What makes a guy a "high value" client?

[huggzy]

Question for the ladies...

How much in fees per month does a guy need to spend with you to be considered a "highly valued" client of yours relative to most of your other clientelle - assuming you are judging "value" from a strictly revenue earned perspective? How many times a month, or how many hours a month, does a repeat client see you for you to consider him to be worthy of additional consideration by you.

Of course "value" with respect to a client obviously would typically be judged by you considering many other factors as well - your attraction to him, your chemistry, his attitude, personality, friendliness and charm, etc..

However, from just a strictly business standpoint, assuming the client is a good, clean, hygienic and respectful client who you get along well with...how much does a guy have to spend to be considered a "higher valued" guy? Of course we know that the politically correct answer for the ladies in this business would be to say that all clients are valued...but that's a given assumption so for fun lets not use that answer!

I was just wondering...I suppose I might spend a modest amount (maybe $400/mth), but I was thinking about this the other day - that's a car payment. But by the sounds of what I read from the comments on this site, that might not be considered very much compared to other guys in this industry.

Just wondering

 

[mistressfreyja]

Someone that not only repeats, but that I enjoy their company, and have good sexual times with.

Respect, mostly. On both sides of the coin.

 

[huggzy]

I guess my question is, for you as a provider, is a client who repeats once a month for an hour considered a regular, high valued client? Repeats every six months for an 8 hour session? Repeats every week? Repeats 3 x ever, irrespective of length of session? You get my drift?

Of course a client may not be valued by you at all if they're a dick and you just don't enjoy their company. But if the guy's easy enough to provide for, what regularity (or revenue) is considered above "typical" where you might just go that extra mile for them, much like other businesses might do for their high valued clients?

 

[mistressfreyja]

I never go the extra mile of BBFS. EVER.

No one could pay me enough.

Am I misunderstanding where you are treading with this?

Why does it matter? If you are valued, you know so. And, also why. Respect.

I'm just bitchy post-Pickton post.

I guess my question is, for you as a provider, is a client who repeats once a month considered a regular, high valued client? Repeats every six months? Repeats every week? Repeats 3 x ever?

Of course a client may not be valued by you at all if they're a dick and you just don't enjoy their company. But if the guy's easy enough to provide for, what regularity (or revenue) is considered above "typical" where you might just go that extra mile for them, much like other businesses might do for their high valued clients?

 

[huggzy]

I have regular clients, they come see me weekly, bi weekly and some once a month. I do not consider them high value clients. They are clients just like the other guys.

Yes they see me regularily so I know there likes ansd dislikes, we have a good respectful trust "business" relationship. Yes I have a somewhat bond/chemistry with them as we have gotten to know each other. However it is always business/client.

But why wouldn't you place a higher value for their business than the one time visitor? I don't understand that?

Honestly some men do spend alot of money especially those who see me once a week however I offer low rates all inclusive, so I am some what affordable for them to see me often.

But there you go!! You do value your regulars more - which is why you provide them discounted rates in exchange for volume if they come weekly...this is what I was getting at!

 

[mistressfreyja]

What is your intent in this post?

Where are you going?

Supply/Demand...free market....Really, what is to understand?

But why wouldn't you place a higher value for their business than the one time visitor? I don't understand that?





But there you go!! You do value your regulars more - which is why you provide them discounted rates in exchange for volume if they come weekly...this is what I was getting at!

 

[huggzy]

I never go the extra mile of BBFS. EVER.

No one could pay me enough.

Am I misunderstanding where you are treading with this?

Why does it matter? If you are valued, you know so. And, also why. Respect.

I'm just bitchy post-Pickton post.

Yup, you certainly made a specific inference that I never implied. I suppose that there may be ladies out there that do provide bbfs as "going the extra mile" (is that a code phrase in this industry that I wasn't aware of before?!!)

Some providers will do different types of extra things for their "valued" clients though. Some will always have your favorite drink stocked up. Others will just ignore the clock. Some throw in the odd freebie here and there. Some are just extra friendlier and put in that much more effort.

Just like the BMW dealer who throws in the free loaner car for the regular client when your vehicle is in service, or the business client who gets the free ski chalet when he's in town...

 

[mistressfreyja]

Fair enough.

Again, Pickton-post makes me angry.

And, as I said before....it's all about RESPECT.

And, Respect is not asking us nor expecting freebies.

There is no code...I'm still just unsure of your intent in this post.

I love my regulars. We have better and better sessions together cuz we've spent time getting to know each other.

Don't expect freebies though. There is no coupon system.

Yup, you certainly made a specific inference that I never implied. I suppose that there may be ladies out there that do provide bbfs as "going the extra mile" (is that a code phrase in this industry that I wasn't aware of before?!!)

Some providers will do different types of extra things for their "valued" clients though. Some will always have your favorite drink stocked up. Others will just ignore the clock. Some throw in the odd freebie here and there. Some are just extra friendlier and put in that much more effort.

Just like the BMW dealer who throws in the free loaner car for the regular client when your vehicle is in service, or the business client who gets the free ski chalet when he's in town...

