...is wrong with some pooners these days, and a couple of sp's? People have to start respecting other peoples boundries more!! If an sp says no it does not mean keep trying that you will eventually win her over. She is a lady just like ladies in the real world and they do not like to be threatened, stalked and harrassed. As well to the recent sp (no names) who disclosed private client info you are just as guilty of violating someones trust. What has this world come too. Is it the illusion of an intimate relationship which makes people act this way? I for one know that this hobby is all a fantasy between two people it is not real. This is not a dating board? Whatever happens between the client nad sp personally is up to them and should be of a mutually consenting nature. Just as in real life!!! As pooners we often forget that fact and imeadiately assume because an sp DFK with you or any other intimate acts that she loves you? Now sometimes sp's and clients will form a concetion however like I said it is up to the SP as to wether(spelling) she should persue it. To Ashley the latest and not the last woman to go through this go to the LE and get rid of this @#$hole. He makes it bad for all us gentleman pooners out here!!!!IMO
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it's spelled whether
Maybe it's early in the morning but what the heck is a concetion?
Not making fun, just trying to figure out what you meant.
Spelling and typos sorry?
....Did ya care to coment on the post or just the syntax? It is conection. Again spelling? Not my strongest suit!!!!
....Did ya care to coment on the post or just the syntax? It is conection. Again spelling? Not my strongest suit!!!!
I got an email from a client's wife a few weeks ago. I thought it was addressed to the wrong person until I looked at the name again. Ugh. I can't believe he told her about me! What the hell was he thinking?
Discretion goes both ways.
Discretion goes both ways.
Like I said, I was trying to figure out what you were saying, before I commented on it. I see now, I was tired otherwise I would have spotted the typo. I wasn't sure if you were saying 'concession' (ie: discount or relaxing of restrictions) or what.
Now, to answer your original post:
I think that this is nothing new, it is merely an extension of the way badly behaved people (not just guys) act in relationships into the world of SPs and clients. This happens when one or the other (usually the client but not always) reads more into the relationship than what is there and starts treating the other person like a girlfriend or boyfriend.
Now, as I said, that is not the REAL problem (although it is a whole other kind of problem, don't get me wrong). The REAL problem is the way that some people think that they can or should treat someone they are or have been in a relationship with.
Anyone always has the right to kick someone out of their life, PERIOD. You can't force someone to be with you or to pay attention to you or to answer your questions or to listen to you etc etc...
Personally I think that a big part of the dramatic INCREASE in this sort of behaviour has to do with socialist governments brainwashing people into feeling that they are entitled to all sorts of things that, fundamentally, they are NOT. People are not 'entitled' to have other people do what they want or act the way they want (or pay more taxes because you made poor life choices) etc....
People have to wake up and realize that life is NOT fair sometimes and they do NOT have a 'right' for things to happen in a way that they consider to be 'fair'.
We have to realize that men who have difficulty forming relationships (perhaps due to sexual insecurities, unattractive, etc) go to SP's to fill that need for intimacy. For many of them, that intimate act can lead to misconceived feelings of love. They can often confuse sex with love.
The thing is, if they 'love' her and she tells them to go away and leave her alone, they need to wake up and listen.
I totally agree. ........
............... I think for me the thing is just be yourself, honest( as you can, married, so, etc) and for men be a gentleman around any ladies including and especially sp's. Lets face it if some guy's on these boards could get dates with hotties all the time then alot of us would not be here. There are other reasons for pooning as well. Me I am a consumate gentelman just never got the hang of flirting and playing games. I am too direct for that. I am not ugly or socially inept just a bit reserved and shy!! Any woman I have been with say I am handsome? Go figure? And I will say it agin discretion and boundries!!!
............... I think for me the thing is just be yourself, honest( as you can, married, so, etc) and for men be a gentleman around any ladies including and especially sp's. Lets face it if some guy's on these boards could get dates with hotties all the time then alot of us would not be here. There are other reasons for pooning as well. Me I am a consumate gentelman just never got the hang of flirting and playing games. I am too direct for that. I am not ugly or socially inept just a bit reserved and shy!! Any woman I have been with say I am handsome? Go figure? And I will say it agin discretion and boundries!!!
What a stretch. That's so out of touch with the reasons many guys see SPs for. Often guys see SPs because they can not get what they want with the SO or their GF. Often this has to do with treating a woman in a particular way which would otherwise be considered disrespectful by their SO or their GF. Even some guys see SPs as laboratories for demeaning behaviour because SPs are often seen as less than worthy of respect that would be accorded to others. How many SOs or GFs would voluntarily and happily eat your ass? Many of them find this disgusting. Yet many guys know that certain SPs, particularly from disadvantaged economic backgrounds would be willing to do so even if the girl would be very ashamed to admit it to anyone. It has nothing to do with "entitlement" from the government, and almost everything to do with sheer disrespect.
God you're a fucking moron.
I wish the "ignore" function also disabled seeing your fascist rhetoric in quotes as well.
I agree that is the case for alot of guy's........
.......but not all. I would think it would occur more readily in the lower priced and sw sp's. Ther are many reasons for seeing sp's to me even if woman sp or otherwise does these so called dirty things with you does not mean she is unworthy of respect? I am not naive and it does happen. Just my 2 cents. To me a little respect will get you further milage, extras, and more fun in the bedroom, if it's an sp or otherwise.IMO
I agree that this is the case with many guys who go see SPs, but are those the guys who wind up falling in love (or thinking they are) with the SP they are seeing? I doubt it.
I think the ones that 'fall in love' are either the guys who don't have a SO or the guys who do have an SO who treats them like crap. They go to the SP looking for tenderness and intimacy and when they get it, they 'fall in love' with her.
