bb fs wtf is happening out there ffs

Pillowtalk

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https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?252303-need-to-make-some-tonight-19&highlight=bbfs

Not sure if everyone`s able to view this thread, or if you have to be on TERB also to view it.

Probably one of the most entertaining (at his expense) threads I`ve read in a LONG long time. As stupid as this guy was, he does make some very valid points, however.

As far as BBFS, BBBJ, and whatever else bare you can think of goes - try to look at this from an objective view (and simply playing devil`s advocate to prove a point). The above poster makes a very common statement amongst SP`s - "it`s not worth the risk, no amount of money is worth my health". And countless amounts of these same SP`s probably - a) smoke b)txt/talk on their cel phones while driving their cars c)drive while stoned d)insert potentially life-threatening activity here (eg. bungee jumping, white water rafting, etc etc.). Pound for pound, mile for mile - any one of these things - is far more risky, especially a and b combined, probably 100 times riskier. These things, while ALL of them ALSO being 100% completely preventable - are `worth` it, yet giving a guy a hummer without a rubber, just because it`s something sexual... isn`t. I don`t think I will ever comprehend the logic.

I wasn`t aware any of these things were known risks of STDs like syphillis, gonnorhea, and chlamydia. Which, while undergoing treatment = downtime where she cannot work which = loss of income = which is fully preventable by not doing the bbbj; which is totally not the topic of this really old thread about bbfs.

Thanks for the info (and where did you get your medical qualifications, btw?)
 
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BBFS is not girlfriends
- Bare Back Full Service = BBFS

BFF/BFF's = Best friends
I think what he was trying to say is that you should only do BBFS with a girlfriend. Not a SP, not some drunk chick from the bar who swears she's on birth control, but only with someone you are in a monogamous, committed relationship with.
 

icemanmp1

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i dont even know any girls on here that do this...... bbfs.......can anyone name a girl that has done this???
 

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Between the legs of a HOT SP!!
i dont even know any girls on here that do this...... bbfs.......can anyone name a girl that has done this???
Although some guys say that they have been offered BBFS, it is largely a myth, especially among any SP that cares about herself. The ladies know that to make $$ they need to stay healthy and clean and as soon as they loose control over that, it is all down hill from there. So likely if a guy is offered BBFS chances are it is from a girl that has some major health issues and is looking to score a quick buck to replace the money that she used to earn.

Have to admit after enjoying this hobby for over 3 years, which is not a long time, I have seen a fair number of women across a large demographic and I have not once been offered BBFS. Not do I know of any guy that has taken an offer of same. I think a lot of people on this forum are pretty well educated and know the risk they take if they indulge.
 

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Last year I had an Asian SP that wanted me to cum in her mouth. I couldn't say no, so when I felt the urge coming...i jumped off her, threw the condom on the floor and instructed her to get on her knees. She opened up wide and I dropped a big load into her mouth! It was great and I wish I had it on video!!! On the other hand, I had one Asian girl who told me to put my second load into her bareback. I thought she was joking...but she wasn't and told her it isn't safe.

When I made the post, I had about 10 guys ask me for her name, which I never gave out.
 
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I wasn't aware any of these things were known risks of STDs like syphillis, gonnorhea, and chlamydia. Which, while undergoing treatment = downtime where she cannot work which = loss of income = which is fully preventable by not doing the bbbj; which is totally not the topic of this really old thread about bbfs.

Thanks for the info (and where did you get your medical qualifications, btw?)
Thanks for not reading a damn word I wrote. I'm only pointing out the irony/hypocrisy and laughable logic - that people are scared shitless of anything bareback because of its inherent "health and safety risk", but do things in their normal day to day life that are 100 times riskier on paper, but don't bat an eyelash over it (ie - smoking, txting while driving, etc) - which could result in instant death (well, not smoking lol). Thanks Einstein, I'm aware talking on your cel phone doesn't cause syphillis. You're one smart cookie!

And the other point - even if anyone did do bbfs (guy or girl), nobody would ever actually publicly admit to doing so. So much like that recent bbbj poll, I think it's completely bogus, and not nearly an accurate depiction of the real statistics.
 

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i dont even know any girls on here that do this...... bbfs.......can anyone name a girl that has done this???
Mizz Martinez was confirmed to have done this sometime last year with a perb member.

Personally I think any guy seeking bbfs or Sp's offering such service should be black listed on some kind of 'do not date list' as it puts the whole community at risk.
 

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Mizz Martinez was confirmed to have done this sometime last year with a perb member.