 

[huggzy]

What is your intent in this post?

Where are you going?

Supply/Demand...free market....Really, what is to understand?

Why the hostility? Its just a question. There's no ulterior, hidden agenda.

Just wondering if a guy (such as myself) who spends $400/mth with one lady might be considered "high valued" compared to the typical client in the industry for a provider, or is $400/mth chump change.

 

[mistressfreyja]

I apologize about the hostility.

I just feel wound up regarding the Pickton thread.

I'm sorry I judged you based on your statements in that thread.

And to answer your question, of course you are valued. You don't need to save my life nor my rent to be valued. Just respect me, and I will reciprocate.

Why the hostility? Its just a question. There's no ulterior, hidden agenda.

Just wondering if a guy (such as myself) who spends $400/mth with one lady might be considered "high valued" compared to the typical client in the industry for a provider, or is $400/mth chump change.

 

[huggzy]

Fair enough.

Again, Pickton-post makes me angry.

And, as I said before....it's all about RESPECT.

And, Respect is not asking us nor expecting freebies.

There is no code...I'm still just unsure of your intent in this post.

I love my regulars. We have better and better sessions together cuz we've spent time getting to know each other.

Don't expect freebies though. There is no coupon system.

I never said that a guy should ask or expect freebies specifically. But some ladies do provide above and beyond for their clients in many cases (apparently not you though) and it would be nice to know what it takes to be percieved as a good enough client to see that extra service (the form of the "over and above" isn't necessarily the topic started, but I guess it would be nice to know what some girls do for their special clients), or maybe discounts, or something else.

 

[huggzy]

I apologize about the hostility.

I just feel wound up regarding the Pickton thread.

I'm sorry I judged you based on your statements in that thread.

And to answer your question, of course you are valued. You don't need to save my life nor my rent to be valued. Just respect me, and I will reciprocate.

You also misinterpreted my statements in that thread too. Take a deep breath and let the oxygen flow to the head a bit.

 

[huggzy]

That is not what I meant. My rates are flat rates all inclusive all clients one timers and regulars always pay the same rate. Yes some clients regulars bring me Salmon lots of it yummy, wine, flowers, and tips. My tips if I get any and some and the money I do bring in I always take 10-20 from it and it goes to charity. I am constantly raising money for charities doing food drives for food banks.
No one ever gets special treatment or discounts. I do not will not ever for all the money in the world offerr BBFS.

No one pays more and no one pays less. No deals unless I decide to have a special which I rarely do.
Except this month I am offering a free session and a date to the music fest. However that has brought in overwhelming responce so I won't offer that again.
I am a low volume SP.
I only see 2 sometimes 3 clients a day.

Yes, my apologies. I did misunderstand you.

But if a guy was spending $1,000/mth with you, are you saying that you wouldn't value him more than most guys? $3,000/mth? $10,000/mth? What is that threshold (if there is any?) where you as a provider might do more (ie. maybe work outside of your standard hours, or cook for the guy, or make him feel like a real "boyfriend" and look for ways to surprise him, or send him the odd text "thinking of him", etc.? I don't know...).

Do you have clients that are like that now? If you don't, would your business maybe improve for the better if you did start thinking about it a little more (maybe you might be losing high value clients because you might not consider it that much?)

But every good business has a customer retention "program" (some are more formal, others less so and played more by feel) for valued clients. And some providers do this too - some do it quite deliberately and I suppose others may do it less consciously (or sub-consiously even) as well.

 

[Pillowtalk]

Yes, my apologies. I did misunderstand you.

But if a guy was spending $1,000/mth with you, are you saying that you wouldn't value him more than most guys? $3,000/mth? $10,000/mth? What is that threshold (if there is any?) where you as a provider might do more (ie. maybe work outside of your standard hours, or cook for the guy, or make him feel like a real "boyfriend" and look for ways to surprise him, or send him the odd text "thinking of him", etc.? I don't know...).

Do you have clients that are like that now? If you don't, would your business maybe improve for the better if you did start thinking about it a little more (maybe you might be losing high value clients because you might not consider it that much?)

But every good business has a customer retention "program" (some are more formal, others less so and played more by feel) for valued clients. And some providers do this too - some do it quite deliberately and I suppose others may do it less consciously (or sub-consiously even) as well.

I think you are trying to link $$ to an intangible thing like what sps consider valuable in a client. Probably they prefer someone reliable, who repeats, and is clean and respectful. What he pays is immaterial if that is in place. If an sp is putting how much he spends in front of her preference to who she sees over someone else, or provides him with more perks than anyone else, then she is not an equal opportunity sp and imo is not a very good one. cuteangie has the right attitude because everyone new or not pays the same and gets the same attention, and that is why guys will go back to see her again. They know they don't have to spend 1000 bucks a month, or 300 bucks per visit, to get her best efforts, right?

If you are expecting discounts and freebies, like buy 9 get 1 free kind of things, then stick with the coffee shops not sps.

I don't think 400 a month is chump change btw. For some sps that is one visit a month, sure, others it might be 3-4. Your value isn't in the $$ spent, just the fact that you come back.

