Would you ever teach about this....?

[Coolsin000]

Hello everyone,

After reading through several hobbyist commenting on, "Women can sense when a guys is getting laid" (https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/women-can-sense-when-a-guys-is-getting-laid.237388/page-4), "Why do men use escorts?" (https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-do-men-use-escorts.188190/page-2#post-1426447), and "Personality or physical attraction to SP" (https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/personality-or-physical-attraction-to-sp.290940/page-2#post-2137003). It got me thinking about whether or not I should pass my knowledge, and my experiences to my kids, my nephews, friends et cetera.

A little back story about my life before I enter this hobby. When I was growing up, my dad and my older male cousins never taught me how to talk to girls, how to party and meet girls in the real world. Which I find it really strange because my parents - they LOVE to have fun, party and go out on multiple dates with the opposite sex.

But once my parents have kids - they become conservative (maybe because they are Asian?), and they don't want me to party and go out to socialize with friends. Once I enter University life, I had trouble to communicate with people (especially around girls), and I have a hard time socializing with people in any environment.

For me to solve this lack of knowledge about girl/find a girlfriend, I found, read and learn some of the Pickup Artist (PUA) manual/techniques (NOTE: I download the manual and didn't get a PUA teacher), The Art of Seduction, How to communicate effectively or How to win friends and influence people et cetera. Although, I didn't have much success with the ladies but I learn to effectively communicate with a lot of people or make small talks with people. But it's very superficial - nothing in-depth; which I could not make any connections with any of the girls. So, no passion and almost no romantic interest.

After my parents have divorced, - my parents starts to encourage me to meet and socializing with other people. As I have failed to mention that, my dad is a womanizer. He loves to meet woman but he never taught me anything about "The Game" or "The Art of seduction". Until these last two years, when I start my hobby two years ago that's when my dad start to tech me a bit of, "how to woo the ladies". NOTE: I think my dad actually encourages me to seek an SP; which I pretend I'm not interested or didn't know anything about the world of SP/MP.

Indeed, after several fail attempts to find another gf after my breakup - which I have stated on my other topic "What's your story for seeing an SP/being in this hobby?" https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/whats-your-story-for-seeing-an-sp-or-being-in-this-hobby.291924/) - I almost got into MGTOW (Men going their own way) before I start this hobby. Which I found this hobby really save me from a spiral of depression.

So, my question to you is, "would you ever teach/mentor your kids/nephews/younger brothers or friends about your experience(s) when they are struggling to meet girls?"

If you do mentor them - how would you start off the topic - through your personal life experience, PUA technique, MGTOW, SP/MP Hobby or let them figure it out?

 

[Miss Hunter]

I’m more than happy to teach men the proper way to handle PUA manuals.
Piss on them or burn them. Better yet, do both!

 

[Miss Hunter]

^^the same can be said about The Communist Manifesto.

 

[vanperb]

Depends on the person asking, and their reasons for it.
I would normally dissuade people from hobbying because I'd rather them develop skill sets that you yourself described as lacking, than to substitute / shortcut with escorts.
Also, if I know they're emotionally fragile and needy, again I would rather they work on themselves first than hire escorts.

Emotionally and financially stable with a long dry streak, I would help suggest a couple of escorts I know that would take care of them.

What I'm trying to say is that it depends on the person and their situation. This hobby can become addictive, financially / emotionally draining, and full of people who manipulate emotion and sex for a living. So definitely buyer beware.

 

[Miss Hunter]

Depends on the person asking, and their reasons for it.
I would normally dissuade people from hobbying because I'd rather them develop skill sets that you yourself described as lacking, than to substitute / shortcut with escorts.
Also, if I know they're emotionally fragile and needy, again I would rather they work on themselves first than hire escorts.

Emotionally and financially stable with a long dry streak, I would help suggest a couple of escorts I know that would take care of them.

What I'm trying to say is that it depends on the person and their situation. This hobby can become addictive, financially / emotionally draining, and full of people who manipulate emotion active nd sex for a living. So definitely buyer beware.

Addictive... how exactly? Please elaborate, I'm genuinely curious..

 

[Miss Hunter]

^^ One of the things that hit me hard when I attempted to retire was that I never finished asking questions about shit I'm curious about...

 

[Miss Hunter]

I did make an honest effort to walk away., but I fucked it all up. Whatever, I'm not a saint and will never pretend to be...

 

[Azul]

^^ One of the things that hit me hard when I attempted to retire was that I never finished asking questions about shit I'm curious about...

Why should you stop asking those questions??
No curiousity = dull fucking life to me
Its what you do with the answers to your curiosity that produces an outcome

 

[Azul]

Sorry for derail..
I would teach
Same as riding a bicycle or building a fire, changing a tire, etc, etc
The issue is always whether the student wants the lessons??

 

[Andrew69913]

I would do my best to teach them they are an individual in a community, and to be respectful of all other individuals AND the community. If you are in the hobby for any other reason than personal sexual exploration, you might want to think about what you are doing. That's from a client perspective of course, this is also a professional career for some lol. I would hope for most true professionals there is a feeling that you are helping others learn about themselves, as well as hard earned cash lol.

 

[masterblaster]

Hello everyone,

After reading through several hobbyist commenting on, "Women can sense when a guys is getting laid" (https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/women-can-sense-when-a-guys-is-getting-laid.237388/page-4), "Why do men use escorts?" (https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-do-men-use-escorts.188190/page-2#post-1426447), and "Personality or physical attraction to SP" (https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/personality-or-physical-attraction-to-sp.290940/page-2#post-2137003). It got me thinking about whether or not I should pass my knowledge, and my experiences to my kids, my nephews, friends et cetera.

