Zeitgeist fans...
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I never suggested a systematic attack, more a willful allowance of a serious security breach in order to capitulate a politically sluggish populace to support your declarations and rulings.
While suggesting that they coordinated the attacks on their soil might be a bit far fetched and unfair (although I wouldn't put it past them, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt) it has been proven in past that the american government (and Canadian too) has allowed the deaths of their own people to occur in order to boost public support for their decisions. The most infamous of course was Pearl Harbour, the documents regarding which were declassified a few years ago.
Allowing something to happen is a grey area, unlike actually coordinating something.
As for the emergency response teams, that may be true, but the fact remains they were practicing response drills to the VERY ACTS that were occuring. Had they been practicing a different set of response drills, one could suppose that both in the American and London incidents, EMS teams would've responded differently.
This is what I find disconcerting. The chances of those situations/simulations being run on the same day and time as the actual attacks... out of all the simulations they could've been running those days... is quite astronomical. I'm afraid that I'm not much of one to believe in coincidences... at least, when I'm being asked to believe that coincidences of the exact same nature could happen twice.
I imagine there's a better chance of lightning striking twice than that.
Even if you don't believe the line of reasoning used by the people in those videos, you can occasionally find something interesting in what they say. Somewhere in those rants there may be a grain of truth... and it's that grain of truth that you have the most to be worried about.
Jim, thank you. That was funny. True and funny.
By any chance do you have any trackstar videos.
Actually, I think perb should have an award for good ol trackstar, after all the man is an expert in every area of knowledge known to mankind. He is just incredible. I do wonder why he spends time on an escort review board. I am sure that with his superior intelligence, he would have discovered a cure for cancer by now. I guess he never wears a hat. Couldn't find one big enough for his head.
Your sole purpose for being here has been to insult people. You are truly a waste of sperm
You want a friend and ally so bad that you posted this twice?
Stand on your own two feet troll boy That grain of truth you talk about is the exsact thing that keeps people in religions. Every religion, mainly christian, has some good evidence to prove that the religion is true but they NEVER have enough evidence to prove it without a doubt. It is called faith.
So you have faith that Pearl harbour was alloud to happen ?
You have faith that 9/11 was an inside job ?
I dont have FAITH, I KNOW. As in there is proof. But declassified documents aren't good enough, CIA agents aren't good enough, foreign government officials isn't good enough. So what proof do you need that the Neocons staged 9/11? Aswell as other events? I've posted it and you just insult me. ITS RELEVANT INFORMATION. Ray McGovern you said is probably angry about his pension so he's on the 9/11 bandwagon. Wheres your proof of that? Thats an ASUMPTION, the mother of all fuck ups. Everytime I post something you cant answer you change the question. I answer you post by post. One of the links I sent had a polygraph result attached to the document. Its not something someone faked. I mean holy fuck what else? You know they lie to you, they are compulsive liars. I post video of terstimony before congress of Vincent Bugliosi and his speech for impeachment of Bush, and he goes over the LIES that led to the Iraq war, mainly Bush said the EXACT opposite of what his own CIA was telling him. "Mr.Bush we cannot find any evidence of Iraq being any threat". Then Iraq gets invaded. I post links from wikipedia and you call it anarchist. Meanwhile you post a caller heckling a radio show host, whats that prove? I'm the nut? I'm the cook for believing something that has proof behind it? I dont mean a shitty video of the Lochness Monster. I mean what happened to the plane that hit the pentagon. 88 videos of the attack and we get to see 3? What are they hiding? Atleast show a clear shot of the plane. And the air lift of evil, all the Bin Laden's are flown out of the country while every tax paying american was stuck for hours in an airport. The hijackers leaving a video on how to fly a plane in one of there hotel rooms. Is it that easy to forget how to fly a plane? This rudder does this, this rudder does that? The fire was so hot it melted steel,vaporized the airplanes but they found 1 hijackers ID in 2 places intact, fireproof ID's? Whos the conspiracy theorist? Theres a conspiracy but yours is only a theory.
This thread has taken on some heat. I just have to side on of caution to what the media and government feeds us on a daily basis you have to take it with a grain of salt. I do that with Alex Jones even though I believe most of the stuff he puts out there is credible. He brings on credible guests, Lou Dobbs of CNN who is the rare in the media who doesn't go with what everybody says and also Jesse Ventura a former "independent govenor" from a state like Minnesota where they've had a history backing independents. I
no, I'm not insulting people. I was insulting you, lb, and silky before that.Your sole purpose for being here has been to insult people. You are truly a waste of sperm
You give yourself too much credit. I would never classify you as person.
