PERB In Need of Banner

This should scare the crap out of you

normisanas

Banned
Nov 23, 2009
603
1
0
Listen to this Harvard historian on the current change of global economic power:


The guest speaker starts at 23:05.
 

InTheBum

Well-known member
Dec 31, 2004
3,198
214
63
Am I expected to watch the hole 75 minutes? :confused:
 

InTheBum

Well-known member
Dec 31, 2004
3,198
214
63
As long as I get my government pension...everything should be okay ...right? Isn't OAS and CPP enough to take care of me when I hit retirement?
 

lenny

girls just wanna have fu
May 20, 2004
4,087
76
48
your GF's panties
"Listen to this Harvard historian on the current change of global economic power"

Let me guess...

...he thinks China & India will soon surpass the USA as the richest country in the world?
 

DavidMR

New member
Mar 27, 2009
872
0
0
As long as I get my government pension...everything should be okay ...right? Isn't OAS and CPP enough to take care of me when I hit retirement?
Are you over 54? Otherwise, you may be waiting another year or two for the OAS portion of that, thanks to the latest budget from Harper and Flaherty.
 

sevenofnine

Active member
Nov 21, 2008
2,014
9
38
i will never understand why egg heads think there so smart,

for one they don't have a life or a job so they have time to think and ponder these things while other people are out there working there ass of keeping the economy going so they can sit and ponder shit all day long

and honestly if you actuall spent time to think about it what do you think is going to happen, the american economy is stagnat its not so much purchasing power or distribution of wealth or what the fuck every his point is
its the fact that we all have three or four cars city in the drive way a television in every room cell phones
we have all we will ever need
there is like a billion people on this planet or more who have never made a phone call never flushed a toilet taken a ride in a car.
and basiclly white western america things were well king shit,

there are like six billion people most of them aren't in the west, and well there hungry for power for goods for stuff,
that is were the power is political power enomomic power, we the white guys in the west are the minority

the richest man in the world is in mexico and i think he is a criminal, if im not mistaken
not bill gates not warren buffet some crime king pin in mexico at least i think he is a crime king pin

the americans can't even put there own men on the space station they need the russians to do it.
america is in disgrace how many euorpean countries are looking at default bankruptcy
and you need some egg head from harvard to tell you the west is in decline, and golly he thinks he is so smart,
im to busy trying to keep general motors and chryslar and fanny may and wall street from falling apart

and well there is like billions of people out there that want a car a cell phone high def tv.

and all i want is to be able to buy a g.m car.
its there turn now all those chinese or indians or over it is that is the new political power, economic power, its only a question of when.
 

normisanas

Banned
Nov 23, 2009
603
1
0
"Listen to this Harvard historian on the current change of global economic power"

Let me guess...

...he thinks China & India will soon surpass the USA as the richest country in the world?
That's the assumption that precedes his talk. Watch it to know what develops from that.
 

Tugela

New member
Oct 26, 2010
1,913
1
0
Don't need to watch it to know what he is going to say. The developed world has saturated it's development capacity, the developing world is becoming more developed. He will assume that the developing world is incapable of becoming saturated itself, and therefore in a generation the western world will be herding goats.

He will of course overlook a few things, namely:
(A) If the west has allready reached saturated it's development potential there is no logical reason to assume they will turn to goat herding next. More likely they would remain at saturated development.
(B) The natural resources required to feul the devepment of the third world are finite and will probably run out before they reach the level of development required to overcome that obstacle. So, it is far more likely that THEY will return to goat herding, not the west.
 

normisanas

Banned
Nov 23, 2009
603
1
0
Don't need to watch it to know what he is going to say. The developed world has saturated it's development capacity, the developing world is becoming more developed. He will assume that the developing world is incapable of becoming saturated itself, and therefore in a generation the western world will be herding goats.

He will of course overlook a few things, namely:
(A) If the west has allready reached saturated it's development potential there is no logical reason to assume they will turn to goat herding next. More likely they would remain at saturated development.
(B) The natural resources required to feul the devepment of the third world are finite and will probably run out before they reach the level of development required to overcome that obstacle. So, it is far more likely that THEY will return to goat herding, not the west.
You're completely wrong. This is not what he says.
 

