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New to the GFE/SP experience - Aid required

Entity

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Hello fellow perb frequenters!

I've been visiting this site for quite some time now, and I feel that I've required enough understanding thus far to warrant that this is a practice that I would like to take part in. You only live once right?

However, I absolutely have no clue about how the routine works. At least, not a concrete idea of how the process occurs.

Which brings me to my request: Just a simple briefing of the following!

What is an incall? What is an outcall?

When contacting an SP, and setting a meeting, should gifts be on hand always? Details!

For a total novice of the culture, should one visit an independent escort for starters, or a micro?


Thank you so much in advanced! This is a big decision to make, and I'd like to understand everything I can before making a move.
 

Entity

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Thanks for the information and advice Nina, and Uncle C!

I'd love to venture into this culture, but I've always wondered.. Would is be strange for an SP to provide for someone a little younger than those whom they usually expect perhaps? Furthermore, how 'young' is young for the SP? I can imagine how it could be an awkward factor in meeting.

(Take note, I'm a young adult)
 

JFF009

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(Take note, I'm a young adult)
I will preface this by saying this is simply my opinion...

I would take some time to think about the decision to get started in this hobby.
You say you're a young adult...perhaps reach out to other younger pooners to see what their experience in and out of pooning has been like. I don't know if it would affect how you see "real-world" relationships down the road.

I started this when I was in my mid 40's...I have lived the "normal" life for those first 40+ years. I'm not sure how that would have worked if I had discovered this hobby at 20. Things may have been too easy. Every time I had a disagreement at home it could have ended with an SP visit instead of working through life's challenges with a partner.

Now community, please don't yell at me. I'm not saying that the best way to live life is to find love. I'm only saying that I don't know. I'm only saying that you should be certain that the stereotypical "normal" life isn't something you want before you take the plunge into pooning. I think about myself and if I had discovered this wealth of beautiful, sexy women wanting to have sex with me when I was 20 how different my life would have been. This is an addictive hobby. I could see my life including pooning for many, many years. I'm not saying that is a bad thing...I'm just saying make sure it is something you want or at least are open to at this stage in your life.
 
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nmjoff

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Much to learn...
Use this board to research prospective SP's and if anything ever sounds sketchy just move on.
Google the phone number/ search it on Craigslist (you will often see sveral pictures or phone numbers using the same picture)

If you want a positve experience go with one ofthe ladies on this board that has positive reviews...

You don't need to bring gifts, BUT be on time, be spic and span clean and be respectful to the lady, have the payment ready. (Dont make her ask)
Any questions just send me a private message...
 

Pillowtalk

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Dude stay away from micros, alot of them are nasty nasty nasty.
I wouldn't go with anyone who doesn't advertise on perb, at least not for your first time. Maybe try an agency or established Massage Parlor for your first few times.
I would say go indy, not agency or mp, but that really depends where the OP is. MPs in AB seem to allow some rapport to build with the individual sps, but not in other areas where he would not get to connect with them directly. For a first experience, he should only go with someone who he can talk to directly. "Meet" them first, so to speak.

And how young is "young adult", and why would the OP assume that would be younger than the sp might normally see? There is probably a legal age to purchase sexual services, if there is one for providing them. I doubt any sp would knowingly see anyone under 18, for that reason.

I don't think having an sp experience as a first one is a bad thing; sometimes it is a boost to confidence. Whether young or old, replacing a SO or gf with sp appts in the extreme is not really a good thing to do. If anyone sees sps (or one sp) more than a handful of times a month, they should really think about why they are doing that. (besides just the expense, it makes me wonder if they are trying to develop a relationship with someone who is not really available, so not going to be successful)
 

Papa Chongo

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LOL, I was sitting outside the second time, for like 20 minutes, I was so eager to go I showed up early.

My advice is go once or twice and see how you feel. My first time was an absolute nightmare, she wasn't like her pic, then tried to upsell once in my room, stay away from anything even remotely weird or too good to be true.

The second was awesome, an SP from the Indy board here, I have gone back too and will return to her again. I don't think you can go wrong by checking here first!
 

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Entity, I too am a younger guy (late 20s) and will relate my experience. I got into this "hobby" 3 years ago. I think the toughest part was the unknown of the experience. Reviews and board posts only tell so much, although are very useful. Do lots of research for your first time. If you are looking for a more intimate experience, try to find someone you may think you will have chemistry with and it will make your experience much more enjoyable. Just remember that you can't plan on that chemistry and that is neither yours nor the ladies fault. The only real way to find out is to just do it. I did and have had great experiences with several of the ladies on this board. I look at is as like a day vacation or a trip to a spa or something like that; a place to relax for a bit and get the world. I think that has been a great approach to maximize the enjoyment of the experience. Let the women take care of you, be nice, respectful and caring and you should have a very enjoyable experience. Good Luck!!! :)
 

JFF009

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Entity, please take serious note of what JFF009 is saying.
I am often concerned that we can have a detrimental effect on the future sexual fulfillment of gents who start this venture early.. Maturity and attitude need to be in serious check when embarking on this venture.
Indeed. Great post, JFF009!
Thank you both. I usually try and take most everything around this hobby lightly but when it comes to younger people getting involved I just get a little concerned. Don't get me wrong I think the people I've met over the past 30 months have been great but, as you said Nina, I'm not sure it would be easy to have had the life I did for the previous 20 years if I had discovered pooning in my early 20's and that would have been a shame.
 
