Did anybody notice if they were wearing armbands with swastikas on them, its pretty obvious whats going on here and I would have to say that in their effort to intimidate they are coming very close to operating outside of the parameters of the very laws they are hired to enforce, I cannot see unless it was determined they were doing anything wrong why any client should be required to answer any of their questions including producing ID and if I was caught in that situation would not without first consulting an attorney
Nevada Police Raid
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Do not get me wrong as a law abiding person I am 100 percent behind the police force when they are doing what they should be doing, I do not frequent mps anymore but have a lot in the past and I have not ever seen anything going on in them that would be considered a threat to the safety and well being of the general public. At the risk of sounding rhetorical I will again mention that the mayor of Toronto stated that his police officers have enough to do without wasting there time trying to turn a consenual act between two adults into a crime i would certainly think that Winnipeg has enough issues where there LE could be better utilized
I have a long term friend who is a police officer in Winnipeg. We have talked about this subject before.I was in Nevadas a few years ago once when it got raided.
We were on the bed fooling around a bit ... both naked, there is a knock on the door, it opens cop peeks her head in tells us both to get dressed. We wait, they take her away and told me to stay in the room.
Male cop came back to talk to me. They take my ID, asked if the name would match up front. Asked me what I did for a living. Some question about whether or not I had to pass a security check on where I worked. They wanted information about what went on in there. Questions like do the girls bring condoms in? Is there a discussion about money up front, who brings it up, etc.. I was mostly cooperative, but gave general vague answers where I could. I've honestly never had a money discussion there, everything just happens and I've always paid at the end. I actually asked they cop why they wasted their time busting a place like this instead of going after SWs... he was actually a pretty cool guy, said it was the law.
Then they let me go. Don't know what happened after that. Never heard back from them, but of course my ID and name is probably in a file somewhere. I scanned the police pages and reports and all that stuff for weeks and months afterward. Waiting for the hammer to fall.
Scared the shit out of me and it was a very very long time before I went back (yes I eventually went back).
I'm not married, but I don't think anyone would want it to be released publicly that you were caught there.
Part of the permit states that the MP has to keep record of everyone's names. To get around that you use a fake name and they keep record of that.
However with the current privacy act that might go against that part. My answer would be I do not give away any of that information accurately due to the privacy act.
They associate guys that go to MP with a higher chance of committing criminal acts. The SW and many escorts are notorious for using drugs. If you have a criminal record especially in drugs further questions would be asked.
Once again many Indy girls were targeted a 2 years ago or so. Some police showed up at their incall location. If you’re going to poon it doesn't matter where you go. However if you get caught at a Indy place that can be considered a brothel without a permit your in more trouble then going to a place that has one.
The police actually pull people over that drive around Sargent (where Nevada's is) and around Ellice (Where eb is) because of the SW in the area. They do the exact same thing get your id etc.
Most Indy girls don't talk about their run in with the police that much is for sure. Some put down that they give cooking lessons or other not so direct sex ads. Simply because some don't want to get a license.
For those that think they are safe via what they do on the internet think again. I never said I was into pedo porn. However the justice system has successfully targeted those people and I was using that to prove my point. You can recover deleted files on hard drives for example pretty easily for example. Anyways the justice system is not going after pooners via the internet yet so no worries.
My whole point is if you’re going to poon nothing is safe from a SO finding out. Anyone caught by the police at a MP with a permit can't have their info shown publically anyways. If a police officer knew your SO they couldn't say anything or the privacy act among other things would have their ass. If you’re a danger to society then your info can be publicly known though. Going to a MP doesn't make you a danger to society.
I am just sharing information.
Also your ID info doesn't get put on record if you haven't done any crimes. Once again they take that info when they go to say a MP to see if you have committed any crimes. I guess their is a chance of it being considered having sex in a public place and that is illegal. People have sex at public places like work every day. That isn't something the justice system is really enforcing.
