Right now I'm taking a break from this. i've looked through Escort ads and there isn't any body who jumps out at me. I would much rather score with normal women I see on the streets, malls or where ever. Easier said than done I know! Yeah paying for sex is much easier but with SP's its all to mechanical. That and I hate when the girl shows up and I sit there and count up the money for her... I dont know... to me its a bit pathetic. But that's just how I feel about it. There are some hot internet models who I know of in the US and some porn stars who I would be interested in meeting up with. But other then that I'm loosing interest in this.
Do you ever feel guilty or ashamed for paying for sex?
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Don't feel guilty for paying. On that note, scoring with women you see on the streets is great, but you're still paying. I think it's more pathetic that a guy is sniffing around 'normal' (there's that word again) women hoping to get laid, taking them out for dinner, drinks, dancing, movies....listening to all the gossip about people they know but you've never met, nor really have any connection to, holding her dog/purse/drink as she goes to the bathroom/shops/texts/checks makeup/etc. And still doesn't get laid.
And, XXXBod....doubt those internet models on your screen are aware that you exist, man. Sorry.
Hi Jasmine - while I agree with your assessment in general I wnat to make a point about women who claim to want NSA sex because in my experience that's a lie too - they may claim to want just a romp in the sack but are really looking to trick a man into a relationship. Sometimes this tactic works, more often it does not, and either way brings on more heartache because it starts with a lie. Now that it's more socially acceptable for women to admit to being horny, NSA sex appears to be something younger women feel ok with asking for but I'm still convinced that it's just another (dishonest) avenue to the same goal. If there is an emotional connection and the sex is good, relationship is still the desired outcome. The exception would be married and bored or married and dissatified but even that will lead to a relationship. A different kind of relationship with different rules but a relationship just the same. I do not believe that women are (as a rule) able to overcome or ignore their most basic nature any more than a man is. In the end it's all about making babies and how our respective hormones drive us in that direction.
Whether buying or selling sex, I think some may feel bad simply because most of us are socially conditioned to think its wrong.
Other people may feel guilt or shame because they know the "hobby" allows them to dodge other problems in their lives.
As adults we make our choices, and sleep in the bed we make (so to speak), so be responsible. Sex for money is an honest and straightforward transaction but sometimes affected by other implications. Only the individual can judge if its right or wrong.
What I disagree with is the notion that non-sp women need to be "tricked or used" into having sex for the sake of sex. It really makes women sound like victims.
Most women will respect a guy for being upfront about not wanting a relationship, and believe me we hear it all the time. The woman most motivated by sex will pick the most attractive one nighter, and the one most motivated by money will go home with the one driving the most expensive car
QUOT: And, XXXBod....doubt those internet models on your screen are aware that you exist, man. Sorry.
Look up Cindy Pucci.com... I already hooked up with her. She's not even a provider either. She's an adult model/feauture dancer and cam/Internet model. And no I'm not bull shitting on that either. And No I'm saying I didn't pay her. But she's not an Escort. She has to feel something for you and be comfertable enough with you. She wont just hook up with any one who throws money at her. Also look up April Kisses... She IS a provider and I haven't met her yet but she has emialed me a few times so i could go out to were she is on tour and meet up with her. These are the kind of women I would pay to have sex with. And as far as your paying for meals, drinks, taking "normal" girls out to dinner... Have you never picked up a gril in a club and had a one night stand before...? I have. Not that often but I have done it.
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Look up Cindy Pucci.com... I already hooked up with her. She's not even a provider either. She's an adult model/feauture dancer and cam/Internet model. And no I'm not bull shitting on that either. And No I'm saying I didn't pay her. But she's not an Escort. She has to feel something for you and be comfertable enough with you. She wont just hook up with any one who throws money at her. Also look up April Kisses... She IS a provider and I haven't met her yet but she has emialed me a few times so i could go out to were she is on tour and meet up with her. These are the kind of women I would pay to have sex with. And as far as your paying for meals, drinks, taking "normal" girls out to dinner... Have you never picked up a gril in a club and had a one night stand before...? I have. Not that often but I have done it.
Cheers
I think you are confused. If you are paying for it, to me at least, it doesn't matter if they are stripper, model, actress or SP, it's all the same. You are trying to make that distinction so you feel better about it, good for you..
No guilt on my part. Do I feel like a loser? Hmmm, not really, I've had opportunities to get into relationships, but I know I'm not ready or interested in being in a relationship at this point in my life, so I don't want to sneak around to see SPs, cause than I would feel guilt of going behind someones back.
Actually, the very first time I went, I thought I would feel guilt or shame afterwards, but surprisingly I felt nothing. Maybe I'm more of a shut off asshole than I thought I was.
Actually, the very first time I went, I thought I would feel guilt or shame afterwards, but surprisingly I felt nothing. Maybe I'm more of a shut off asshole than I thought I was.
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I would only feel ashamed if someone ratted me out that I paid for sex. I feel guilty if I wasted my money on someone who wasn't attractive and gave horrible GFE.
