Would you ever teach about this....?

[Coolsin000]

...and all that crap you read...throw it ALL away....its just useless fortuneteller BS. Be honest, be open, be yourself. If you think you are going to fool anybody worth having a friendship with by using any kind of duplicitous "technique", you are mistaken.

Just be yourself..have you ever tried that? Do you even know yourself?

PUA tactics are all about manipulating and deceiving women. Although the psychology behind it is fascinating.. it's really not what you want to do if you crave a real connection.

I know a lot of people that have suggested, "Just be yourself." which that suggestion never really pays off for me or anyone that I know.

Yes, I've try to be myself. So, the short answer is, "It doesn't work." haha

I agree and disagree with you on the PUA tactics. After using PUA myself, it really helps you discover yourself who you are as a person. And experience things that you are afraid to try, like talking to random strangers. At the same time, the psychology and the philosophy behind understanding women and men - it does pay off in the long run. But, I definitely disagree with going to parties every weekend cause that just very exhausting - mentally and physically.

 

[Miss Hunter]

I know a lot of people that have suggested, "Just be yourself." which that suggestion never really pays off for me or anyone that I know.

Yes, I've try to be myself. So, the short answer is, "It doesn't work." haha

I agree and disagree with you on the PUA tactics. After using PUA myself, it really helps you discover yourself who you are as a person. And experience things that you are afraid to try, like talking to random strangers. At the same time, the psychology and the philosophy behind understanding women and men - it does pay off in the long run. But, I definitely disagree with going to parties every weekend cause that just very exhausting - mentally and physically.

Ok whatever floats your boat. Play your "game" Make sure you come back and report to us the level of quality relationships you attract by not being yourself..

 

[masterpoonhunter]

To the OP, I recalled seeing other such polls you created so creeped your profile. It seems like all your originating posts are polls, so I guess you are in that category of 'curious'.

Be that as it may, to the point here, think of how you feel when you get accosted by a salesperson working from a script. The vast majority of people get their backs up instantly when that happens and that sale is not going to happen. Same thing when you work from a script in meeting people. You come across as phony, condescending, potentially arrogant and in a lot of cases as an asshole. Any potential 'date' is going to see through that shit with no hesitation and tell you to get lost. Those who practice this play a numbers game working the stats such that they just need one to fall for it for that one time. The reciprocal is true too. If the pickupee is following a script the result is the same - a big nope or a one time thing.

On the other hand just being genuine puts you way up front in the PU game and gets one on a path for at the very least a 2nd date. All my opinion of course.

 

[Ray]

Are you trying to pick up women to increase your 'body count'?
You're better off seeing an escort.

If you're trying to meet women in hopes of finding a life partner, don't play the pick up game. Expand your circle of friends, through shared interests, hobbies, work. If you have a pleasant enough personality, people will be drawn to you, want to introduce other friends to you. Sometimes, meeting with female friends too.
If people aren't interested in introducing you to their friends, work on your personality and possibly, personal hygiene.

 

[Coolsin000]

To the OP, I recalled seeing other such polls you created so creeped your profile. It seems like all your originating posts are polls, so I guess you are in that category of 'curious'.

Be that as it may, to the point here, think of how you feel when you get accosted by a salesperson working from a script. The vast majority of people get their backs up instantly when that happens and that sale is not going to happen. Same thing when you work from a script in meeting people. You come across as phony, condescending, potentially arrogant and in a lot of cases as an asshole. Any potential 'date' is going to see through that shit with no hesitation and tell you to get lost. Those who practice this play a numbers game working the stats such that they just need one to fall for it for that one time. The reciprocal is true too. If the pickupee is following a script the result is the same - a big nope or a one time thing.

On the other hand just being genuine puts you way up front in the PU game and gets one on a path for at the very least a 2nd date. All my opinion of course.

Thanks for taking the time to comment on this forum. We'll, first of all, I'm asking you if someone were to ask you for help - like your sons, nephew et cetera. Would you or would you not help them?

