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Savannah Mae

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As I have been perusing this board I am finding all sorts of helpful knowledge about Canada, but I am still left hanging with questions.
I am from Oregon. I have only worked in Oregon off and on for the last year.
Thank you all for taking the time to entertain my questions!

Ladies: Do you do reference checks on customers ever?

How is the CL scene? It is very sketchy in Oregon either by constant flagging/slandering or ROB's or LE.

What should be avoided as far as wording in ads?
Anything that can get you in trouble?
I am very cautious and I do not discuss "business" with folks. All the pertinent information is on my web site.
Any other words of wisdom will not go unappreciated!

xoxo,
Savannah Mae
 

H.Miller

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Watch the puck.

Any other words of wisdom will not go unappreciated!

xoxo,
Savannah Mae
When you are up here, above all else---watch the puck ,and keep your stick on the ice.
 

aznboi9

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How is the CL scene? It is very sketchy in Oregon either by constant flagging/slandering or ROB's or LE.
From personal experience as a pooner, CL seems to be higher risk wrt to the quality of service that you might get. But I haven't heard of problems with LE from pooners or SP's.

What should be avoided as far as wording in ads?
Anything that can get you in trouble?
It seems you might have an ad flagged for removal if you are too explicit in the services that you provide. But if you just put something about rates, contact info and just use the usual terminology (eg, MSOG, FS etc..) it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Just my two bits.
 
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I think the CL scene is pretty good up here. There are the obvious bait and switches...but you can often tell from the pic on CL whether it is real or not.

When in doubt cheeck perb and see what folks have to say.
 

Miss*Bijou

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It seems you might have an ad flagged for removal if you are too explicit in the services that you provide. But if you just put something about rates, contact info and just use the usual terminology (eg, MSOG, FS etc..) it doesn't seem to be a problem.

Just my two bits.

No. The ads are definitely flagged even if not explicit. The exact same ad can get flagged and removed one time and stay up the next time... I don't know what it is, but it's totally random.

The fun part is that since you are only allowed to post 1 ad per section every 48hrs (I think), if you re-post your ad and even if it was wrongly flagged, next time you attempt to log on, you will find your account has been put on hold by CL and you can no longer use it to post. No problem, just get a new email address and create a new CL account, you say? Nah ah. Since you now have to validate all CL accounts with a phone number in order to post in the erotic services section, you will also need a new valid phone number to use because you cannot use the same number twice. You need a number to a phone you have access to, because you'll need to answer the call in order to get the code required to complete the validation and successfully create a new CL account.


Fun, fun. So my excitement over my little CL advertising experiment was very short lived. LOL Though I have to say that from the ads that did stay up and weren't removed, and even if there are definitely some time wasters out there, I was pleasantly surprised with the gents I did end up meeting. Just be careful not to re-post too soon, even if you ad was flagged for no good reason!



How is the CL scene? It is very sketchy in Oregon either by constant flagging/slandering or ROB's or LE.

What should be avoided as far as wording in ads?
Anything that can get you in trouble?
I am very cautious and I do not discuss "business" with folks.

Prostitution itself is legal in Canada, so LE isn't too concerned with CL. What is illegal is (see complete list and details below):

Keeping/being an inmate of a common bawdy house (ie brother, incall)
(Outcalls are legal)
Any apartment or house where an sp entertains is considered a bawdy house. Even if it's her residence, even if she is the only one working at that location. I'm not sure whether or not entertaining guests your own hotel room would fall in the same category but I would guess it would be considered the same. All this being said, LE does not really bother going after girls for this type of thing unless you give them reason to (hotel complaints, guests/neighbors complaints for noise ..) which, if you are careful not to get noticed or be excessively loud, is easy to avoid.

So there aren't any specific words to avoid and no real need to be super vague about services and other information IMO, as long as you keep it somewhat subtle and use your judgment, there isn't a need to worry.

As far as checking references... In Vancouver, I think that some of the girls do, but my guess is that most do not require references from other sp's. I am sure however that the majority have no problem providing references for gentlemen they have seen in the past, if contacted by another sp. If you feel more comfortable checking references before seeing a gentleman, I'm sure most ppl won't have a problem. It's completely reasonable, especially if it makes you feel safer IMO.




http://www.livingincommunity.ca/toolkit/Cpage7.html

Know the Law
Prostitution Laws from the Criminal Code of Canada


It is not illegal in Canada to be a prostitute (sex worker) however soliciting, procuring, living off the avails and keeping a common bawdy house are illegal. Many of these prohibitions contribute to the high rates of violence that sex workers experience for various reasons. Below are descriptions of sections 210 to 213 of the criminal code.

Keeping a Common Bawdy House: s. 210 (1): It is illegal for an owner, landlord, tenant, agent or property manager to knowingly allow their property or any part of the premises to be used as a place for prostitution (sex for money).