That happened to me about 4 years ago. I was going to a client's house to deliver some things and they lived on Simcoe between Ellice and Sargent. Not being overly familiar with the order of the streets in the area I had to cruise down Ellice then Sargent a couple of times slowing down at corners to try and see the street names, before I found it. Just as I turn off Sargent onto Simcoe I get pulled over by this unmarked car. Usual DL and Registration. When I asked what the problem was they asked me what I was doing in the area. I told them and showed the cop the package for my client. "Are you sure that's all your doing?", he asks. "Yes", I replied, "What else do you think I was doing?" After a routine check on my DL thye let me go. I asked a lawyer friend of mine a few days later, how they can just stop you without you having broken any traffic law or other and he told me that in Canada, they can.The police actually pull people over that drive around Sargent (where Nevada's is) and around Ellice (Where eb is) because of the SW in the area. They do the exact same thing get your id etc.
When u are operating a motor vechicle it is a different situation uare of course required to produce identifacation, however if u are in an mp and have done nothing wrong I would think u would have ever right to tell them u are not comfortable answering their questions or producing ID without first consulting with your attorney i think the bluff would stop their
First thing to do would be to lawyer up.
They don't have the right to broadcast your info if you aren't doing anything illegal.
They charge the girls as they are bound by laws.
If they aired your info to your SO or anyone else, you would have enough of a lawsuit against them to cause a big problem.
Now that is if you weren't in the middle of some act.
Rockstar1, I agree.
I doubt I will visit there again.
I got to know a few people who worked there that I enjoyed seeing that are indy, and have made arrangements with them to meet privately.
They just got tired of it there, the huge fines, and way things were run.
You would think they would be smart and put a camera in the front and back, and then a button that flashes a red light in all the rooms to give notice.
Simple, easy to install, and would be pretty much fool proof.
They don't have the right to broadcast your info if you aren't doing anything illegal.
They charge the girls as they are bound by laws.
If they aired your info to your SO or anyone else, you would have enough of a lawsuit against them to cause a big problem.
Now that is if you weren't in the middle of some act.
Rockstar1, I agree.
I doubt I will visit there again.
I got to know a few people who worked there that I enjoyed seeing that are indy, and have made arrangements with them to meet privately.
They just got tired of it there, the huge fines, and way things were run.
You would think they would be smart and put a camera in the front and back, and then a button that flashes a red light in all the rooms to give notice.
Simple, easy to install, and would be pretty much fool proof.
That's a fantastic suggestion. Especially for places like Nevadas where they have to buzz you in.You would think they would be smart and put a camera in the front and back, and then a button that flashes a red light in all the rooms to give notice.
Simple, easy to install, and would be pretty much fool proof.
I was actually in a strip club once in the US where they had a good set up like this. The private dance booths were in the back and had a curtain to give privacy. There was a red light on the wall above you. I was told that if LE or the local liquor license inspector showed up the girl at the front would press a button and the light would go on to warn the girl and the patron.
Maybe if Kal or Eric read this forum, which I'm sure they do, the number of guys saying they're off MP's may encourage such a thing.
Cheers
I have been involved in two raids. The first one was 30 years ago at the St. Charles Hotel. Met her in the bar, thought she was a stripped, talked to her every Wednesday for for a few hours for over a month. One night we ordered pizza and headed up to her room. She was very tall, blonde and her name was Candace. We where in her room eating when the door blows open and in rushes 6 cops. They asked a few questions, checked my ID and left. I was later told by Candace that she was a sp, and most of the time could be found on Albert. I never saw her again till last year when I walked into a local Shoppers Drug Mart and there she was stocking shelves. We made eye contact, exchanges a smile and life went on. A couple of weeks later I was in a Subway eating when she walks in sits down and says do you know me.
The second time I was at Broadways a few years back in the middle of a session with Nicole. I was in the end room next to the stairwell, when we heard what sounded like twenty guy's running up the stairs. She quickly says throw on your underwear and get under this towel. She quickly pulled on her pants, and threw on her top and started massaging me. There was light knock on the door and in came two cops. One took her and the other stayed with me. He ask if I had paid her anything, if she asked for anything, how often I came there, checked my ID and told me my session was over.