I'm not asking for help.

 

[Coolsin000]

Are you trying to pick up women to increase your 'body count'?
You're better off seeing an escort.

If you're trying to meet women in hopes of finding a life partner, don't play the pick up game. Expand your circle of friends, through shared interests, hobbies, work. If you have a pleasant enough personality, people will be drawn to you, want to introduce other friends to you. Sometimes, meeting with female friends too.
If people aren't interested in introducing you to their friends, work on your personality and possibly, personal hygiene.

Haha no I'm not. I'm just curious about, whether or not would you pass your knowledge to your sons, nephews et cetera. Cause I've been debating whether or not to pass down my experience to anyone - if they ever ask me for help.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Thanks for taking the time to comment on this forum. We'll, first of all, I'm asking you if someone were to ask you for help - like your sons, nephew et cetera. Would you or would you not help them?

I'm not asking for help.

You are creating polls though. Quite a few so I take that as someone looking for something from this forum other than the overall excellent comments that everyone provides. Have you ever offered a review?

 

[Coolsin000]

You are creating polls though. Quite a few so I take that as someone looking for something from this forum other than the overall excellent comments that everyone provides. Have you ever offered a review?

I've only created one poll at PERB.cc - not such where you would find my other polls?

Yes, this is my review for Asian fever;(https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/ashley-asian-fever.278689/page-2). You can check it out anytime.

 

[Shanghai]

First off, I had to look up "PUA Technique" and "MGTOW", and I regret doing so. Like, ewww. But that's just me.

The poll is missing a choice like:

​

7. This is a stupid poll, excuse me while I vomit.​

8. I am the cash-accepting hoe you seek.​

9. Focus on building out your social network and screw off with the PUA and MGTOW acronyms.​

If a non-provider knows you are even asking or researching such stuff and taking it seriously, that has to be lesson number one of "things NOT to do".

As a starting point to build out your social network, figure out what you are good at first. Use that as a starting point with an objective of finding ways to combine that with members of the opposite sex.

So, if you like collecting stamps, go to meetup groups and see how that goes. Join Facebook groups and interact by text; always a good starting point. People check out your profile, so make that interesting. Check out their profile and see what interests you, echo and communicate that interest. Watch TV, comment on shows, social themes, post meme's that you like, do the odd facebook live video, film yourself petting some chickens or taking a dump on your neighbor's garden gnomes. Whatever floats your boat.

If you are a gun-collecting incel that chooses to whine about not having a girlfriend, that attracts a different sort of crowd, so that may well be your true calling in life. Go topple some statues.

If you realize that the cool hot chicks you are into just don't hand around stamp clubs, you may find yourself in a dilemma of deciding whether or not to fake being interested in cars just to get in close proximity to the hot female flesh you so desire. So, you either invest in hot cars, or pay girls directly to get their attention in 15-60 minute increments. Your choice.

Another thing you can do is join co-ed activities that are not conversation-based, but require partnering, such as martial arts, boxing, judo, chess, and so on. You can be in close proximity to others and learn that way without imposing on someone to "teach" you "the way". People deficient in verbal and "cool" body interaction may have strengths in other areas. Figure out where your strengths lie.

You can also volunteer for activities such as soup kitchens, community work, farms. You can get up front and close to individuals that have it far worse than you, this will give you some perspective as well as get the warm fuzzies you are doing some public good.

Learning what you need to get to where you want to get might take you years, since everything worth doing takes practice. Taking shortcuts can may come at a price that is not immediately evident. You never know, you may meet someone on the same path as you and then you'll have company.

 

[g eazy]

I didn't have time to read every single response, but I swear this type of thread is created once a month and we all debate whether or not it's a troll. We usually assume the best at first, so here goes.

