This is the right way to do Justice

[jesuschrist]

A case (in China) where a rich kid bumps a mother of a 2-year old boy off her bicycle, with his car. Instead of helping her, he decides to silence her by killing her because he thinks she could make life a real pain in the ass for him.

http://en.radio86.com/news/student-executed-hit-and-run-murder?loc=interstitialskip

I see no reason that their government could have chosen any other punishment, and it was served quickly without hundreds of appeals and years waiting like here and the United States. There have been many injustices in our society, and one in recent memory was that poor gas station attendant in Maple Ridge who was dragged to his death behind a car. I only wish our government had the guts to do the same as their government, but we're a bunch of pussies.

 

[mercyshooter]

That's right! Easy case! Stupid university student!

 

[princeofdarkness]

Ditto and Double Ditto. Justice served by execution.

Thanks J.C., I'll sleep a little better tonight knowing justice was served correctly.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of the young mother.

Peace.

 

[princeofdarkness]

An excerpt from the NY Times on the same case,

"Ms. Zhang’s husband, Wang Hui, had rejected court-ordered compensation of about $6,900 for her death, calling it “money stained with blood.” He pledged to delay Ms. Zhang’s burial until her killer was executed."

 

[HankQuinlan]

What the freak is going on with all the bloodlust in these comments lately, especially with holding up China as a great example of human rights? I am sure the families of the political prisoners and those massacred at Tienanmen would agree. Why don't we just abandon democratic principles altogether? Obviously we just need a firm hand to guide us and keep us in line.

Reading about a random example of some brutal pinhead getting his bullet actually makes someone sleep better?

Why should we even bother with trials?

Why don't we have weekly mass executions in every stadium so that families could enjoy a day out?

Give your heads a shake if you actually hold up China as a good example of how we should organize ourselves. Why not link another story from the same Chinese government mouthpiece as the original link, and hold it up as an example of how to determine our government:
http://en.radio86.com/news/next-generation-chinese-leaders-be-decided-late-next-year

If dreaming of a totalitarian society gets you off, can't you just get into revenge porn like everyone else? "Death Wish" is a classic, and has spawned whole genre.

 

[Lancaster]

What the freak is going on with all the bloodlust in these comments lately, especially with holding up China as a great example of human rights? I am sure the families of the political prisoners and those massacred at Tienanmen would agree. Why don't we just abandon democratic principles altogether? Obviously we just need a firm hand to guide us and keep us in line.

Reading about a random example of some brutal pinhead getting his bullet actually makes someone sleep better?

Why should we even bother with trials?

Why don't we have weekly mass executions in every stadium so that families could enjoy a day out?

Give your heads a shake if you actually hold up China as a good example of how we should organize ourselves. Why not link another story from the same Chinese government mouthpiece as the original link, and hold it up as an example of how to determine our government:
http://en.radio86.com/news/next-generation-chinese-leaders-be-decided-late-next-year

If dreaming of a totalitarian society gets you off, can't you just get into revenge porn like everyone else? "Death Wish" is a classic, and has spawned whole genre.

People don't support unjust executions and stuff based on violation of human rights or other frivolous charges.

In this case, someone intentionally murdered another person to "save money". How can you argue that executing this jerk isn't justified?
Besides, his organs will have saved other lives, lol.

 

[mercyshooter]

If you keep using human rights as excuses, then you are freaking dreaming! China doesn't "open" human rights more than Canada because people will abuse. And then the country will collapse. Hard working people will get killed. And lazy and leech people will survive. Is this what you want?

 

[Unpossible]

I see no reason that their government could have chosen any other punishment

Really? You don't see the irony or are you admitting to being a troll?

How can you argue that executing this jerk isn't justified?

Gee I dunno...maybe it has to do with using murder to punish murder. Kind of a mixed message.

 

[mercyshooter]

Gee I dunno...maybe it has to do with using murder to punish murder. Kind of a mixed message.

If you think there's a mixed message, then that means you did not use your brain juice well.
CHINA DOESN'T WANT THE COUNTRY TO COLLAPSE BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON'S MISTAKE OR WHATEVER! And history tells chinese people that the death penalty is necessary!

 

[princeofdarkness]

Death Penalty for "serious crimes" is the most efficient method of punishment. After all, the "criminal" is much more valuable as parts that can be sold to Western Nations and choice parts so that "Great Leaders" don't have to quit smoking. In fact, if the Western Nations want more transplant-able body parts, the "Great Leader" is willing to make it a Death Penalty offense for a serf or peasant to want to eat.

How true.
Wait a minute, are you saying that wasn't a bbq pork bun I ate this afternoon? Sorry, bad joke.
China's body parts industry is another sad story in itself.

 

[Tugela]

People don't support unjust executions and stuff based on violation of human rights or other frivolous charges.

In this case, someone intentionally murdered another person to "save money". How can you argue that executing this jerk isn't justified?
Besides, his organs will have saved other lives, lol.