The overdeveloped sense of entitlement is what causes people to feel that they have all sorts of 'rights' to things that they do NOT have, like the 'right' to be treated fairly in a relationship (hey, it would be nice, but it's certainly not a 'right') or the right to keep contacting someone after they have been told to go away, etc...
It's not my fault that you aren't educated or intelligent enough to recognize the results of welfare states and governments that treat the population like a bunch of spoiled children.
I guess you haven't noticed the huge increases in senses of entitlement and how the left wing politicians are constantly feeding it to gather support. There's a reason they say that each generation expects to be handed more and more on a silver platter. Funny how that effect seems to be focused on the areas that elect and are governed by left wing politicians.
Are you kidding?
With the risk of hijacking this thread into a political debate, I have to comment. The idea that we are being 'brainwashed' by socialist governments is absolutely foolish. Yes, a lot of people think they 'deserve' things that they don't but it isn't brainwashing. I deserve to be treated with respect. That is my right, and my responsibility is to refrain from interacting with those that don't treat me with respect. The socialist government has nothing to do with it, we haven't even had a socailist government in power since 1974. Some of the things you say are intelligent and coherent, but after making a great point you somehow blame socialists? You need to do more research on a topic before commenting on it. Bad behavoir has existed as long as people have, and socialism promotes equality and teaches people to respect others, exactly the opposite of the problems we are talking about.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
With the risk of hijacking this thread into a political debate, I have to comment. The idea that we are being 'brainwashed' by socialist governments is absolutely foolish. Yes, a lot of people think they 'deserve' things that they don't but it isn't brainwashing. I deserve to be treated with respect. That is my right, and my responsibility is to refrain from interacting with those that don't treat me with respect. The socialist government has nothing to do with it, we haven't even had a socailist government in power since 1974. Some of the things you say are intelligent and coherent, but after making a great point you somehow blame socialists? You need to do more research on a topic before commenting on it. Bad behavoir has existed as long as people have, and socialism promotes equality and teaches people to respect others, exactly the opposite of the problems we are talking about.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Uh, so you're saying that the BC NDP government wasn't socialist?
Or are you saying that the federal Liberal government wasn't socialist?
What exactly are you trying to say?
I think you are the one who needs to do a bit more research.
I would suggest starting with the writings of guys like Marx and Trotsky, they did a pretty good job of explaining how a socialist government could keep a population under control through overdeveloping their sense of entitlement. Of course they put it in more 'friendly' wording, but that's what it means.
Also, there is a LOT of published research showing that left wing governments instill an inappropriate sense of entitlement in people which merely leads to more and more expectations and less and less effort.
Were you aware that Canada has the lowest productivity per capita of ANY industrialized country? And yet we also have one of the highest average standards of living and one of the highest per capita debt loads. Am I the only one who thinks that there is a big problem brewing?
And, by the way, socialist governments 'teach' that the 'haves' must look after the 'have nots' and the 'have nots' don't actually have to work to try to become 'haves'.
Seriously?
How did this turn into a debate about the effects of goverment on "sense of entitlement"? I think it is about how f#@%ed up some pooners are in their inability to respect the privacy of others. If you want to attribute this to the leadership of a particular political stripe, you may want to look at the track record of right wing goverments vis a vis privacy in the bedroom. On a broader perspective, right wing wackos everywhere are losing their minds because their hero, George "Too Dumb To Speak" Bush is circling the toilet bowl of history. Good riddance turd.
How did this turn into a debate about the effects of goverment on "sense of entitlement"? I think it is about how f#@%ed up some pooners are in their inability to respect the privacy of others. If you want to attribute this to the leadership of a particular political stripe, you may want to look at the track record of right wing goverments vis a vis privacy in the bedroom. On a broader perspective, right wing wackos everywhere are losing their minds because their hero, George "Too Dumb To Speak" Bush is circling the toilet bowl of history. Good riddance turd.
Your comment comes dangerously close to accusing me of having the idea that a girl who does "dirty things" is not worthy of respect. I stated that there are pooners who have the idea that since an SP is not worthy of respect, she could be coerced into doing things she would consider shameful. I was not talking about the first person. And frankly, being nice and respectful to someone just so you can get better mileage or extras out of them is not being nice or respectful, is it? It should stand on its own without the expectation of something in return.
jj...
jjinvan... honey, pooning and SP's are the oldest habit and profession out there...long before socialism....
men feel entitled REGARDLESS. if they can't get it from their S/O and can't afford an SP, they'll watch porn, visit strip clubs...
or worse...rape... but lets not even get started on such a horrid topic. that just stirs a lot of bad memories or feelings in many of us.
when i read that bit about socialism and pooning i thought i was tripping... wow...what a weird correlation. i guess he forgot to explain why its so big in the USA, one of the most right wing industrialized nations in the world...
but some people like to stop at facts, i suppose. i lived in the US for 18 years... so no one please get into a debate with me over what its like there.... I would know.
jjinvan... honey, pooning and SP's are the oldest habit and profession out there...long before socialism....
men feel entitled REGARDLESS. if they can't get it from their S/O and can't afford an SP, they'll watch porn, visit strip clubs...
or worse...rape... but lets not even get started on such a horrid topic. that just stirs a lot of bad memories or feelings in many of us.
when i read that bit about socialism and pooning i thought i was tripping... wow...what a weird correlation. i guess he forgot to explain why its so big in the USA, one of the most right wing industrialized nations in the world...
but some people like to stop at facts, i suppose. i lived in the US for 18 years... so no one please get into a debate with me over what its like there.... I would know.