Being an Inmate of Common Bawdy House s. 210 (2): It is illegal to work or live in a space that is used as a space where sex for money takes place.

Notice of Conviction of Keeping a Common Bawdy House s. 210 (3) (4): When a person is convicted of keeping a common bawdy house [s. 210 (1)], the court serves a notice to the landlord, property owner or manager saying that the tenant or occupier has been convicted of this offense. The landlord is then expected to take all reasonable steps to evict the person charged, and if he or she doesn't and the person gets charged again then the landlord or property owner will also be charged.

Transportation of a Person to a Common Bawdy House s. 211: It is illegal to take, offer to take, or direct anyone to a common bawdy house.

Procuring s. 212 (1): It is illegal to influence a person who is not a sex worker to become a sex worker, whether inside or outside Canada.

Exercising Control, Direction or Influence s. 212 (1) (h): It is illegal to control the movements of a sex worker or force a sex worker to work for gain or profit.

Living on the avails s 212 (1) (J): It is illegal for anyone who lives with or who is habitually in the company of a sex worker to live partly or wholly on the income made from a sex worker. The purpose of this law is to target pimps who receive a portion of a sex worker’s earnings.

An escort service is guilty of s. 212 if it profits from the prostitution (most escort agencies say they only charge for the companionship and time) of its employees.

Communication for the purposes of prostitution
213: It is illegal for a sex worker and client to talk openly in public about exchanging money for sex. Public places include vehicles, parking lots, restaurants/bars, hotel lobbies, streets, or any place that the public has access to or that the public can view. A non-public place would be a hotel room, apartment or house (apartments and homes can be at risk through the bawdy house laws). It is also illegal to stop or attempt to stop or impede motor or pedestrian traffic.

The Communication law is the source of 93% of all prostitution convictions in Canada (Statistics Canada 2004). This law came into effect on December 20th 1985 to replace the old solicitation law that only targeted sex workers. The Communication law was put in place to target both sex workers and clients equally.

Indecent act -- s. 173 (1): also called exposure. Most people think this only applies to flashers or other perverts, but if a john and a prostitute are engaging in a sex act in a public place they can both be charged with this offense if they intended to offend passerby, or if the act takes place in the presence of other persons. Other offenses that might apply are sexual interference (s. 151) and even sexual assault (s. 271) if the prostitute is under 14; invitation to sexual touching (s. 152); sexual exploitation (s. 153); anal intercourse (s. 159); and, child pornography provisions (s. 163.1).

Loitering: Many business owners who own establishments where prostitutes congregate are frustrated that the police cannot simply go and arrest someone who is standing on a corner and is obviously a prostitute. Loitering is not illegal. In the past, prostitutes could be arrested under vagrancy laws if they were standing for some time on a street corner. These laws were repealed some time ago. Police can only encourage prostitutes to move from a certain location. They cannot arrest them unless they are doing something illegal.


For the full printable format of the Criminal Code of Canada please click on the following link to reach their website.
laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowFullDoc/cs/C-46///en
 
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No. The ads are definitely flagged even if not explicit. The exact same ad can get flagged and removed one time and stay up the next time... I don't know what it is, but it's totally random.

The fun part is that since you are only allowed to post 1 ad per section every 48hrs (I think), if you re-post your ad and even if it was wrongly flagged, next time you attempt to log on, you will find your account has been put on hold by CL and you can no longer use it to post. No problem, just get a new email address and create a new CL account, you say? Nah ah. Since you now have to validate all CL accounts with a phone number in order to post in the erotic services section, you will also need a new valid phone number to use because you cannot use the same number twice. You need a number to a phone you have access to, because you'll need to answer the call in order to get the code required to complete the validation and successfully create a new CL account.


Fun, fun. So my excitement over my little CL advertising experiment was very short lived. LOL Though I have to say that from the ads that did stay up and weren't removed, and even if there are definitely some time wasters out there, I was pleasantly surprised with the gents I did end up meeting. Just be careful not to re-post too soon, even if you ad was flagged for no good reason!
Everything Miss Bijou says here is 100% correct. I have used CL for a couple of years and have had varied success. Prior to getting the boot (account frozen) for advertising too frequently (twice in 1 hour, which I had never done but was advertising 2 different things.) I wasn't getting much business from it anyway. CL is more for escort services than Domme services though.

I used to get flagged and removed often even when my ad was very vanilla. I could never figure it out. It seemed random.

Don't post too much and keep your ad brief and fairly clean and you should be fine. Also, don't rely on it. Advertise in other places so if you have flagging issues it's not your only way to generate revenue.

Good luck!
 

Savannah Mae

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Thank you all for the information. I am already starting to feel comfortable!
I landed last night and I am headed off to run the race today.
See ya'll soon!
 
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