The second time I was at Broadways a few years back in the middle of a session with Nicole. I was in the end room next to the stairwell, when we heard what sounded like twenty guy's running up the stairs. She quickly says throw on your underwear and get under this towel. She quickly pulled on her pants, and threw on her top and started massaging me. There was light knock on the door and in came two cops. One took her and the other stayed with me. He ask if I had paid her anything, if she asked for anything, how often I came there, checked my ID and told me my session was over.
I remember something in the news about the late Jack Layton got caught in a massage parlor once when he was younger and he just said he was there for a massage and didnt know sex was going on in that establishment.
I know this is tough when your dick is in her mouth but there is time to get ready.
I was a EB last week discussing this this subject, she says what they do is turn up the music really loud in the rooms so the girls know there's a raid and she gets dressed and starts massaging up and you stay naked under the cover like you are at ten spa.
I know this is tough when your dick is in her mouth but there is time to get ready.
I was a EB last week discussing this this subject, she says what they do is turn up the music really loud in the rooms so the girls know there's a raid and she gets dressed and starts massaging up and you stay naked under the cover like you are at ten spa.
Well Rexxx you if you like attracting unwanted attention, and making things difficult for yourself that would be the way to go. I have always found that when dealing with the cops if your straight up, and show them respect, they will treat you in the same manner. The cop was no dummy and knew what was going on in that room. Basically he was doing his job, asked the question he needed to ask. I think what we all forget is that the cops that enter these building are doing what there told to do.
Thats my point though I don't believe the cop was showing you respect or doing his job. If it did go down the way you described it then you were in a licensed legal business getting a massage from a woman wearing the legal attire regardless of what he knew goes on there he had no evidence of any wrongdoing. There was no reason for him to interrogate youWell Rexxx you if you like attracting unwanted attention, and making things difficult for yourself that would be the way to go. I have always found that when dealing with the cops if your straight up, and show them respect, they will treat you in the same manner. The cop was no dummy and knew what was going on in that room. Basically he was doing his job, asked the question he needed to ask. I think what we all forget is that the cops that enter these building are doing what there told to do.
Yes, they have a job to do.
It isn't their fault that the priorities up top are messed up.
Look at our city.
Red light cameras that send half the revenue to a company in alberta.
We could lease that equipment, and keep an additional 30% of all the revenues in our province.
We go after minor grow ops.
Anyone see the stats on how much damage booze causes? You know, that fully legal thing. Kills over 70K a year in N.A.
How many problems caused by oxi? Legal. Prescribed.
How many murders.
Gang problems.
Race issues.
And the priorities for a crew of cops is to bust some MP's. Ask yourself. How many cops did what they were told.
You are right, I don't have a problem with cops doing what they are told.
I have a problem with a society that finds that acceptable.
How about you make a few more areas of this city safer.
How about we clean up the area around the Arena so other teams don't hide in the tunnels when they come to Winnipeg.
How about we go after a hard drug trade that we know causes huge problems.
When I see cops busting people driving nice cars on a sunday night that generates revenue to the places on portage, I am embarrased to be a Winnipegger.
When they are racing. Bust them.
When they are just driving, leave them alone.
All about the money.
Sickening that our streets are as horrible as they are. Go west and see how nice the streets and highways are once you are out of this province.
Meanwhile, we drop huge coin on a Museum. And they want more money.
Go over budget on our stadium. And fall behind.
How about the police....well.....police.
Solve crimes.
Don't become a higher level version of a traffic cop.
Sorry, just got preachy.
My Patriots got a chance for revenge in two weeks.
It isn't their fault that the priorities up top are messed up.
Look at our city.
Red light cameras that send half the revenue to a company in alberta.
We could lease that equipment, and keep an additional 30% of all the revenues in our province.
We go after minor grow ops.
Anyone see the stats on how much damage booze causes? You know, that fully legal thing. Kills over 70K a year in N.A.
How many problems caused by oxi? Legal. Prescribed.
How many murders.
Gang problems.
Race issues.
And the priorities for a crew of cops is to bust some MP's. Ask yourself. How many cops did what they were told.
You are right, I don't have a problem with cops doing what they are told.