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Hello fellow perb frequenters!

I've been visiting this site for quite some time now, and I feel that I've required enough understanding thus far to warrant that this is a practice that I would like to take part in. You only live once right?
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Entity

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Once again, thank you guys so much for the replies. Greatly appreciated.

I definitely plan on pursuing this hobby at some stage in my life. However, before the jump, I'll be sure to keep all information, suggestions, and advice close to heart.

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Actually, I do have one more question. This one regards establishments dubbed "micros". How is the environment like? I can't help but picture a clinic-type scenario where there is a line up, as well as some magazines placed on counters to pass the time before being presented selections. Are the bro-sans, papa-sans, or mama-sans all of asian descent most of the time if not all? (I'm afraid of bumping into family friends/relatives oy vey.. )

Thanks again in advance!
 

banana_cheesecake

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I have to commend you for doing research! You're a much smarter man than I am.

When I started this "hobby" about a year ago, I just closed my eyes and spun my finger on the craigslists ads, landed the finger at random, opened my eyes, opened the link and called to book an appointment. Never even looked at the picture to realize the fake pics used. It was fun in a way for those who like to test out everything, but not the wisest choice after realizing how narrow my preferences actually are.

So I just wanted to give you kudos for being wise about this.
 

jackperb

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Thank you both. I usually try and take most everything around this hobby lightly but when it comes to younger people getting involved I just get a little concerned. Don't get me wrong I think the people I've met over the past 30 months have been great but, as you said Nina, I'm not sure it would be easy to have had the life I did for the previous 20 years if I had discovered pooning in my early 20's and that would have been a shame.
As someone is his late 40's, I have to completely agree with you JFF. This activity can be very addicting, especially so if the lady being visited is really good at what she does and at making a connection. I think that the paradox here is that the lady who is a real pro, not only in bed but in the entire experience and especially in connecting with the client, is probably the most potentially a problem for a young man getting involved. I've been around the block a few times and I still can end up in mild self delusion if the lady and I connect really well. I can only imagine how messed up I would have been at 20 or 25 if I had some of the experiences I've had at 45. As a young man, it's tough enough trying to sort out human emotions and know what is real and what isn't real. Throw in the fantasyland of being with an SP and the difficulty increases by orders of magnitude.

And the risk here is not just for the young man. I suspect that a lot of SP's have minimum age restrictions in part because younger men have a tougher time remembering that this is all a fantasy, whereas she can partially rely on us older guys being cynical enough to not forget that fact.

What I think can be equally damaging to a younger man is when he comes to the realization that the world of the SP is a fantasyland, he may find it difficult to trust his feelings and emotional connections with civilians. There is a certain cynicism (sp?) that develops over time in this activity about the emotions and sense of connection that is felt when an SP is really good at what she does. I suspect that is at least part of the reason why real SP/Client relationships and romances are so difficult. After being involved in this activity for a while, how do you know when fantasyland ends and the real world begins if the developing relationship is between an SP and a Client? Yes, yes, I know, someone will pipe up with the usual quip about "it's love when she stops asking you to pay" but is it really that easy an answer? Even if she falls in love with you, every evening she is with you potentially cuts into her income. It's not like a regular job with regular hours and vacation time off. If I was in a relationship with an SP, I would probably help her financially for the simple reason that the time she was spending with me would directly and adversely impact her ability to generate income. Giving at least a little help would be a way of acknowledging her sacrifice in spending time with me.

But, I'm digressing. The point I was trying to make is that I feel a young man really needs to get more life experience under his belt before embarking on this activity. He needs to learn how to know when a woman really loves him so he can understand the difference between reality and fantasy.
 
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jackperb

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That has not been my experience, although I suppose it's different for every lady.
I defer to your experience Holly. As I said in my post, it's a reason I suspect that some ladies have for a minimum age restriction but I could certainly be incorrect.

P.S. If you had cracked just the faintest of smiles in that sig pic of yours .... not sure my heart could stand it. ;)
 
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Once again, thank you guys so much for the replies. Greatly appreciated.

I definitely plan on pursuing this hobby at some stage in my life. However, before the jump, I'll be sure to keep all information, suggestions, and advice close to heart.