Bullshit. If what you are saying is so clearly true then it would be common knowlege. No different then if a religion could prove itself to be clearly true then it would rule out all other religions.
That is clearly unsupportable and shows extreme ignorance of human psychology. People believe precisely what fits with the image of the world they grew up in. all things coming into our 5 senses is distorted, deleted and generalized until it conforms to our view of the world and not until. For any individual to actually examine the information presented with an unbiased mind is virtually impossible. The bigger the lie, the easier it is for the public to swallow. Each new generation of politicians learns from those who came before. Hitlers "big lie" is now just another tactic in the arsenal.
Ok well if religions are so true based on the "evidence" they present than christianity tackle this one. Dinosaurs..... but the bible says the earth is about 6000 years old. Meanwhile science says otherwise. Got it? Noah apparently put 2 of EVERY animal on the face of the earth onto his arc. Thats impossible but if God said it happened well then I guess it happened. Maybe the god of these religions isn't the creator of the universe.... 9/11 happens, jet fuel CANNOT burn hot enough especially in an uncontrolled situation to weaken steel to the degree the 9/11 comission says. Now here is a CNN poll.
http://serendipito.us/images/CNN-poll-911W.gif
http://serendipito.us/images/CNN-poll-911W.gif
LB - it's a horrible thought that persons in power would orchestrate a 9/11 in order to gain public support for an otherwise unsupportable agenda but all the evidence certainly points in that direction. What I understand but have difficulty dealing with is that so many people refuse to look at the facts and reach their own conclusions. For W.J. Clinton to be impeached over a cum stain on a dress while George W walks away scott free from treason blows my mind, but the fact remains it's just easier for the public to identify with the cum stain than it is to deal with the fact that the former president is a mass murderer, a liar and a traitor. It's just too far removed from everything they hold dear.
Never give up shining the light of truth - cockroaches don't live in the light.
Never give up shining the light of truth - cockroaches don't live in the light.
maroonedsailor you sound kind of open minded, you sure your not with al-qaeda!?!?!? Thinking outside the box is so al-qaeda!? Why do you hate america!? Ok i'll stop Just trying to sound like the koolaid drinkers.
Thinking outside the box is so al-qaeda!? Why do you hate america!? Ok i'll stop Just trying to sound like the koolaid drinkers.I have no plan to enter the argument.
There is a huge irony here worth pointing out:
It's comically twisted that the Conspiracy People borrow-adopt the term and
use it to call the 'non-believers' as having 'drunk the Kool-Aide'.
While to us 'Normals" they look like the ones waiting to commit group suicide to catch a ride on a passing Comet. (Same idea, different event from the one in Guyana).
From my and most's point of view,
it is the conspiracy types who have 'Drunk the Koolaide',
and it is people who call or appoint themselves with names like 'Light Bearer',
are not much different than that same Jim Jones (Kool Aide reference again), who also saw himself like some enlightened prophet, as gifted, as the revealer, and a 'Lightbearer'.
- When it seems to everyone else of actual clarity, the true tainted-Kool-Aide-Drinkers are often just individuals with a huge NEED to be 'the one 'in-the-know', which quite often is the motive which gives them purpose by "knowing" something other's "can't" or "refuse" to - (cough) - "see".
Thereby, all of us are the ones 'in denial', and they are 'special'.
BUT, the main irony here is: (EMPHASIS):
There is a large group of scholarly and brilliant, educated, and truly OPEN-MINDED people who have looked at the evidence without pre-bias, from BOTH sides, and STILL conclude that the evidence DOES NOT in the FINAL ANALYSIS, support your assertions.
Repeat for emphasis :
and STILL conclude that the evidence DOES NOT in the FINAL ANALYSIS, support your assertions.
But, even with such a full-on, critical, independent-thinking AND
open mind, because we are not Converts to your religion,
somehow, instead, it is we who have 'drunk the Kool Aide'.
And if you don't convert, you are obviously and wilfully 'close minded'. Because the 'evidence' is sooo 'compelling', you'd 'be a fool' NOT to become a believer...
Bullshit.
And that's the true irony.
So we are left to say,
The 'light' you bear is an artifical candle in the wind.
(Or a gas lamp running out of gaAasssssssssss-hiss Phew! LoL).
And leave it at that.
Cheers.
I'll remain, 'happily ignorant'.
Because, as Tom Cruise said in 'A Few Good Men',
"You can't handle The Truth!"
- or rather,
"I I I I can't handle the 'Truth'"
LOL insert your own smiley face....HERE.
