This question is simple, PAY HIGH TIPS, yes, the more money you pay the sp, the more they will like you. Conversation skills, manner are less important here, just do not be too disrespectful.
What makes a guy a "high value" client?
- Thread starter huggzy
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HB40 has never used a "Player's Card"? Nor bought more than one home from the same realtor? Bought multiple cars from the same salesguy?Good grief, you are some kind of idiot huggzy.
That's ok HB40...some people will never "get it".
These are people not cars. I don't understand what you are looking for with this thread? Are you looking to justify requiring incentives from sps you see in order to continue seeing them? Are you trying to find the magic $$ amount that qualifies you for incentive programs with sps? Do you not understand that they set rates that they are comfortable with getting for every visit, and that their expenses for some are predetermined and they have no room for discounts, or even extra time or anything? Do you get lonelygoers advice that in order to get more you have to spend more per visit above the donation rate??
lol
What kind of perks are you getting from your realtor anyway....
Again, why the hostility. I have not once implied that I "expect" anything more than what was promised in the transaction.
But you know what is really nice - when I check in for my room at the Bellagio and they upgrade me (without my asking) to a suite overlooking the fountain - just because they swiped my players card. I didn't ask for it. They just did it.
My realtor does all sorts of "free" research for me all the time. Free appraisals. He does far more than what he can do for everyone but he didn't offer that until I started repeating.
Why is this concept so upsetting...I'm only asking what that threshold is (if any)?
Its just a question. No need for people to get to name-calling.
Its not about expectations (I've never had any expectations previously...like I said in my initial post, I just thought about it recently). Its about SP initiative.
Some SP's have initiative - some don't. That's ok.
Do you even read what you write? I haven't the time to quote all your posts, but you are implying exactly that you expect more. The fact that you refuse to accept the ladies' answers proves that you still 'expect' there to be more to it.
Guys like you are precisely why SP's are not going to give or admit to extras. What happens when you are getting an extra and then find out another client is still getting more, you see there would be no end to it and guys would just get jealous and vindictive. For an SP it is a good business model to give every client the same level of service, if you want more than that the simple answer is you CAN'T be a client. Make sense?
Do you understand the difference in asking about a scenario between a person who has expectations of "someone", compared to asking about an alternative situation where that same "someone" takes an initiative for that person who doesn't have any expectations?
Apparently not.
I WAS ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS INITIATIVE EXISTS for some women, idiot. It exists in other businesses, so why wouldn't it exist here?
We know "extras" exist. Why are you pretending they don't?
A couple ladies answered the question, but I know they don't necessarily have to represent the whole industry. Why not just let the question stand and debate it instead of getting into unwarranted personal attacks
This was your question...
You seem to be confusing initiative with incentive. I would explain it to you but...
Why don't you try quoting the entire passage so you can get it in the right context instead of just taking an excerpt so that it can suit your argument? I would explain the importance of this to you but...This was your question...
You seem to be confusing initiative with incentive. I would explain it to you but...
Question for the ladies...
How much in fees per month does a guy need to spend with you to be considered a "highly valued" client of yours relative to most of your other clientelle - assuming you are judging "value" from a strictly revenue earned perspective? How many times a month, or how many hours a month, does a repeat client see you for you to consider him to be worthy of additional consideration by you.
Of course "value" with respect to a client obviously would typically be judged by you considering many other factors as well - your attraction to him, your chemistry, his attitude, personality, friendliness and charm, etc..
However, from just a strictly business standpoint, assuming the client is a good, clean, hygienic and respectful client who you get along well with...how much does a guy have to spend to be considered a "higher valued" guy? Of course we know that the politically correct answer for the ladies in this business would be to say that all clients are valued...but that's a given assumption so for fun lets not use that answer!
I was just wondering...I suppose I might spend a modest amount (maybe $400/mth), but I was thinking about this the other day - that's a car payment. But by the sounds of what I read from the comments on this site, that might not be considered very much compared to other guys in this industry.
Just wondering
That would make sense if the context from the entire passage was any different than the one from the excerpt I used.
It makes sense dude. You just have comprehension issues.
The question is not concerning a client expectations. Its a question asking if there are SP's who consciously step up their game for highly valued clients in order to maintain them as clients, irrespective of the clients' expectations.
Most businesses don't treat a client who sees them consistently 4 times a month the same as a client who sees them on a one off. Why is it such a controversial question for you if I'm asking the board if SP's view this business in the same way? And ask them how often is it that a client sees an SP for them to consider them to be an above average value to them to make that consideration?
(Note: I'll be very honest, I didn't read page 3 as I'm not in the mood for conflict today
but here are my comments to page 1-2. lol)Huggzy: I believe Cuteangie was responding to Lonelygoer genius advice, not your comments.
- I think Huggzy is trying to find out where he falls on the sp's scale of valuable.
- He's getting frustrated because no one will give him the breakdown of how much $ one at the top of the scale (the most valuable to an sp) typically spends, and he believes this will give him an idea of where he stands with his $400/month.
- Problem is there is no such scale, and he's not getting that other factors actually make a client valuable and they have nothing to do with the specific amount they spend.
