Wow you guys in edmonton are cheap I guess. Seriously you expect people to give you money back when you have a bad experience? I guess for that matter I haven't been satisfied with any girl I've ever seen so they should all give me the money back just to be fair and appologize to me for it. Seriously do you pay SPs in pennies or something. We've all had good sessions and bad sessions but to expect a refund is simply something silly. Like I said one thing to say a person had a negative experience it's another to blame one of the most reputable agencies on this board.
Lily - epic fail
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Yeah, and Wolvie is one of the most reputable reviewers on this board. If you like that agency so much you are truly not doing them any favors with your posts, Skdymz!
EdmontonGFE is not a reputable agency, they are new.
No we don't expect to get money back, but we do expect that if a agency wants to establish a good reputation that they do offer amends, that's what separates a good agency from a bad.
There will always be bad apples on a tree, but if the tree is willing to make up for the occasional bad apple, that's how we know its a good tree.
The only thing that will help this new company's reputation is for them to provide top notch girls after this thread. EdmontonGFE seems to be a company that wants to get girls to tour under their name, however looks like they will have a hard time as any girl who reads this forum will think twice about touring with them.
Its hard out here for a pimp.
No we don't expect to get money back, but we do expect that if a agency wants to establish a good reputation that they do offer amends, that's what separates a good agency from a bad.
There will always be bad apples on a tree, but if the tree is willing to make up for the occasional bad apple, that's how we know its a good tree.
The only thing that will help this new company's reputation is for them to provide top notch girls after this thread. EdmontonGFE seems to be a company that wants to get girls to tour under their name, however looks like they will have a hard time as any girl who reads this forum will think twice about touring with them.
Its hard out here for a pimp.
Bobo you are seriously not intelligent are you. The agency isn't edmontonGFE. That's just the name they are using in edmonton. The girls all come from www.sweetvips.com or at least the majority do. Maybe do a search on them and see just how positive the reviews are on the agency.
I've had sessions myself where there was no chemistry with a girl and it made it more mechanical and less fun than anything else. There's just no way around it. Heck one of my worst personal experiences was with a lady that gets glowing reviews by other men and it seriously makes me scratch my head. I'm not saying his review may not have been accurate regarding his time with Lily but coming and bashing that agency and their ladies in particular is simply out of line when they have so many positive reviews.
I've had sessions myself where there was no chemistry with a girl and it made it more mechanical and less fun than anything else. There's just no way around it. Heck one of my worst personal experiences was with a lady that gets glowing reviews by other men and it seriously makes me scratch my head. I'm not saying his review may not have been accurate regarding his time with Lily but coming and bashing that agency and their ladies in particular is simply out of line when they have so many positive reviews.
So you must never have had your order at a restaurant fucked up. I know I have, and I sent it back or have gotten a discount cause of it. The chef provided a bad service and the restaurant did something to make up for it.... that is good service. Just cause this is sex and not food doesn't make it any different.
Wow !
Alrighty then this has gotten a little out of hand hasnt it - I have just stumbled upon this review and,
initially felt a little disappointed, then felt shock, followed by disgusted and I guess at the end of it
Im even feeling a little badgered and disheartened.
To the OP and any client for that matter (of any of the agencies I run www.SweetVIPS.com,
www.Vic2Van.com , www.CalgaryTNA.com , www.EdmontonGFE.com )
I do the phones myself for all four agencies - I am very achable and easily reached - if you EVER
find a session with a lady not to your expectations - I am ALWAYS interested in hearing this - as long as it is
in a possitive, constructive manner. I (nore most people) do not respond well to disrespect, name calling or bashing.
I do have a long history in the business - and yes have many supporters out there - for many reasons
like I am known for having the first agency in Canada with group medical and dental benifits for
the ladies - as well provinding a safe, and very supportive work enviorment for those who wish to
work with me *(notice I never say work for me).
I have never had to resort to a shill - or use tactics beyond my hard work, good word, and honesty
to build my business', and respect from the community I love so much (I must I work 20 hours a day).