(PS, Obama cancelled plans to add Michael Moore's face to Mt. Rushmore.
It's truuue, I saw it on Yew Toobe).
ROFL insert your own, second smiley face....HERE.
There is a huge irony here worth pointing out:
It's comically twisted that the Conspiracy People borrow-adopt the term and
use it to call the 'non-believers' as having 'drunk the Kool-Aide'.
While to us 'Normals" they look like the ones waiting to commit group suicide to catch a ride on a passing Comet. (Same idea, different event from the one in Guyana).
From my and most's point of view,
it is the conspiracy types who have 'Drunk the Koolaide',
and it is people who call or appoint themselves with names like 'Light Bearer',
are not much different than that same Jim Jones (Kool Aide reference again), who also saw himself like some enlightened prophet, as gifted, as the revealer, and a 'Lightbearer'.
- When it seems to everyone else of actual clarity, the true tainted-Kool-Aide-Drinkers are often just individuals with a huge NEED to be 'the one 'in-the-know', which quite often is the motive which gives them purpose by "knowing" something other's "can't" or "refuse" to - (cough) - "see".
Thereby, all of us are the ones 'in denial', and they are 'special'.
BUT, the main irony here is: (EMPHASIS):
There is a large group of scholarly and brilliant, educated, and truly OPEN-MINDED people who have looked at the evidence without pre-bias, from BOTH sides, and STILL conclude that the evidence DOES NOT in the FINAL ANALYSIS, support your assertions.
Repeat for emphasis :
and STILL conclude that the evidence DOES NOT in the FINAL ANALYSIS, support your assertions.
But, even with such a full-on, critical, independent-thinking AND
open mind, because we are not Converts to your religion,
somehow, instead, it is we who have 'drunk the Kool Aide'.
And if you don't convert, you are obviously and wilfully 'close minded'. Because the 'evidence' is sooo 'compelling', you'd 'be a fool' NOT to become a believer...
Bullshit.
And that's the true irony.
So we are left to say,
The 'light' you bear is an artifical candle in the wind.
(Or a gas lamp running out of gaAasssssssssss-hiss Phew! LoL).
And leave it at that.
Cheers.
I'll remain, 'happily ignorant'.
Because, as Tom Cruise said in 'A Few Good Men',
"You can't handle The Truth!"
- or rather,
"I I I I can't handle the 'Truth'"
LOL insert your own smiley face....HERE.
(PS, Obama cancelled plans to add Michael Moore's face to Mt. Rushmore.
It's truuue, I saw it on Yew Toobe).
ROFL insert your own, second smiley face....HERE.
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I think the basis of these arguments come down to one thing. Do we believe everything the media and government tells us as the truth? For the people I don't agree with on opinions I try not to come off as all know, be all. I respect all of your guys opinions I think its good to have a open forum though, I do believe when throwing cheap shots and barbs are unecessary. From both sides. All I will say is the world is getting smaller by each day. Lines of communication are more open and viable. It will be interesting how some of these events shape out in the next few months to years. From the u.s dollar biting the dust to people really feeling the pinch with unemployment. I'm a little fortunate living in Alberta where it has slowed down there are still some options.
Faith in the Zeitgeist, You are clinging to faith, no different then a religious person.
Maybe you should listen to Alex Jones interviewing Peter Joseph the Zeitgeist creator. Alex Doesnt agree with Peter. I'll say it again for you pea brains. ALEX JONES DOESNT AGREEE WITH ZEITGEIST!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...aO6qAOylKmgDQ&q=alex+jones+peter+joseph&hl=en
Funny how you say you are "normal" because you believe everything the government says, they never lie. "Normal" people ask questions, sheep just go along to get along. They said theres no NWO but now we hear it almost everyday to fix the global economic crash. They tell us Bilderberg doesnt exist yet lots of people admit they have attended meetings, like Bill Clinton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jmzWi_nhQg
You guys really need to do your homework. I post legitimate proof, you post insults. I post more links you hurl more insults, thats what a child does when they get angry. They cant debate, they know they are wrong so they get mad. Mad that they bought into a lie so deep they cant get out. You've committed to the lie. "theres evil brown guys in caves and they hate america". They attacked us on the same day on the same targets at the exact times in London, Spain and USA. Drills and real life collide at the same time. Oh but I'm a nut for discussing this. Keep watching TV, drinking beer getting fat and stupid. Your government is in control.
You havent answered any of my actual questions yet, any of you flouride heads. Unless you think an insult defeats the evidence.