*edit

Actually, I do have one more question. This one regards establishments dubbed "micros". How is the environment like? I can't help but picture a clinic-type scenario where there is a line up, as well as some magazines placed on counters to pass the time before being presented selections. Are the bro-sans, papa-sans, or mama-sans all of asian descent most of the time if not all? (I'm afraid of bumping into family friends/relatives oy vey.. )

Thanks again in advance!
Hi Entity;

Just to answer your question: "Micro" is short for micro brothel, and the way you are picturing one is entirely wrong. A massage parlor may come closer to what you describe (at least in Vancouver), but even there I have never seen a line up of guys waiting their turn. (Although I have seen the waiting room with the magazines!) A micro, on the other hand, is usually 2 or 3 girls working out of a condo or apartment in a residential neighborhood (as opposed to a massage parlor, which many times has the look of a store or office building, and many times has a clinical feel inside.) The girl you made the appointment with will open the front door when you arrive and lead you to her private bedroom, which most times has it's own attached bathroom and shower. Unless it is one of the larger and busier micros, you will normally not see the other girls or their clients, and will feel like you are alone with her. (You might actually be alone, depending on when and where you go.) Many times you will not see any papasan (or mamasan, etc.) In short, what you have been picturing is more like a full size brothel such as the Mustang Ranch in Nevada, but Vancouver micros are more like going to your girlfriend's apartment for a quickie. Oh yeah, in Van, many of the micro girls are asian, but not all. There are also lots of other girls that work in places that are much like micros. They just seem to call them "incalls" instead.

I think there was a lot of good advice given here regarding the attitude you need to have concerning your relationship with the girl. It's ok to let yourself fantasize that she is your girlfriend (I do all the time.) But don't fool yourself into thinking that you can turn that into reality. You can take the girl out of the whorehouse, but you can never take the whorehouse out of the girl. It won't work out. If she quits working, she will resent you for it. If she keeps working, in the end you will resent her for it. Or she will be convinced by some schmuck client (that is trying to convert his fantasy into reality) that you don't really love her, because if you did, you wouldn't send her off to the whorehouse everyday. Go figure.

However, with that said, I remember when I was in my early twenties the last thing I wanted was the commitment of a "relationship", with it's high chances of ending in divorce, loss of most everything I worked so hard for, and a future of child support payments to a woman who uses my kids as pawns in her war with me. (No, I haven't been there, done that. Well, not all of it anyway. Just watched almost all of my friends go through it.) But it seemed the relationship thing was all the girls wanted. I just wanted to get laid on a regular basis.

If you feel the same way, SPs are the way to go. In fact, if your goal with a non-SP girl is just to get in her pants, think of all the time and money it's going to cost you taking her on dates, buying gifts, etc, etc before you finally get to score. And even then, it's never a sure thing. On the other hand, you can get a well reviewed girl at a micro for what? $140/hour? About the cost of one date with a regular girl, right? And it's a sure thing your getting laid right away. You didn't have to spend countless hours finding her, getting to know her, suffering through the endless chick flicks and conversations about what all her girlfriends are doing, telling her lots of lies to make her think your goal for the two of you are the same as hers. All the while your uncomfortable because you aren't getting laid yet and don't know if you ever will, and she's uncomfortable becuase she knows you want to get laid, but she doesn't want to "give it away" to soon. Such games! SPs are a good deal man. And if you like screwing this particular SP, you just call her up again, and she's ready and willing. Unless you are an abusive ass, she's not going to dump you or make other excuses. You're getting laid, plain and simple, and she's glad you're there sticking your thing between her legs!
 

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Respectfully , I'd like to add my 2 cents as another younger guy (under 25).
This activity for me is like partying or going to bars... Something I'm doing while I'm young and single. I do it very rarely and don't let it interfere with my life outside. Not casting any judgment on the married guys on here at all , but once I settle down with the right lady you will never see me here again.

OP if you are confident you can be sensible and safe then keep doing your research and go for it when you feel ready. Indulge a bit and treat yourself!
 
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Respectfully , I'd like to add my 2 cents as another younger guy (under 25).
This activity for me is like partying or going to bars... Something I'm doing while I'm young and single. I do it very rarely and don't let it interfere with my life outside. Not casting any judgment on the married guys on here at all , but once I settle down with the right lady you will never see me here again...
Yeah, a lot of us guys that are now, uh, older than 25 used to feel that way too. At least I did in my early 20s. But wait until you are 45, have been married to that woman you truly thought was the "right lady" for almost half your life, and she lost all interest in having sex with you about 10 years ago after her 2nd kid. You may still love her as your wife, respect her as a person, and enjoy your life with her. But your dick is still going to be getting hard even at that ripe old age of 45, and you are going to miss the fun of a good roll in the hay. We will see if you still feel the same way about this "hobby" then.
 

Entity

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First and foremost, I've got to say thank you once again for the appreciative support and information that everyone managed to contribute to the topic.

Like I've said before, this would be a hobby, or maybe just a one-off that I'd like to pursue some day. However, putting things into perspective, I don't see myself in the position of being a part of this culture for the time being. My priorities are aligning, and I deem myself just a little too young to be involved (under 25). In the meantime, I'll still be around "lurking" the forum with the occasional post here and there and my curiosity will remain prevalent. On the flip side, perhaps one day I can contribute a review or two to answer some questions for myself in the near future.

Once again, thanks all!
 
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