to without a doubt "know it came from this sp" when it's just as likely that a previous partner could have transmitted it last year or 5 years ago but that they only just suffered an outbreak now. It doesn't mean the infection is recent or that it came from one sp or another. This is a fairly common accusation and assumption on perb and one that is unfair and without basis...yet it repeatedly comes up.
Also keep in mind that most girls have received the following at least once - and usually many times:
- A panicked pooner who is experiencing regret or paranoia about seeing an sp, who determines that based on some (real or imagined) "symptoms" he's experiencing (or even without experiencing any symptoms at all), and without any testing or medical advice, you (the sp) must have "given him something". Or, if he's a little more diplomatic, suggests it using slightly less offensive language. If he's particularly dishonest, he may even pretend he was tested and the results came back positive, so he knows it "came from you".
I've realized these people think they are "testing" you and that if they pretend "they know for sure", you'll admit something you otherwise would have denied. These are often followed by an apology once the results come back negative and they feel bad about being such a dick. And other times, out of embarrassment, they don't dare admit or apologize for their actions.
So in this context, it's a little more understandable why you may have received mixed reactions but in no way does that mean they didn't care or didn't do anything about it - and especially, that they deliberately ignored it and knowingly infected other clients. If these girls exist, which I'm sure they must - as all kinds of people do - they are the exception or certainly the minority. It's quite unfair to imply this is a common attitude and most sp's behave this way or don't care about their health. Really unfair.
IF you are going to exchange fluids with a gal and she tells you she has never caught anything, beware. Those are always the nones who have something. They are the ones who have not got a disease that is bothering them, and the the testing is not always thorough. One gal who told me she was tested regularly told me she had not told her doctor that she was in the trade, so he was not ordering all the tests. Her excuse, well, he is my family doctor since I was small and did not want him to know about this.
This is also extremely problematic. How can you generalize from one example of an irresponsible sp? And while you may find it hard to believe, it is in no way unusual for an sp or a pooner to have not ever had an sti test come back positive. Many people, both sp's and pooners have confirmed that this has been their experience and I find it very disingenuous and offensive that you would suggest that somehow anyone who claims to have never "caught" anything is automatically lying, automatically *is* infected with "a disease that does not bother them" and automatically irresponsible about their testing!
I'm sorry but your claims are unfair, untrue, unsubstantiated and frankly, they are offensive!
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Who should get the HPV vaccine?
The HPV vaccine is provided free to girls in B.C. in grade 6 because:
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In teenage girls, the lining of the reproductive tract is still developing. This makes it easier for them to get infected with HPV.
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This is a perfect example of how to poon safely and responsibly....play safe, get checked, be responsible to yourself and the ones you play with....I've been picking up SW's for over 30 years, I get tested yearly. The only thing I've ever got was NGU: non gonnococcle urethritis and that was from letting her put the condom on. I always play safe never went bareback anything with a SW, I'm anal about putting my own condoms on and having antbacterial wipes and lotion onboard when I do a Whore Tour! I'm proof that properly used condoms work safely.........so just play safe and you should have no worries especially with SP's and incalls, enjoy!