- I don't value a regular who spends $200/month (A) less than a regular who spends $400 (B) in the same time frame.
That said.. Are there girls out there who will deem (B) more valuable than (A) strictly based on how much they spend and use that logic to determine who they prefer... I don't doubt that there are. But that isn't someone who's very good at what she does or very savvy in how she handles her business.
Personally, I love regulars and I don't think any girl will tell you any different. Whether I see someone once a year or once a month, there's no more or less "value" because of the frequency of visits or amounts paid. For many of us, there is no such "scale". Be respectful, clean and that's what will make you a valuable repeat client. No tips necessary or expected, maybe a few compliments...and you're set.
Don't listen to Lonelygoer, he doesn't know what he's talking about if he thinks that tips are what will make an sp appreciate and value your visits.
Thanks for the rational reply Bijou. That's appreciated.
Note: I'll be very honest, I didn't read page 3 as I'm not in the mood for conflict today
Huggzy: I believe Cuteangie was responding to Lonelygoer genius advice, not your comments.
- I think Huggzy is trying to find out where he falls on the sp's scale of valuable.
- He's getting frustrated because no one will give him the breakdown of how much $ one at the top of the scale (the most valuable to an sp) typically spends, and he believes this will give him an idea of where he stands with his $400/month.
- Problem is there is no such scale, and he's not getting that other factors actually make a client valuable and they have nothing to do with the specific amount they spend.
- I don't value a regular who spends $200/month (A) less than a regular who spends $400 (B) in the same time frame.
That said.. Are there girls out there who will deem (B) more valuable than (A) strictly based on how much they spend and use that logic to determine who they prefer... I don't doubt that there are. But that isn't someone who's very good at what she does or very savy in how she handles her business.
Personally, I love regulars and I don't think any girl will tell you any different. Whether I see someone once a year or once a month, there's no more or less "value" because of the frequency of visits or amounts paid. For many of us, there is not such "scale". Be respectful, clean and that's what will make you a valuable repeat client. No tips necessary or expected, maybe a few compliments...and you're set.
Don't listen to Lonelygoer, he doesn't know what he's talking about if he thinks that tips are what will make an sp appreciate and value your visits.
I am not asking this question to evaluate necessarily where I might stand personally. I only mentioned my budget just because I never considered it in the context of how much I spend every month, and how much that might actually be valued by an SP (ie. the comment I made about a car payment). Its only when I put that together where I started thinking about this question.
Personally, based on what I hear about what some of the guys spend on this board, I'd assume I'd probably not be considered that highly on that "SP scale" you mentioned based on how much I spend (but I guess it'd be interesting to know where that budget would fall if it was spent on one lady all the time, rather than spread around). It seems there are guys here that can afford far more than I do, and spend far more than I do. However, they may not necessarily spend all that at one place either.
That's why I was asking the question. Does many a lady here step her game up if the guy reciprocates by seeing her more? I'm not asking to identify how these SP's would step it up (maybe it is better service/attitude/attentiveness, or more extras, or maybe they do extra planning, or make concessions for hours...I don't know.) But I know in the service industry there are always situations which come up, and you just know you would do far more for some clients than others.
I really find it hard to believe that an SP wouldn't go that extra mile for a guy spending a $1000/mth on her each and every month versus a one time client - no matter how well that one time client clicked with her.
And I'm getting frustrated by posters here accusing me of asking about bbfs, or suggesting my question is intended to insult SP's, of having insults hurled at me, or being told that this is asking an unreasonable question, period.
Oh I get it, sorry huggzy, I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes.
You're just insecure and sensitive with a fragile ego, always misunderstood.
Poor guy, come on girls just tell him he only needs to spend his 400 dollars on 2 seperate 1/2 hour sessions and he'll be your favourite.
Seriously...what the fuck is your problem????Oh I get it, sorry huggzy, I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes.
You're just insecure and sensitive with a fragile ego, always misunderstood.
Poor guy, come on girls just tell him he only needs to spend his 400 dollars on 2 seperate 1/2 hour sessions and he'll be your favourite.
LOL, sorry buddy, but like I said to your pm....
You're a putz. I don't really like you because you accuse others of not comprehending or reading when you do the same, you are totally insensitive and wrong about the Pickton case, the question you asked is stupid, think about it, no SP wants to admit she gives special service and no guy wants to hear that his SP is giving special services to another guy, plus you use the word irrespective too much, that just bugs me. Other than that you're not such a bad sort....why do you ask?
Oh, there you go. HB40 just informed me that he is being a complete douche because I'm defending the judicial process in the Pickton thread.Oh I get it, sorry huggzy, I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes.
You're just insecure and sensitive with a fragile ego, always misunderstood.
Poor guy, come on girls just tell him he only needs to spend his 400 dollars on 2 seperate 1/2 hour sessions and he'll be your favourite.
Grow the fuck up, douchebag.
So you admit that its out there - but suggest that an SP couldn't "admit" to providing more value to her clients in a public forum if that client spends more than normal on her? How immature is that thinking?
And if you know it happens out there then why not allow the fucking question to be asked, moron?