I have worked with Lily for about 8 months - She has toured with me in Victoria, Vancouver, Calgary
and yes now Edmonton. During her current visit in Edmonton - she had a client visit her one day -
and rebook the next. She has many good reviews, and in Victoria, Vancouver and Calgary as well
many regular clients who connect with her, and always repeat. To me - this speaks volumes - and is
why I have chosen to work with her and attach my good name and reputation to promoting her,
and will continue to do so.
I do take all concerns, complaints, and bad reviews VERY seriously - I have not worked so hard to
let someone who dosnt respect clients time, money or provide good vaule to ruin that for me or
other amazing ladies I work with. I ALWAYS follow up on all customer complaints - and will be doing
so privatly with the OP. Regardless if the lady or myself feels there is a compenstation in order - there
is always two sides to a story - and I have found many times that a -lot of complaints and missunderstandings
could have been resolved with comunication.
Not every clients needs are the same and the ladies are not mind readers so they don't get it right every time -
they take ques and gestures from clients and try to provide the best vaule for there money - IF for some reason
that dosnt happen - that is when communication is key - for instance letting a lady know what turns you on or what
works for you (ie I am really enjoying getting to know you - but Id like to know you a bit more in a carnal way if you
know what I mean ... or you know what I love when a lady rubs her hands over my body - its a HUGE turn on )
can only incresse the vaule you find in your session with any lady.
To see someone post such a hurtful negitive signature is very disheartening - and it is a shameful
act of immaturity that comes from the mob mentality IMHO. I do appoligise that I did not see this
thread earlier - but I do run 4 compaines and since I am very hands on, I am not always able to
be online 24/7. I am though ALWAYS reachable via phone - and welcome any and all feedback.
Cheers- Ms.Harvi
EdmontonGFE.com
Alrighty then this has gotten a little out of hand hasnt it - I have just stumbled upon this review and,
initially felt a little disappointed, then felt shock, followed by disgusted and I guess at the end of it
Im even feeling a little badgered and disheartened.
To the OP and any client for that matter (of any of the agencies I run www.SweetVIPS.com,
www.Vic2Van.com , www.CalgaryTNA.com , www.EdmontonGFE.com )
I do the phones myself for all four agencies - I am very achable and easily reached - if you EVER
find a session with a lady not to your expectations - I am ALWAYS interested in hearing this - as long as it is
in a possitive, constructive manner. I (nore most people) do not respond well to disrespect, name calling or bashing.
I do have a long history in the business - and yes have many supporters out there - for many reasons
like I am known for having the first agency in Canada with group medical and dental benifits for
the ladies - as well provinding a safe, and very supportive work enviorment for those who wish to
work with me *(notice I never say work for me).
I have never had to resort to a shill - or use tactics beyond my hard work, good word, and honesty
to build my business', and respect from the community I love so much (I must I work 20 hours a day).
I have worked with Lily for about 8 months - She has toured with me in Victoria, Vancouver, Calgary
and yes now Edmonton. During her current visit in Edmonton - she had a client visit her one day -
and rebook the next. She has many good reviews, and in Victoria, Vancouver and Calgary as well
many regular clients who connect with her, and always repeat. To me - this speaks volumes - and is
why I have chosen to work with her and attach my good name and reputation to promoting her,
and will continue to do so.
I do take all concerns, complaints, and bad reviews VERY seriously - I have not worked so hard to
let someone who dosnt respect clients time, money or provide good vaule to ruin that for me or
other amazing ladies I work with. I ALWAYS follow up on all customer complaints - and will be doing
so privatly with the OP. Regardless if the lady or myself feels there is a compenstation in order - there
is always two sides to a story - and I have found many times that a -lot of complaints and missunderstandings
could have been resolved with comunication.
Not every clients needs are the same and the ladies are not mind readers so they don't get it right every time -
they take ques and gestures from clients and try to provide the best vaule for there money - IF for some reason
that dosnt happen - that is when communication is key - for instance letting a lady know what turns you on or what
works for you (ie I am really enjoying getting to know you - but Id like to know you a bit more in a carnal way if you
know what I mean ... or you know what I love when a lady rubs her hands over my body - its a HUGE turn on )
can only incresse the vaule you find in your session with any lady.