Well, he did turn himself in. I don't agree with the death penalty period, but if it is there it should be reserved for the worst criminals and only if there is no remorse and no hope of redemption. That doesnt seem to be the case here. He was young, a lengthy prison sentence would have been more appropriate so that he had time to reflect on it.

Once someone is dead, they can't be punished. You can't take anything away from the dead, but you can take freedom away from the living, and that is a far greater punishment.

 

[grusse]

no chance of the guy re-offending.

 

[greenb]

Well, he did turn himself in. I don't agree with the death penalty period, but if it is there it should be reserved for the worst criminals and only if there is no remorse and no hope of redemption. That doesnt seem to be the case here. He was young, a lengthy prison sentence would have been more appropriate so that he had time to reflect on it.

Once someone is dead, they can't be punished. You can't take anything away from the dead, but you can take freedom away from the living, and that is a far greater punishment.

from what i understand, you are treating this almost like common criminal case. if you read the news article, this guy simply kill the lady over this "peasant woman would be hard to deal with". coldly silence her with 8 stabs of his knife. even though he know that all he needed to do is go home and beg daddy to pay off this lady.

now, the way i see it...this person is a psycho. if you could kill over something as trivial as this, i wouldn't want to imagine the time when someone accidentally spilled coffee over him.. me thinks he will just whip up a gun and shot that person. definitely not something i would like to see.

 

[mercyshooter]

Well, he did turn himself in. I don't agree with the death penalty period, but if it is there it should be reserved for the worst criminals and only if there is no remorse and no hope of redemption. That doesnt seem to be the case here. He was young, a lengthy prison sentence would have been more appropriate so that he had time to reflect on it.

Once someone is dead, they can't be punished. You can't take anything away from the dead, but you can take freedom away from the living, and that is a far greater punishment.

China has a way to punish him even though he's dead. So, not to worry about that part!

no chance of the guy re-offending.

Exactly! why didn't anyone see this coming?! :crazy:

 

[Unpossible]

What surprises me is that posters on here accept a chinese news source as factual. Srsly!?

 

[HeatherMorgan]

I'm pro life sentences.
Death doesn't solve anything.

 

[mercyshooter]

Okay, I've decided to give you all the angles. Here's a theoretical case.

Let's say person A kills person B for whatever reason. Both persons can help out the economy of the country. Both of them has family. If person A just goes to jail for 25 years, then who's gonna support person A's living in jail? So now, I'm gonna let you think deeper. As to the fairness, what should person B's family do? Any effect to the family if person B is the only person who works his ass off to support the family? And i mean only person B's gonna go out to work because what he earns can support the whole family. So now, think deeper again. I bet you there will be one person except me will favor the death penalty.

 

[HankQuinlan]

What you didn't mention is that it was actually person C who killed person B. Person A was just a person "known to police" that was in the wrong place at the wrong time. What person A was actually doing is burglarizing the house of person D. When person A was picked up, person A wasn't about to admit that he doing a burglary, so person A gave the officers a cock and bull story about looking for his sister's pet cat. It didn't take long for the detective to check the cat story and find it false and since person A and his lawyer didn't realize that he was being looked at for the murder of person B, person A thought they could tell the detective that they were actually looking for their wayward spouse. Well that cinched it for the detective because person B matched the sex and description of the imaginary wayward spouse. Consequently, person A was found guilty of murdering person B.

A few months later person C collected the insurance policy on person B and then went to Vegas where they told an "entertainer" what a smart person they were and how they had pulled off the "perfect murder".

After 3 years of appeals, the court reheard the case and released person A because - in Canada - we don't have a death penalty and still had a living person to release.

Do you really think mercyshooter will be able to follow logic? Let me reply for him:

"But what about the families? If you think deeper, someone has to die to make them feel better. In China, this wouldn't be a problem!"

 

[mercyshooter]

Do you really think mercyshooter will be able to follow logic? Let me reply for him:

"But what about the families? If you think deeper, someone has to die to make them feel better. In China, this wouldn't be a problem!"

In China they also follow money trail, and if they found out the whole truth, person A will go to jail for burglary. Person C will get the death penalty.
See the difference? Canada's system has way too many loopholes for criminals or potential criminals to play around with. Therefore, abusing every single rights!
UNDERSTAND CHINESE HISTORY BEFORE MAKING YOUR ARGUMENTS AND DECISIONS! It can kill the whole country. Heard about of chain reaction? It can be fast that you can't even prevent!

 

[rat_fink]

This is NOT the right way to do Justice

Not to hi jack a thread about chinese justice
Instead I want to reply about the right way to do justice.

Khahdafi was simply executed by his captors.
That wasn't justice.

As evidence I suggest the World Court trial of Serbian murderer Milsovkic.
IMHO new evidence and understanding was gained from his trial.

Personally I wanted a Khahdafi trial.

I believe the street execution of the Libyan dictator was unjust.

My $0.02

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