I have a problem with a society that finds that acceptable.
How about you make a few more areas of this city safer.
How about we clean up the area around the Arena so other teams don't hide in the tunnels when they come to Winnipeg.
How about we go after a hard drug trade that we know causes huge problems.
When I see cops busting people driving nice cars on a sunday night that generates revenue to the places on portage, I am embarrased to be a Winnipegger.
When they are racing. Bust them.
When they are just driving, leave them alone.
All about the money.
Sickening that our streets are as horrible as they are. Go west and see how nice the streets and highways are once you are out of this province.
Meanwhile, we drop huge coin on a Museum. And they want more money.
Go over budget on our stadium. And fall behind.
How about the police....well.....police.
Solve crimes.
Don't become a higher level version of a traffic cop.
Sorry, just got preachy.
My Patriots got a chance for revenge in two weeks.
I hardly believe it was an interrogation. A few simply questions and I was on my way. However that's the difference between me and you. You seem to have a problem with LE and what they do, and I just look at it like there doing there job. The point is raids are no big deal if you not an asshole towards LE.
Good points Clive, the only thing is we are on schedule and budget for the new stadium. Don't like the fact that it's not going to be a indoor facility, however we are on schedule and budget due to our mild winter. lol
I don't have any problem with LE I just don't expect them to harass me when I haven't done anything wrong. You're the one who thinks if you don't do exactly what they say and voice concern that they're overstepping their bounds that they will go to extremes and use their power to retaliate against you. I just expect them to be professionals.I hardly believe it was an interrogation. A few simply questions and I was on my way. However that's the difference between me and you. You seem to have a problem with LE and what they do, and I just look at it like there doing there job. The point is raids are no big deal if you not an asshole towards LE.
sorry to chime in so late, but deny, deny, deny... the police are not trying to be your friend - they are interrogating you and are professionals at it. So when they ask you a question like how much more does the girl charge or does she bring her own condoms, reply with a shrug and ask "What are you talking about?" and then shut up. They will give you plenty of rope with which to hang yourself all you have to do is help them tie the noose.
Just to recap
1. Deny
2. Shut up
Just to recap
1. Deny
2. Shut up
Excellent advice Bob.
I used to play hockey with a couple of cops and a crown prosecutor. They'd say all the time it was amazing how some people don't know to shut up and pretty soon have just spilled all of the beans and the cops only had to start by asking them a few innocent questions.
Don't be rude but you are under no obligation aside from providing your name and ID to answer any questions, whether you are under arrest or not. After giving them your name and ID simply ask "Am I under arrest?" If the answer is no, then simply say you'd like to leave then. They'll tell you no, you can't until they check you for warrents, etc and ask a few questions. At this point you tell them "That's fine but I'd like a lawyer." Now they can't ask you anything until they let you speak with a lawyer, either your own or a public defender. This will let them know in a polite way you know your rights. Unless you are someone they really want to investigate, which you are not, they'll tell you to get lost. Iif they do detain you then you just answer "On the advice of council I decline to answer that question" is all you need to say. Again, unless your some kingpin they are after, they'll realize your a dead end and let you go so they can still make it for Happy Hour.
I used to play hockey with a couple of cops and a crown prosecutor. They'd say all the time it was amazing how some people don't know to shut up and pretty soon have just spilled all of the beans and the cops only had to start by asking them a few innocent questions.
Don't be rude but you are under no obligation aside from providing your name and ID to answer any questions, whether you are under arrest or not. After giving them your name and ID simply ask "Am I under arrest?" If the answer is no, then simply say you'd like to leave then. They'll tell you no, you can't until they check you for warrents, etc and ask a few questions. At this point you tell them "That's fine but I'd like a lawyer." Now they can't ask you anything until they let you speak with a lawyer, either your own or a public defender. This will let them know in a polite way you know your rights. Unless you are someone they really want to investigate, which you are not, they'll tell you to get lost. Iif they do detain you then you just answer "On the advice of council I decline to answer that question" is all you need to say. Again, unless your some kingpin they are after, they'll realize your a dead end and let you go so they can still make it for Happy Hour.