To see someone post such a hurtful negitive signature is very disheartening - and it is a shameful
act of immaturity that comes from the mob mentality IMHO. I do appoligise that I did not see this
thread earlier - but I do run 4 compaines and since I am very hands on, I am not always able to
be online 24/7. I am though ALWAYS reachable via phone - and welcome any and all feedback.
Cheers- Ms.Harvi
EdmontonGFE.com
I'd love a link to those...
I also contribute to the baby cow, and I have a serious affliction for the young, hot Asian ladies; as such I have been very interested in Lily. But for the life of me, I just can't find the rave reviews you speak of.
Found plenty of lukewarm to piss poor ones though... She may be deadly hot physically, but methinks that skdymz needs to do a little comparison shopping to find out what a true GFE experience is all about. Physical beauty is trumped by attitude and service every time for most of us. Maybe not you, but for us. Hence the differing opinions.
Based on the overwhelming evidence, Lily appears to be a super hot gal who is not really into being an SP. She probably loves the money though, but just doesn't like fucking strange men. So I am not going to waste my time. That's why these boards exist. To help us spend our money wisely & get vfm.
You should be happy buddy, because I'm sure that Lily will have lots of time in her calendar to accommodate your multiple bookings.
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Again I do thank the OP for his review of Lily - I welcome all reviews good or bad - I wholeheartedly
believe in the importance of the boards - I too have used the review boards to decide if I wish to work
with someone, and I vaule the clients who take the time to share their experiences.
My job is to make everyone happy - girls & clients = its a difficult thing to do, but I do very much enjoy it
and Of course I would love to remedy this situation. Yes we are new on the block - and I know that nothing
I have done elsewhere matters in a town where the compition is high. I know that I do work with some amazing ladies -
and attract alot of great girls baised on my personal ethics, and how I treat everyone.
I fully understand that looks are usually not as important as service = I tell this to all girls I interview
who are starting new in the business. The most sucessful ladies are those who can sincerely connect
with all differnt types of people - and enjoy themselves. I agree this is not a job for everyone - and
some ladies are just in it for the money. I am not going to give away too much of Lily's personal life -
but I know for a fact it is not just simply about the money for her - this is a way for a "good girl" to
be "naughty". I know she connects with, and enjoys the majority of her clients, and I know that many
of her clients return and become regulars. Everyone is entitled to thier opinions, but a few of the
comments (not the OPs review) I found to be very hurtful and anger based. I find negitive comments
like that unfortunate, as the OPs review was neither of those things.
I do prefer to deal with clients privatly for customer service issues - and I have done so with Wolvie.
Whether he decides to never use Edmonton GFE again, I do believe he will take the time to share more
information with me. For the purpose of identifying not only for Lily, but other ladies - how to make a
client feel, like they are getting great vaule for their money.
Other issues at hand :
I have NO idea who the heck Skdymz is - as most clients never reviel their perb/caf handels, and only
book as bob, john fred - I am not sure if I will ever know. I did politely ask Skdymz to please in the
future ask the person he is trying to defend for their approval - as he can see, it could backfire,
and hurt the person its ment to help. I am sure if need be - I could ask many reputable perberts to
come to my defense - but I've never felt the need to do that - and I did not ask for or approve skymz's postings.
I do appoligize again that I didnt see this review right away - I typically cut and paste an ad (same ad on caf, perb, c.e.r.f.
when a new girl is set to arrive, then quickly "bump" their ads on subsiquent days) I do peek in and look
over for reviews every few days, in hindsight maybe i need to look over all the sections of perb/c.e.r.f./caf everyday.
I wasnt trying to be disrespectful by not replying - I simply didnt see it till very late last night, and as soon as I did I
put everything else on the back burner and spent the time needed reading, replying and sending private PMs.
Due to the fact that I am doing the phones, email, ads and websites for 4 companies - i do find it hard to be on the
review sites more then once a day (and some days I dont even make it on at all). I only included this to say this is my reality,
I work hard, but I am not perfect and sometimes there dosnt seem to be enought time in the day - you will notice though that
I have spent the last 12 hours dealing with this issue - wich has prevented me from posting any ads for any of the 4 companies
(and I wont get a chance to untill about 1am tonight now). So I do believe I have my priorities striaght when it comes to listening
rather then telling - and using the boards to comunicate with my clients.
