I know you're being glib, but let's actually look at this as members of society, in a real world perspective. Great and all, that say some dude robbed a bank, and because he's addicted to crack, meth and is also using drugs to self medicate his mental health condition, where in a perfect world he'd be in treatment in a hospital or facility where he'd be securely held for his and society's safety. So, he panics, freaks out, does whatever and gets....shot? Because he's so desperate that he thinks the only solution to his problems is to rob a bank. And for that, this guy sho could be your brother, son or dad, is dead. Saved you some dough? The public? You're kind of thinking, though popular for the revenge of the victims of murderers and sex offenders, of which I'm not disputing severe and harsh penalties that are really meted out, people who are like the dude previously mentioned are thrown into the mix...like Texas, where they executed a mentally challenged man for a murder that he didn't understand that he commited....well, that's enough of my soapbox...nighty night.
This is why Canada NEEDS a harsher justice system.
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Sorry mate, you don't rob a bank for solving your crackhead problem! It's a crime. So do the time! Yes, and if someone got killed in the progress, death penalty! You go to China and you'll know! One case is that there's an english man got tricked by drug guys to bring drugs to China. This man is ill and his family knows. China gives him the death penalty and the family wants the government to interfere! Grow up! You should have people to look after him. Blame the drug guys, not Chinese government! So, if you know you will be in trouble, find help!
Evidently the moral is, we should model our laws and human rights legislation on China's.
So, you want to destroy other people's lives? I'm not saying that you are wrong. But in China's defense, that's what make them stronger and as a team. You may call it b.s., but more than 2/3 of the chinese agree to the death penalty. This is not an eye for an eye. It's the most efficient and quickest way to do it. Enjoying life doesn't mean you can kill other people to make it happen. REMEMBER THAT THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON!
So the answer is yes, we should be more like China.
I don't know that you wanna speak for all the victims' families either.
http://wcr.sonoma.edu/v12n1/Mowen.pdf
First sentence is illegal because you have no right to take other people's lives. The second one is legal because the court gives him the death penalty which is a LAW!
I think you are the one who doesn't see the actual meaning!
Well, the USA has death penalty on more than 2/3 of their states! And Canada has to suck up with USA. So we should be more like USA too!
The issue is Canada has nothing to level up to be at the same level as USA and China system-wise for the people! So, no ammos to play real politics like China and USA and most Asian countries.
You don't have to speak for all the victims' families. It's common sense. It's human nature. Do you expect your children to be dead if it's not their time yet or not the way it should be?
The system in here is actually inhumane! So stop talking about morality!
Huh? Perhaps you should read before you post, to check to see if it makes any sense at all. Which is it? Should we be more like the US with its much greater levels of crime and violence, or should we be more like China where you get a quick show trial, an even quicker bullet in the back of the head, and an invoice to the family for the bullet?
That's the authority's job! Canada is too slow on that and causes a lot of pain on the families! I'm not gonna explain further. You wanna know more, do some research. It isn't easy as to why asian countries and usa have death penalty. As to answer your violence and crime thing, it's because of a bigger population. Where there is people, there will be crimes. I bet you that there are more crimes too in Canada with that small population. It's just that they never tell the public how many are attempted. The data that government reports is for those that are proven, but not attempted! So go figure out yourself! Be smart, not stupid!
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harper wants to put you away for 6 months for six pot plants.
We are obviously eager to imprison the wrong people.
Violent criminals and fucking cops need to go to prison
Remember burns lake and YVR
We are obviously eager to imprison the wrong people.
Violent criminals and fucking cops need to go to prison
Remember burns lake and YVR
A few things...
1.) The death penalty doesn't take away the pain of the family, most people don't feel better after it.
2.) Population size has nothing to do it with it. That is why we use per 100,000 stats to compare different sized population centers. If you are worry about population size then just compare Canadian cities with similar sizes American ones. Ask yourself why American cities almost always have higher violent crime rates. (but those Americans can't compare to our car theft rates, we Canadians just love to steal cars)
Some stats
Toronto 3.3 murders per 100,000
Detroit 33.8
Chicago 15.5
3.) They don't tell the public how many were attempted? That makes no sense, attempted murder is still a crime. If someone tries to kill me I would call the police.
4.) Now compare violent crimes between US States. Not every State has the death penalty.
US States with Death Penalty 4.6 per 100,000 people
US States without Death Penalty 2.9 per 100,000 people
New York State doesn't have the death penalty and their murder rate is not far off from Toronto.
5.) Criminologists who belong to the American Society of Criminology, the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences, and the Law and Society Association were polled. Over 80% believe that our current knowledge does not indicate a deterrent effect. 75% felt that increasing the numbers of executions or decreasing time spent on death row would not result in a deterrence. While 67% of U.S. police chiefs do not believe that the death penalty significantly reduces the numbers of murders.
The only reason for the death penalty is an eye for an eye.
That's what every single human being has! Now it's humane and it's all clean again. Like I said, a lot have to be considered! But when it comes to a lightning fast answer, what do you prefer? No thinking at all!