If you struggle "to get girls/woman", getting into PUA only addresses the symptoms, and not the problems at their root. While the whole 'just be yourself' is technically true, it doesn't provide very many actionable things to do, because OP 'just being himself' ended up being literally just by himself. Getting to the root of the problem requires you to open up and be honest to yourself about who you are, and what has shaped you to be who you are. If you need a hand with this 'self discovery' so to speak, clinical psychologist, counsellors, and life coaches (albeit I'd consider them my last choice) can help you get started.

That's not to say tactics like PUA wouldn't necessary work, but it wouldn't take long (ie. a date or two) for the other party to see you for who you really are. Or subsequently, for similar failures to still occur in other parts of your life. Doing shit like this is an easy cop-out. True self improvement isn't supposed to be easy, but it's so much more rewarding (especially in the long run) than engaging in this immature fuckboy behaviour. Nobody passes their 'how to pick up girls' technique down to their sons like some kind of fucking secret family recipe. Good parents teach their kids how to express their needs in a healthy way. They teach their kids how to have confidence in their own ability. They teach their kids, through experience, how to socially interact with people in all sorts of situations. They teach them to deliberate their choices but not the results that they can't control. They don't teach their kids to memorize commandment three on page 34 of the PUA bible or some shit like that.

 

[Andrew69913]

First off, I had to look up "PUA Technique" and "MGTOW", and I regret doing so. Like, ewww. But that's just me.

The poll is missing a choice like:

​

7. This is a stupid poll, excuse me while I vomit.​

8. I am the cash-accepting hoe you seek.​

9. Focus on building out your social network and screw off with the PUA and MGTOW acronyms.​

If a non-provider knows you are even asking or researching such stuff and taking it seriously, that has to be lesson number one of "things NOT to do".

As a starting point to build out your social network, figure out what you are good at first. Use that as a starting point with an objective of finding ways to combine that with members of the opposite sex.

So, if you like collecting stamps, go to meetup groups and see how that goes. Join Facebook groups and interact by text; always a good starting point. People check out your profile, so make that interesting. Check out their profile and see what interests you, echo and communicate that interest. Watch TV, comment on shows, social themes, post meme's that you like, do the odd facebook live video, film yourself petting some chickens or taking a dump on your neighbor's garden gnomes. Whatever floats your boat.

If you are a gun-collecting incel that chooses to whine about not having a girlfriend, that attracts a different sort of crowd, so that may well be your true calling in life. Go topple some statues.

If you realize that the cool hot chicks you are into just don't hand around stamp clubs, you may find yourself in a dilemma of deciding whether or not to fake being interested in cars just to get in close proximity to the hot female flesh you so desire. So, you either invest in hot cars, or pay girls directly to get their attention in 15-60 minute increments. Your choice.

Another thing you can do is join co-ed activities that are not conversation-based, but require partnering, such as martial arts, boxing, judo, chess, and so on. You can be in close proximity to others and learn that way without imposing on someone to "teach" you "the way". People deficient in verbal and "cool" body interaction may have strengths in other areas. Figure out where your strengths lie.

You can also volunteer for activities such as soup kitchens, community work, farms. You can get up front and close to individuals that have it far worse than you, this will give you some perspective as well as get the warm fuzzies you are doing some public good.

Learning what you need to get to where you want to get might take you years, since everything worth doing takes practice. Taking shortcuts can may come at a price that is not immediately evident. You never know, you may meet someone on the same path as you and then you'll have company.

I had to research that shit too lol....first I voted tell him about my past relationships AND MGTOW, because I thought it was just all about claiming your individualism and to not be ashamed of your masculine traits. Man was I wrong lol. I changed that vote quick lol......

 

[Andrew69913]

Woman can sense when a guy is getting laid? No man....just.....no. I feel you might be trying too hard to assume, guess, interpret, and control what a woman is thinking. Do you do this with men as well? To be yourself, you have to let go of all of that and accept you CANNOT read another persons mind....and they cannot read yours. People are as unsure and intimidated of you as you are of them. It's like the difference between hearing and listening if that makes sense.