You missed the obvious fact that paying an SP for sex when the SO doles it out like it is a treat once a month is far cheaper/easier than a costly divorce as well as child support.
SR
Man... a lot of you guys must have had miserable marriages and relationships. If your wife/girl friend wont put out and is such a miserable c*nt, then why would you marry her in the first place? I only pay for this because its just too hard for me to get into a relationship.
I don't feel guilty or ashamed for paying for it. I More accurately feel like I should not have done it because it's such an inefficient use of my money. Normally when I pay that much money for something (anything) I get a return that lasts weeks or months or longer.
e.g. $300 for an hour with an attractive lady v. $300 for a Roy Halladay jersey I still have over a year later
I get more return out of the jersey than I do the hour.
However, I still go back.
Clearly something is wrong with me.
e.g. $300 for an hour with an attractive lady v. $300 for a Roy Halladay jersey I still have over a year later
I get more return out of the jersey than I do the hour.
However, I still go back.
Clearly something is wrong with me.
K I got a question that might be a bit off topic here but I'm sure most guys on here have had there share of bad experences... I could tell you one hell of a horror story that happended to me back in 06 in Houstin TX but I wont go there... All I will say is after that I told my self I would NEVER get involved in this ever again.
But lets say your looking on the Internet or worse the Yellow Pages, and you see an add or see a girl on the Interenet your interested in seeing, of course the minute she showes up she wants the money up front on a table or some place...
But the thing is, over the phone you can't decuss "details" on what she will or will not do. She shows up, she doesn't even look like her photos, she gets naked, she has a pot belly, tits are saggy, you can tell she's "used" up... The sex is not great, she's just a dead lay and you just blew $280.00 bucks or more...
Once she gets naked and you start with Oral or she gets on top and thats when you find out she sucks! You can't get your money back right? Because you already started having sex. AND here is another beef I have... Your paying for the full hour right? So, how many guys can actually fuck for a whole hour and not cum?? I mean come on are we porn stars here? So, what if you blow your load in like 10-15 or 20 mins and tha's it.
She gets dressed, says have a nice day and leaves and you just paied $300-$400 for the hour that you didn't even get. Most SP's will only let you batter up one time. After that they will charge you for another hour. That is what is such a rip off and why I dont like paying for this. You can book for two hours I suppose if you want to spend the money or you can just book for a half hour but are you really getting that much out of it for the half hour? Some SP's will only book for a full hour.
But lets say your looking on the Internet or worse the Yellow Pages, and you see an add or see a girl on the Interenet your interested in seeing, of course the minute she showes up she wants the money up front on a table or some place...
But the thing is, over the phone you can't decuss "details" on what she will or will not do. She shows up, she doesn't even look like her photos, she gets naked, she has a pot belly, tits are saggy, you can tell she's "used" up... The sex is not great, she's just a dead lay and you just blew $280.00 bucks or more...
Once she gets naked and you start with Oral or she gets on top and thats when you find out she sucks! You can't get your money back right? Because you already started having sex. AND here is another beef I have... Your paying for the full hour right? So, how many guys can actually fuck for a whole hour and not cum?? I mean come on are we porn stars here? So, what if you blow your load in like 10-15 or 20 mins and tha's it.
She gets dressed, says have a nice day and leaves and you just paied $300-$400 for the hour that you didn't even get. Most SP's will only let you batter up one time. After that they will charge you for another hour. That is what is such a rip off and why I dont like paying for this. You can book for two hours I suppose if you want to spend the money or you can just book for a half hour but are you really getting that much out of it for the half hour? Some SP's will only book for a full hour.
QUOTE: Usually, it was the presence of another person.
I here ya there man! I get very paranoid and will even cancel when I'm doing incall and I'm talking to the girl and I here a guy in the backround... Fact is this can be a shady and even dangerous business to get into when you dont know the person your dealing with... I get board with the same perosn over and over again so that's why I like variety.
I here ya there man! I get very paranoid and will even cancel when I'm doing incall and I'm talking to the girl and I here a guy in the backround... Fact is this can be a shady and even dangerous business to get into when you dont know the person your dealing with... I get board with the same perosn over and over again so that's why I like variety.
Do I feel Guilty?
No
Ripped off yes!!!..
Dating outside of my SP world is the fastest way to kill a good relationship. I take on all the tasks of a typical 50's housewife, and have to deal with your mother. For the amount of sex that gets me its not even worth it, trust me! In this day and age when your still in the dating, yet living together mode (No ring or real commitment). Women are expected to contribute half to household finances and still do all the domestic things, and then you come home tired from work, your secretary, mothers nagging or family problems and don't want to have sex. What happens next boarders on rape, on the part of the woman.
So take clothes to the cleaners, order in, hire a maid and if you mother, 'god bless her soul' fell down a flight of stairs. We would have a great relationship and I would pay YOU for sex, because I would be living the happiest life possible.
No
Ripped off yes!!!..