I have found over the years in dealing with customer complaints - that many times where there
were missunderstandings, it was due to lack of comunication (on either side) rather then ill intentions.
In no way was I trying to repremand the OP by asking about comunication - What I was trying to find
out was in his honest opinion, would communication (on her part or his) made this session better?
In my heart I do not belive that Lily has ever intentionaly ment to waist a clients time or money. I am not sure if the chemistry
was off from the start as the OP said - and that made it hard to continue from there (for both of them) or if she was having a
difficult time reading how he wanted to spend his time i.e. maybe she felt that he was not into her, being that the LG was not
responding, and didnt realize it was due to her actions or lack of actions. Possibly she felt that the OP was more comfortable
cuddling and chatting - and this is where I wondered (and have asked wolvie privatly) if Lily had asked any questions about what
she could do to help get things "started up".
I do remind all the girls I work with regularly - how many hours the typical client has to work to spend just one hour with them.
I personally do vaule this - (since I work for about $5 a hour) - and I know how much hard work I put into building trust and a
positive reputation in this industry. Its not woth it for me to work with someone who dosnt respect a clients time or investment.
As for everyone else, the lovers the haters and the lurkers - I think I have spent the time required to honestly answer the concerns
of the OP *(publicly and privatly) - I really hate to get wraped up in board drama and mob lynchings and the "mean crowds" personal
attacks - I am human - and I belive I am doing the very best I can and working with the very best people I can, and I am always
open to positive constructive critisim and self improvment - all the other suff just bounces off me and sticks to you
As mentioned before to the OP - thank you again for your review it is appreciated.
Cheers- Harvi
believe in the importance of the boards - I too have used the review boards to decide if I wish to work
with someone, and I vaule the clients who take the time to share their experiences.
My job is to make everyone happy - girls & clients = its a difficult thing to do, but I do very much enjoy it
and Of course I would love to remedy this situation. Yes we are new on the block - and I know that nothing
I have done elsewhere matters in a town where the compition is high. I know that I do work with some amazing ladies -
and attract alot of great girls baised on my personal ethics, and how I treat everyone.
I fully understand that looks are usually not as important as service = I tell this to all girls I interview
who are starting new in the business. The most sucessful ladies are those who can sincerely connect
with all differnt types of people - and enjoy themselves. I agree this is not a job for everyone - and
some ladies are just in it for the money. I am not going to give away too much of Lily's personal life -
but I know for a fact it is not just simply about the money for her - this is a way for a "good girl" to
be "naughty". I know she connects with, and enjoys the majority of her clients, and I know that many
of her clients return and become regulars. Everyone is entitled to thier opinions, but a few of the
comments (not the OPs review) I found to be very hurtful and anger based. I find negitive comments
like that unfortunate, as the OPs review was neither of those things.
I do prefer to deal with clients privatly for customer service issues - and I have done so with Wolvie.
Whether he decides to never use Edmonton GFE again, I do believe he will take the time to share more
information with me. For the purpose of identifying not only for Lily, but other ladies - how to make a
client feel, like they are getting great vaule for their money.
Other issues at hand :
I have NO idea who the heck Skdymz is - as most clients never reviel their perb/caf handels, and only
book as bob, john fred - I am not sure if I will ever know. I did politely ask Skdymz to please in the
future ask the person he is trying to defend for their approval - as he can see, it could backfire,
and hurt the person its ment to help. I am sure if need be - I could ask many reputable perberts to
come to my defense - but I've never felt the need to do that - and I did not ask for or approve skymz's postings.
I do appoligize again that I didnt see this review right away - I typically cut and paste an ad (same ad on caf, perb, c.e.r.f.
when a new girl is set to arrive, then quickly "bump" their ads on subsiquent days) I do peek in and look
over for reviews every few days, in hindsight maybe i need to look over all the sections of perb/c.e.r.f./caf everyday.
I wasnt trying to be disrespectful by not replying - I simply didnt see it till very late last night, and as soon as I did I
put everything else on the back burner and spent the time needed reading, replying and sending private PMs.