A little back story about my life before I enter this hobby. When I was growing up, my dad and my older male cousins never taught me how to talk to girls, how to party and meet girls in the real world. Which I find it really strange because my parents - they LOVE to have fun, party and go out on multiple dates with the opposite sex.

But once my parents have kids - they become conservative (maybe because they are Asian?), and they don't want me to party and go out to socialize with friends. Once I enter University life, I had trouble to communicate with people (especially around girls), and I have a hard time socializing with people in any environment.

For me to solve this lack of knowledge about girl/find a girlfriend, I found, read and learn some of the Pickup Artist (PUA) manual/techniques (NOTE: I download the manual and didn't get a PUA teacher), The Art of Seduction, How to communicate effectively or How to win friends and influence people et cetera. Although, I didn't have much success with the ladies but I learn to effectively communicate with a lot of people or make small talks with people. But it's very superficial - nothing in-depth; which I could not make any connections with any of the girls. So, no passion and almost no romantic interest.

After my parents have divorced, - my parents starts to encourage me to meet and socializing with other people. As I have failed to mention that, my dad is a womanizer. He loves to meet woman but he never taught me anything about "The Game" or "The Art of seduction". Until these last two years, when I start my hobby two years ago that's when my dad start to tech me a bit of, "how to woo the ladies". NOTE: I think my dad actually encourages me to seek an SP; which I pretend I'm not interested or didn't know anything about the world of SP/MP.

Indeed, after several fail attempts to find another gf after my breakup - which I have stated on my other topic "What's your story for seeing an SP/being in this hobby?" https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/whats-your-story-for-seeing-an-sp-or-being-in-this-hobby.291924/) - I almost got into MGTOW (Men going their own way) before I start this hobby. Which I found this hobby really save me from a spiral of depression.

So, my question to you is, "would you ever teach/mentor your kids/nephews/younger brothers or friends about your experience(s) when they are struggling to meet girls?"

If you do mentor them - how would you start off the topic - through your personal life experience, PUA technique, MGTOW, SP/MP Hobby or let them figure it out?

In my opinion it’s not a hobby.

 

[cruefan]

Depends on the person asking, and their reasons for it.
I would normally dissuade people from hobbying because I'd rather them develop skill sets that you yourself described as lacking, than to substitute / shortcut with escorts.
Also, if I know they're emotionally fragile and needy, again I would rather they work on themselves first than hire escorts.

Emotionally and financially stable with a long dry streak, I would help suggest a couple of escorts I know that would take care of them.

What I'm trying to say is that it depends on the person and their situation. This hobby can become addictive, financially / emotionally draining, and full of people who manipulate emotion and sex for a living. So definitely buyer beware.

This whole paying for sex for money thing really works out well if you don't take it too serious and just have fun.

Paying For Sex 101

 

[West End Guy]

Without being critical, I’m unclear what this is about. Maybe it’s just me.

 

[Andrew69913]

...and all that crap you read...throw it ALL away....its just useless fortuneteller BS. Be honest, be open, be yourself. If you think you are going to fool anybody worth having a friendship with by using any kind of duplicitous "technique", you are mistaken.

 

[vanperb]

Addictive... how exactly? Please elaborate, I'm genuinely curious..

God I hope I don't sound condescending. I tried really hard not to.

• As a flat base point: Sex can be addictive. Sex is one of the brains primary survival reward patterns. That alone can make hobbying addictive.
• Add to that that most men are touch and intimacy starved. We've been trained most of our lives that touching and being touched in any way or form is non-masculine and should be avoided. Hobbying definitely satisfies this craving in an private non-judgemental environment that we wouldn't have otherwise. I also count those of us what are in relationships that have long since stopped even this basic form of intimacy.
• Add to that that most men are attention starved. Being with someone that can provide us the fantasy of being interesting to someone else is major enticement. Ask a guy friend how many times they've been complemented in their lifetime by the other sex , and I can almost guarantee you that he'll be able to recall every single one.
• Add to that a lot of us lack social skills or emotional maturity that would we be needed to have a regular source of companionship. Hobbying removes that barrier and replaces it with a financial one. It doesn't mean that we can be assholes, but the bar is lowered.

All those things added together creates the necessary parts for an easy to slip into payment for reward cycle, that can quickly accelerate into addiction.

 

[Coolsin000]

Without being critical, I’m unclear what this is about. Maybe it’s just me.

Well, the idea is, if you had a son/nephew/younger brother/friend that is telling you they are struggling to meet girls/ladies - would you ever share or mentor anyone about your experience with girls in the following categories that is listed on the polls?

Hope this helps.

 

[Coolsin000]

I’m more than happy to teach men the proper way to handle PUA manuals.
Piss on them or burn them. Better yet, do both!

Well, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. But I was hoping that you could elaborate more on how to improve one's skill beside being destructive? Especially, when you know someone is struggling to meet a girl/a lady.

 

[80watts]

Being destructive is what man is about, built it and rip it down.... oh destruction is easier.... comes naturally to man....

 

[Miss Hunter]

Well, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. But I was hoping that you could elaborate more on how to improve one's skill beside being destructive? Especially, when you know someone is struggling to meet a girl/a lady.

Just be yourself..have you ever tried that? Do you even know yourself?

PUA tactics are all about manipulating and deceiving women. Although the psychology behind it is fascinating.. it's really not what you want to do if you crave a real connection.

 

[islander1-1]

Hmmmm...... I have met a cpl "Escorts" in the past few years that need a few lessons...