Jethro Bodine

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2009
4,456
1,882
113
Beverly Hills. In the Kitchen eatin' vittles.
Then educate us, posting a 75 minute video with no context is more than annoying, it's asinine. I have a busy life, PERB gets maybe 20 minutes total over the course of a few of visits when I have time. Most of the time, it's hit and run. Either help out, or STFU.
I agree! I don't even watch porn for 75 minutes. ;)
 

bcneil

I am from BC
Aug 24, 2007
2,089
0
36
Then educate us, posting a 75 minute video with no context is more than annoying, it's asinine. I have a busy life, PERB gets maybe 20 minutes total over the course of a few of visits when I have time. Most of the time, it's hit and run. Either help out, or STFU.
plus 1 to this.......silky johnsonish
 

Devo

Member
Aug 16, 2003
316
0
16
Canada
Are you over 54? Otherwise, you may be waiting another year or two for the OAS portion of that, thanks to the latest budget from Harper and Flaherty.
You will probably be surprised that I don't agree with raising the age of retirement. This will mean that the poor guy hanging drywall will have two more years of backbreaking work before he can retire. Of course this won't affect the welfare bum. He doesn't care which agency his government cheque comes from.

Lets crack down on the welfare and EI abuse and leave the seniors alone.
 

DavidMR

New member
Mar 27, 2009
872
0
0
You will probably be surprised that I don't agree with raising the age of retirement. This will mean that the poor guy hanging drywall will have two more years of backbreaking work before he can retire. Of course this won't affect the welfare bum. He doesn't care which agency his government cheque comes from.

You're right about that. For the working older person, who's in a below average job for pay and benefits, IOWs, no pension beyond CPP, it's going to be a hardship. But too many think that everyone today is in white or pink collar jobs, and actually, there has been a kind of drift in that direction. But it's not everyone, and there are lots in those jobs with low pay and few benefits too.
 

normisanas

Banned
Nov 23, 2009
603
1
0
Then educate us, posting a 75 minute video with no context is more than annoying, it's asinine. I have a busy life, PERB gets maybe 20 minutes total over the course of a few of visits when I have time. Most of the time, it's hit and run. Either help out, or STFU.
If you don't have 75 minutes to watch it, you don't have to. No one is making you do anything, you know. But you act as though you have no will power of your own to decide what to do. It's not asinine to post a 75 minute video, nor is it asinine to not give you the Cole's notes version of something that should be understood in its entirety because of the complexity and subtlety of the issue. If a very educated person or great thinker were to give propose his theories, how do you think he would feel after extensive years of research to pare down his conclusions to a few notes for the consumption of people with 2 minute attention spans?

If you don't have the time, then why don't you STFU.
 

normisanas

Banned
Nov 23, 2009
603
1
0
Professor Fergusson's talk is only about 30 minutes in the middle. The OP did write that the interesting bit starts at about the 23 minute mark. The basics are that the western world have economically & politically dominated the rest of the world for 500 years because they developed certain societal traits; e.g. the rights of individuals versus the state, the rule of law & property rights, education, the work ethic, etc. He has a list.

As the western world developed these traits, their economic & political power rose rapidly while the rest of the world languished. The trouble is that the western world is only about 20% of the world's population. India and what he calls 'Greater China' (the PRC, Hong Kong & Taiwan) have integrated most of the traits that served the west so well & between 1970 & about 2016 they will have closed the GDP per capita gap with the US economy & begin moving ahead.

It is a good talk & worth the time to watch it. If you don't want to stay on this page for the full time to DL the video & jump to the 23 minute make, you can find it on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27EORn0tZs
Glad you watched some of it, or you might have watched all of it but decided not to discuss some of his more surprising conclusions about the Arab Spring, or even what the implications are when China leads the world in GDP in less than 15 years.
 

DavidMR

New member
Mar 27, 2009
872
0
0
i will never understand why egg heads think there so smart,

for one they don't have a life or a job so they have time to think and ponder these things while other people are out there working there ass of keeping the economy going so they can sit and ponder shit all day long

I guess this is the way in which television and now the internet have helped to raise the awareness and sophistication of the general public.
 
Last edited:

normisanas

Banned
Nov 23, 2009
603
1
0
The point was to give a short bit to whet people's appetite for viewing the talk, not condense it all down so they don't have to.
You're quite right, a little intro to whet the appetite would have provided some temptation. Nevertheless, some people react as though the whole thing is being rammed down their throats when it is only being offered. Had they experienced a lack of control over their own lives that would bring about such reflexive attitude?

I'm a reader by nature, not a watcher.
He's a prolific author, and fortunately or unfortunately he's being listened to by those in power in the USA and Britain. His views are intelligent and at times disturbing. I can see that for once the far right will have an intelligent and extremely well educated spokesman for their extreme views. The likes of Christopher Hitchens (if he were still alive), Chomsky, Brzezinski, Chossudovsky, and Howard Zinn (dead) would have a tough debate against him.
 
Ashley Madison
Vancouver Escorts