Due to the fact that I am doing the phones, email, ads and websites for 4 companies - i do find it hard to be on the
review sites more then once a day (and some days I dont even make it on at all). I only included this to say this is my reality,
I work hard, but I am not perfect and sometimes there dosnt seem to be enought time in the day - you will notice though that
I have spent the last 12 hours dealing with this issue - wich has prevented me from posting any ads for any of the 4 companies
(and I wont get a chance to untill about 1am tonight now). So I do believe I have my priorities striaght when it comes to listening
rather then telling - and using the boards to comunicate with my clients.
I have found over the years in dealing with customer complaints - that many times where there
were missunderstandings, it was due to lack of comunication (on either side) rather then ill intentions.
In no way was I trying to repremand the OP by asking about comunication - What I was trying to find
out was in his honest opinion, would communication (on her part or his) made this session better?
In my heart I do not belive that Lily has ever intentionaly ment to waist a clients time or money. I am not sure if the chemistry
was off from the start as the OP said - and that made it hard to continue from there (for both of them) or if she was having a
difficult time reading how he wanted to spend his time i.e. maybe she felt that he was not into her, being that the LG was not
responding, and didnt realize it was due to her actions or lack of actions. Possibly she felt that the OP was more comfortable
cuddling and chatting - and this is where I wondered (and have asked wolvie privatly) if Lily had asked any questions about what
she could do to help get things "started up".
I do remind all the girls I work with regularly - how many hours the typical client has to work to spend just one hour with them.
I personally do vaule this - (since I work for about $5 a hour) - and I know how much hard work I put into building trust and a
positive reputation in this industry. Its not woth it for me to work with someone who dosnt respect a clients time or investment.
As for everyone else, the lovers the haters and the lurkers - I think I have spent the time required to honestly answer the concerns
of the OP *(publicly and privatly) - I really hate to get wraped up in board drama and mob lynchings and the "mean crowds" personal
attacks - I am human - and I belive I am doing the very best I can and working with the very best people I can, and I am always
open to positive constructive critisim and self improvment - all the other suff just bounces off me and sticks to you
As mentioned before to the OP - thank you again for your review it is appreciated.
Cheers- Harvi
my 2 cents' on the thread -
last nite I went to see Ryder;
mentioned the CAF discount to the receptionist and she confirmed it to be $$.8;
went to location, went into shower and Ryder was on the bed waiting.
Much of the interaction had to be initiated by me, and that her attitude was too distant.
the FS was ok - no tongue - and very little LFK.
Round 1's intermission - no offer of massage. laid and waited...
Round 2 - lack lustre and couldn't fire.
O yeah - damage was $$$, in spite of the receptionist's confirmation.
btw, don't want to start another useless chain on what GFE means...
last nite I went to see Ryder;
mentioned the CAF discount to the receptionist and she confirmed it to be $$.8;
went to location, went into shower and Ryder was on the bed waiting.
Much of the interaction had to be initiated by me, and that her attitude was too distant.
the FS was ok - no tongue - and very little LFK.
Round 1's intermission - no offer of massage. laid and waited...
Round 2 - lack lustre and couldn't fire.
O yeah - damage was $$$, in spite of the receptionist's confirmation.
btw, don't want to start another useless chain on what GFE means...
In this case Got (your) Funds Ediot
Sorry best I could do.
(Not calling snoopy an Ediot, just giving their definition)
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Ryder is a new girl I just started working with - here is her review from this week in Victoria :
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?132240-sweet-vips-ryder-and-jules&highlight=ryder
If there was an issue with the CAF special - why not have the girl call me - or you call me ? I dont understand
I know that your appointment was late / early AM last night - could be the end of the day - but it is something
I will talk to her about. Again thank you for your review and feedback - as mentioned I do appreciate it and
will be following up with you privatly.
CHeers- Harvi
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?132240-sweet-vips-ryder-and-jules&highlight=ryder
If there was an issue with the CAF special - why not have the girl call me - or you call me ? I dont understand
I know that your appointment was late / early AM last night - could be the end of the day - but it is something
I will talk to her about. Again thank you for your review and feedback - as mentioned I do appreciate it and
will be following up with you privatly.
CHeers- Harvi
The onus is on you to ensure that your staff understands the fee structure instead of inconveniencing the customer.
If that is the case, stop working the girls so hard or price them accordingly.