 

[huggzy]

I think you are trying to link $$ to an intangible thing like what sps consider valuable in a client. Probably they prefer someone reliable, who repeats, and is clean and respectful. What he pays is immaterial if that is in place. If an sp is putting how much he spends in front of her preference to who she sees over someone else, or provides him with more perks than anyone else, then she is not an equal opportunity sp and imo is not a very good one. cuteangie has the right attitude because everyone new or not pays the same and gets the same attention, and that is why guys will go back to see her again. They know they don't have to spend 1000 bucks a month, or 300 bucks per visit, to get her best efforts, right?

If you are expecting discounts and freebies, like buy 9 get 1 free kind of things, then stick with the coffee shops not sps.

I don't think 400 a month is chump change btw. For some sps that is one visit a month, sure, others it might be 3-4. Your value isn't in the $$ spent, just the fact that you come back.

Siggggggggggghhhhhhh...I had this problem with my ex as well. Its like they don't hear half of what you say...

OK...I guess my original post wasnt that clear so I'll try restating a few things again for clarity and maybe we can narrow the focus of the discussion a little bit!

ASSUMPTIONS:

1) assume that you click with the client already!! Let's take all other factors that an SP may judge value in a client out of the equation - assume that the guy is your ideal client.
2) assume that your client HAS NO EXPECTATIONS OF ANYTHING - freebies, extra services, etc.
3) assume that all guys think logically and rationally rather than emotionally - and expect that all men are aware that if a client spends more that guy may possibly get more, but not expect it ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL


"Best efforts" is a subjective phrase. A person in any industry can always do better than their "standard" effort when providing a service, even if their standard service is outstanding. A gf in a relationship with a bf may always be a great girlfriend, but when she finds "the one" - you'd be surprised at how much more a person can do when motivated. Business relationships are no different, and I'd assume that everyone here recognizes that the relationships in the industry are business relationships.

Or do none of the sp's think like that? (I know that's not true, because I've experienced it with some ladies)

A

 

[HB40]

Siggggggggggghhhhhhh...I had this problem with my ex as well. Its like they don't hear half of what you say...

Then try listening to what they are saying, repeat client = valued client. Sp's value all their clients, someone who wants to be a 'higher' valued client usually will end up less valued by the SP, simply because expecting more equates to less respect given to the SP. Just try to be the best client you can be, they will appreciate that.

 

[Pillowtalk]

Well, like I said, if they do, they are not very good sps. Treat everyone equally; the guys who expect "special attention" based on how much money they spend are probably not desireable due to a sense of entitlement lol. You are still trying to equate $$ with value. That may work in a VFM pov from guy to sp relationship, but it seems like everyone posting here is telling you it does not go the other way around. At least if she is an sp with a good sense of business, she is not going to let it be known she can be providing little extras if the price is right.

 

[mistressfreyja]

OK, so emotions aside, I'm still confused as to what your question really is, if you've already experienced the comaradery? (for lack of a better word) that comes with a more intimate ongoing relation as opposed to a one-time experience. The latter is good for adrenaline rushes, but then so is the preceding experience.

I have sweet spots for the men that take the time to let me get to know them and vice versa, and they know it, and I show it, and they deserve it!

It's not 'special' treatment, though. We just have the opportunity to get to know each other better. I value the opportunity to get to know men of all walks of life as invaluable. You men have an awful lot of interesting things to say, and so do I if you take the time to listen and perhaps laugh.

Or do none of the sp's think like that? (I know that's not true, because I've experienced it with some ladies)

A

 

[huggzy]

Then try listening to what they are saying, repeat client = valued client. Sp's value all their clients, someone who wants to be a 'higher' valued client usually will end up less valued by the SP, simply because expecting more equates to less respect given to the SP. Just try to be the best client you can be, they will appreciate that.

Define "repeat". Repeat once? Is that the same as a guy who sees you 24 times in the year?

And, to repeat what I said earlier, assume the client doesn't expect more from you when he sees you (there's that listening thing again). If you do more it would be on your own initiative.

But hey, you know what? Not all SP's will go "over and beyond" for high revenue clients, just like there are other businesses that don't. All the power to you, and you've answered the question in your case.

But there are those that do recognize the value in customer retention programs - and contrary to what you state there are outstanding SP's who do this and who do treat every client in an excellent fashion, whether they are a one-timer or not.

That's ok - its not in your business model and you've stated that.

 

[HB40]

Define "repeat". Repeat once? Is that the same as a guy who sees you 24 times in the year?

And, to repeat what I said earlier, assume the client doesn't expect more from you when he sees you (there's that listening thing again). If you do more it would be on your own initiative.

But hey, you know what? Not all SP's will go "over and beyond" for high revenue clients, just like there are other businesses that don't. All the power to you, and you've answered the question in your case.

But there are those that do recognize the value in customer retention programs - and contrary to what you state there are outstanding SP's who do this and who do treat every client in an excellent fashion, whether they are a one-timer or not.

That's ok - its not in your business model and you've stated that.

Good grief, you are some kind of idiot huggzy.