 

[Shanghai]

Passion is all you need. That, plus any girl that says "yes". Learn from Eugene.

 

[golferjohn]

Teach the younger generation how to out-respect the other guys the girl he likes is going to meet, teach them how to have integrity, process their emotions and how to handle their anger. Teach them what it looks like to have healthy relationships and to have confidence to talk to women but mostly in themselves. Teach them how to plan fun dates, and be gentlemen, and to not ask girls for pics or bring up sex on dating apps if they actually want to have sex and that if they ONLY want sex, go see escorts and leave the girls looking for love alone. Teach them how to handle rejection, have dignity etc. Leave manipulation and deceit out of it.

This paragraph, (although I'm certain is well-intended) is the very seed that spawns these pathetic PUA schemes...it's this misnomer that has created a vacuum that sucks-in the awkward and horny guy who's only 'experience' with women is either through porn or his mom. Unfortunately, as men, we're so far behind the curve that the seemingly only alternative is MGTOW (or some variation). We're still held to account (and made responsible) for the health (and demise) of the relationship...so if she has felt somehow duped by the surreptitious means in which she was originally enamored, there's a 'get-out-of-jail' free card at her disposal.
There's a reason Sp's have been in existence since the beginning of civilization...anyone want to question why?

 

[VinVan]

I've never had a really tough time meeting women, but I read the PUA book at one time out of curiosity. I borrowed it from a female friend whose boyfriend had it on his bookshelf. She was telling me about her boyfriend and his relationship to the book and I found it interesting that she was still with him despite the fact he was obviously cruising other women, and the implied message that there was a "book" on how to pick up women.

I read it and found it disingenuous. At the end of the author's journey, he has the epiphany that women are humans too and the community he built was largely fake and out of control. If I can recall, most of the techniques were quite prescriptive and soulless: if girl says this, then you say that; if girl says that, then you say this; and so on and so on. It reminded me a little of lines of code, which I guess is why it would appeal to a certain segment of the population locked in a dark room coding or gaming and not out interacting with humans (maybe a bit of a stretch). I also found it quite misogynistic as most of the "moves" or "lines" involve making the woman feel insecure or negative about herself, instead of positive and uplifted. All of the prescriptions read to me like the seeds for an abusive relationship.

I agree with Miss Hunter's assessment that the OP would be better off teaching his son to be a loving human and the rest will take care of itself. I would hope that it's not a parent's job to teach their kids to party and pick up chicks.

"Here kid, drink this mickey of vodka and make sure you hit the middle of the toilet when you throw up."

"Hi son, after our driving lesson today, we're going to go to Starbucks and cruise some chicks, call them fat, make them feel shitty about themselves, and see if they'll date you."

 

[too timid]

IF this post is about mentorship, meeting girls, social skills and building a meaningful relationship then the only reasonable answer for me is to share my own experience. Im not familiar with PUA , but as explained above it seems like a bit of a demeaning algorithm to a bottom denominator of sex? Does seem fascinating but not that meaninful . MGTOW seem like scared/scorned men? While i fully support respect and appreciate sex workers and know that many are caring and compassionate souls that do share in meaningful relationships i think nondiscrimatory (except for money) affection is uncommon in the outside world.(ie civies, but there is no shortage of legit heartless gold diggers )

If i was to mentor anybody i would suggest that they take their pent up , misguided energy and angst and focus it on any positive goal other then sex. Exercise, learn an instrument, grow a garden, care for something/have apet, paint/draw, cook/create, hike/bike, study observe, learn, challenge what scares you and overcome it. Build your self worth , build your confidence, know your self worth. How can anybody find you intriguing , interesting or valuable if your not.

For example, i am , as my handle infers timid. i don't draw lots of attention, im not going up to an attraction randomly, im not hitting on anybody, im not going home with anybody , but when i am in a show (a personal challenge for an introvert like myself) confidently doing what i enjoy doing (a skill honed over many years) living life in the moment i sometimes get hit on.