Personally I think any guy seeking bbfs or Sp's offering such service should be black listed on some kind of 'do not date list' as it puts the whole community at risk.
It would be more accurate to say she had uncovered sex with a guy she was dating, who when she broke it off with him, wanted to continue to see her and agreed to have paid appts with her. Her appt sessions were cfs, not bbfs, and the term bbfs would not even be used in this case since fs is a paid sex term, not a bf/gf term. right, but good for you for trying to create a little misinformation.

Was she dumb to have uncovered sex with a relatively new boyfriend? Of course, and that would be something she would not do again. But I do think that what she does in her personal life (or any sp for that matter) is her business, and guys need to be smart about what they do, or ask sps to do for them.

re: bbfs, there is another board where guys brag about who they have done bbfs with, and how much if anything, and I suppose they are trying to brag about just how much more awesome they are from regular clients because they get this extra service. They do name names, but imo it is simply another way to discredit sps who don't do bbbjs or because it is Toronto, they may not even do bjs or fs at all, but be mp girls who only do hjs in the r&t places which is legal.

Never underestimate the viciciousness of a guy who does not get what they want from a woman, whatever that may be. A perfect example would be kimbots post........
 
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Um, The whole purpose of covered sex in this industry is to protect each other from what one of the partners might have picked up by having BB sex with someone else. As long as you ensure the people having sex with you are covered, it's irrelevant whether they are having BB sex with someone else in this hobby. You're just as safe having covered sex with them as with the new customer that just walked through the door. While there are STIs that can be passed through skin to skin contact of areas not covered by a condom, the risks to you are the same whether your partner is having BB sex or covered sex with someone with that infection.

I do agree that folks shouldn't be asking for BB & there should be consequences, as in the party being asked immediately ending the session. But we know that organizing this industry is like hearding cats & there will always be those who will negotiate past the offense to finish the transaction. So do what you feel is correct for you to be safe & stop worrying about what others are doing. If someone asks you for BBFS, end the session if that's what you want to do, or go for it. Just stop whining about what "the neighbours" are doing.

(Note:, While I refer to kimbot83's post, I'm really aiming this at all you gossipy busybodies nattering away about rumors about what others do.)
While I agree with what you are saying and I'm not trying to create a pissing match- I think you would have to agree the fact that BBBJs (and to a lesser extent unprotected DATY) are becoming far more common in the Vancouver scene. Therefore the risks of bbfs and the associated risk of STI's are more likely to be spread amongst the community as opposed to everything being covered like your post mentions. Anyways, My point was not to get into the technicalities of STI's being passed around, just stating that bbfs should not be happening in this industry.

Never underestimate the viciciousness of a guy who does not get what they want from a woman, whatever that may be. A perfect example would be kimbots post........
Actually the point of my post was not to be vicious because I am unhappy with an SP. First of all I have never seen nor plan to see Mizz Martinez. Another poster had asked if this kind of activity even happened at all or if it was just an urban myth... My point was just that yes it does happen and that such behavior is very irresponsible given the nature of this industry.

I'm sorry if people took my post out of context, I understand everyone makes mistakes and it was not my intention to open old wounds so to speak but simply to remind all the naysayers that this kind of activity does happen on occasion and the consequences are scary to say the least.
 

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uh...Edmonton.
I never offer bbfs to my clients. Ever.
 

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I'm sorry, though I often agree with many of your posts, I must implore you to reconsider this statement.

The feeling of any kind of health safety goes totally out the window if I discover a client has been engaging in bbfs. I offer gfe as well as pse. Do I want to be kissing and allowing daty with someone who plays unsafely? Do I want to engage in Greek (the riskiest sex act for contracting aids) with a chance (no matter how small) that the condom could break with someone who has a higher risk of bring infected???


It makes a HUGE difference to me and all of the ladies I know.

Any suggestion that the prospective client is looking for bbfs or has engaged in bbfs means he will not get an appointment.
A client who asks in person will be asked to leave immediately.

Trying to minimize risk while still offering more intimate encounters is our job as gfe providers. If the requests for bbfs escalate, I can guarantee you, many gfe providers will switch to non-gfe, completely covered service.
Let's assume that you have some married clients who I assume would engage in bb sex with their wives, will you refuse them an appointment because he has engaged in bbfs ?
 

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As a sidenote to the gentlemen who have difficulty with condoms, I've found the female condom to work extremely well as for most, it is not costructing and feels more natural.
No, they aren't any more natural than a regular condom. They just cost way more. ;)
 
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