Dating outside of my SP world is the fastest way to kill a good relationship. I take on all the tasks of a typical 50's housewife, and have to deal with your mother. For the amount of sex that gets me its not even worth it, trust me! In this day and age when your still in the dating, yet living together mode (No ring or real commitment). Women are expected to contribute half to household finances and still do all the domestic things, and then you come home tired from work, your secretary, mothers nagging or family problems and don't want to have sex. What happens next boarders on rape, on the part of the woman.
So take clothes to the cleaners, order in, hire a maid and if you mother, 'god bless her soul' fell down a flight of stairs. We would have a great relationship and I would pay YOU for sex, because I would be living the happiest life possible.
I have had wonderful relationship sex , and wonderful hooker sex.
I always paid , one way or another.
just ask Tiger Woods.
I always paid , one way or another.
just ask Tiger Woods.
Rather then participate in the typical "Woman are always trying to trick men into relationships so paying for sex is a better deal" misogyny that always rears it's ugly head in threads like this, I'll answer the thread header question honestly.
I don't feel guilty or ashamed at buying sex. I also don't tell my friends or advertise about doing this either since there is a social stigma still attached to it. I simply refer to this activity as play dates, and keep it vague if it comes up in conversation. That's really what it is for me, some may chose to spend money going on a ski trip or something, I choose to do this. I have some very stressful health issues and other things with family members that leave me little time to pursue a "proper" relationship. Having been in long term relationships, I know that it would be a bad idea to currently attempt one now, for both myself and the lady. I've done the one nighter thing and don't care for them (emotionally awkward, not necessarily as safe), so I choose to pay for sex with SPs since I can selfishly indulge myself (and hopefully the ladies...) while still meeting my normal needs as a human being. That would be intimate contact. I like that there is a contract involved, that it's a no strings attached thing and very little pressure. I do not see the woman as substitute masturbation toys to be catalogued and used, notched on a belt. Nor do I see them as future potential wives in some weird fantasy. I see them as woman, who for whatever reason, chose this profession to earn money, and respect them for the choice. It was probably a difficult choice, and hopefully a healthy one for them as an individual. (The couple SPs I see appear to have very level heads and plans.)
I consider myself very fortunate to have found a few SPs (I basically see two with any regularity, the few times I've strayed have been based on their recommends) that I genuinely like to see. I feel that if we met outside of this business, we could of been friends (a long shot admittedly since I'm a burly handsome man and there's an age difference) and respect the contract of our sessions. I feel that they see me the same way, and I do so while also understanding and knowing that the money I spend is a large part of that feeling. I've learned about myself and the world through this hobby, and I value it and the escape it provides.
If I meet someone outside of this and a relationship forms (you never know, I've had such things happen before when not looking) then I'll stop paying for sex. I hope when that happens I'll still be able to keep in touch since I do consider the the SPs friends, even if I do pay them by the hour to see them. I will fully understand if they tell me that this would not be possible. If from some bizarre fate lottery one of the SPs I see asked to see me outside of the business, I would give her the same fair chance I would give any woman in my life with no expectations.
That's how I feel about the act of paying for sex. My 2 cents.
I don't feel guilty or ashamed at buying sex. I also don't tell my friends or advertise about doing this either since there is a social stigma still attached to it. I simply refer to this activity as play dates, and keep it vague if it comes up in conversation. That's really what it is for me, some may chose to spend money going on a ski trip or something, I choose to do this. I have some very stressful health issues and other things with family members that leave me little time to pursue a "proper" relationship. Having been in long term relationships, I know that it would be a bad idea to currently attempt one now, for both myself and the lady. I've done the one nighter thing and don't care for them (emotionally awkward, not necessarily as safe), so I choose to pay for sex with SPs since I can selfishly indulge myself (and hopefully the ladies...) while still meeting my normal needs as a human being. That would be intimate contact. I like that there is a contract involved, that it's a no strings attached thing and very little pressure. I do not see the woman as substitute masturbation toys to be catalogued and used, notched on a belt. Nor do I see them as future potential wives in some weird fantasy. I see them as woman, who for whatever reason, chose this profession to earn money, and respect them for the choice. It was probably a difficult choice, and hopefully a healthy one for them as an individual. (The couple SPs I see appear to have very level heads and plans.)
I consider myself very fortunate to have found a few SPs (I basically see two with any regularity, the few times I've strayed have been based on their recommends) that I genuinely like to see. I feel that if we met outside of this business, we could of been friends (a long shot admittedly since I'm a burly handsome man and there's an age difference
) and respect the contract of our sessions. I feel that they see me the same way, and I do so while also understanding and knowing that the money I spend is a large part of that feeling. I've learned about myself and the world through this hobby, and I value it and the escape it provides.If I meet someone outside of this and a relationship forms (you never know, I've had such things happen before when not looking) then I'll stop paying for sex. I hope when that happens I'll still be able to keep in touch since I do consider the the SPs friends, even if I do pay them by the hour to see them. I will fully understand if they tell me that this would not be possible. If from some bizarre fate lottery one of the SPs I see asked to see me outside of the business, I would give her the same fair chance I would give any woman in my life with no expectations.
That's how I feel about the act of paying for sex. My 2 cents.
