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Who had the most detrimental impact on the Canucks?

  • John McCaw -- asshole owner!

    Votes: 11 11.3%

  • Dave Nonis -- just living in Burke's shadow!

    Votes: 10 10.3%

  • Brian Burke -- made the team, take the blame!

    Votes: 2 2.1%

  • Mark Crawford -- riding his undeserved rep too long!

    Votes: 17 17.5%

  • Markus Naslund -- lousy loser attitude for a captain!

    Votes: 12 12.4%

  • Todd Bertuzzi -- one hit wonder!

    Votes: 51 52.6%

  • The Goalies -- these whores will let anything in!

    Votes: 8 8.2%

  • The Defense -- take more breaks than the Teamsters!

    Votes: 8 8.2%

  • The Wingers -- ever heard of 'back-check'?

    Votes: 6 6.2%

  • The Fans -- will pay to watch shit float.

    Votes: 16 16.5%
  • Total voters
    97
LonelyGhost

LonelyGhost

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Who had the most detrimental impact on the 'team'?

you can have multiple votes.

I think the whole management from Owner to Coach really suck.

As for the Team: ever since Naslund became Captain they have had a loser attitude! I think he has talent as a sniper, but by playing hurt, he slowed down the team, took too many penalties, caused his linemates to take penalties trying to cover for him, sucked $6 million in salary that could have been used to find a replacement, and made excuses that shouldn't have been made.

If he had sat out from the Olympics on for the good of the team, they could have used his salary to get some decent players. Instead, the team paid a mediocre player TOP salary for nada.

Its easy to blame Bert, but Naslund had had a bigger impact on this team and has to go.
 
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Are u sure Naslund played in the Olympics? I think the fans are to blame we allow the team to play badly, by supporting them, by watching the team on < PayPer View and by going to the game if the owners thought theyed lose money, by lack of fan support maybe theyed lite a match under the coaches the players collective asses.
 
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My serious answer to this topic is the owner and the coach have the most responsibility to bear. I think Brian Burke was & is one of the brightest minds in the game, and the owner forced him out. Marc Crawford is one of the worst coaches IMO.
As for Naslund, he's a nice guy and talented player, but no team with a Swedish captain will ever succeed in the NHL. You need the heart and passion of a good Canadian boy to elevate your team to the heights needed to go anywhere in the playoffs.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong... ;)
 
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hey LonleyGhost.....you should have also included a choice for " all of the above" --- because they're all to blame!!
But it's a good question.....hard one to answer to just pick one....
 
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Smother said:
hey LonleyGhost.....you should have also included a choice for " all of the above" --- because they're all to blame!!
But it's a good question.....hard one to answer to just pick one....
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ran out of categories ... sorry!
 
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necko said:
Are u sure Naslund played in the Olympics? I think the fans are to blame we allow the team to play badly, by supporting them, by watching the team on < PayPer View and by going to the game if the owners thought theyed lose money, by lack of fan support maybe theyed lite a match under the coaches the players collective asses.
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nazzie sat out the olympics and should have sat out the rest of the season if he was injured ... there would have been salary and time to find a replacement.

because he decided to play the rest of the season, he cost his team in a myriad of ways.
 
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FuZzYknUckLeS

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It was a lackadaisical non-effort from all of the players, with the exception of maybe Carter. Oh well. Sucks 2 b him.

Maybe next year.

Why would you think that Naslund "has to go"? The guy leads the team in points. Last I checked, point leaders are a good thing to have.... :confused:
 
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FuZzYknUckLeS said:
Why would you think that Naslund "has to go"? The guy leads the team in points. Last I checked, point leaders are a good thing to have.... :confused:
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He cost $6M and is a fucking -19 up to game #81. Yeah some leader I'll say.:rolleyes:
 
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alot of good teams will go through a rough patch or two, teams like the devils have one the stanley cup and missed the playoffs next year. i think the biggest person that has to go is bertuzzi for what they are paying he needs to perform more then just the odd game or two
 
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Every team has a shelf life and the nucks have just gone past their
expiry date.........time to chuck it all in and start over folks !

End game.


...............QM'r
 
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My vote goes to John McCaw. As the owner, he is responsible for the firing of Burke. I believe had Burke still been with the team, he would have addressed the problems that plagued the Canucks all year and we would not be in the mess that we are. Dave Nonuts simply did not get the job done......:confused: :mad:
 
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Sure Burke assembled this team but really they haven't accomplished much in that time other than make the playoffs. They won one round against St. Louis when that whole team had the flu.

Burke was a shitty trader and I don't think he would have made much of a difference. If he tried to trade Bertuzzi, what do you think we would have gotten in return? Look how long it took for him to trade Bure and other than Jovo, we didn't get that much in return.
 
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aznboi9

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wolverine said:
Wasn't it Keenan who made the Bure and Bertuzzi trades?
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I think that Keenan made the trade for Bertuzzi, for Scatchard and that local kid, Bill or something. But I do remember Burke making the trade of Bure for Jovo and Co.
 
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FuZzYknUckLeS

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wilde said:
He cost $6M and is a fucking -19 up to game #81. Yeah some leader I'll say.:rolleyes:
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So he's a shitty defenseman. :confused: Damn good thing that isn't his position then I'd say. :rolleyes:
I dunno man, the team is simply lacking a leader as far as I'm concerned.
 
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wolverine said:
Wasn't it Keenan who made the Bure and Bertuzzi trades?
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Keenan traded Linden for Bertuzzi and McCabe. That was brilliant.

Burke traded Bure for Jovo. Who couldn't get Jovo when you had a guy like Bure in his prime.
 
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You should have added 'injuries' to the list.

What surprises me is that the Canucks beat Detroit 2x this year, Philly, NYR, Ottawa but lost all their games to St Louis.

Bertuzzi has to go regardless.

LonelyGhost said:
Who had the most detrimental impact on the 'team'?

you can have multiple votes.

I think the whole management from Owner to Coach really suck.

As for the Team: ever since Naslund became Captain they have had a loser attitude! I think he has talent as a sniper, but by playing hurt, he slowed down the team, took too many penalties, caused his linemates to take penalties trying to cover for him, sucked $6 million in salary that could have been used to find a replacement, and made excuses that shouldn't have been made.

If he had sat out from the Olympics on for the good of the team, they could have used his salary to get some decent players. Instead, the team paid a mediocre player TOP salary for nada.

Its easy to blame Bert, but Naslund had had a bigger impact on this team and has to go.
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