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http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/05/sex-addiction-growing-among-women-psychologists/

Sex addiction growing among women: psychologists
Postmedia News Jan 5, 2012 – 4:12 PM ET

The women spend hours online looking at pornography or looking for sex.

Some fantasize about being sexual in public. Others cruise bars looking for anonymous encounters with strangers. Tolerance builds and things get boring, so the women have to engage in ever-riskier or more frequent behaviour to get the same “hit,” or even just to feel normal.

Little is known about the prevalence of sexual addiction in women, but psychologists say the phenomenon is real and only now getting the attention given men.

“We’re seeing women getting into pornography in a way we’ve never seen before,” says psychologist and sex-addiction research pioneer Dr. Patrick Carnes, executive director of the Gentle Path program at Pine Grove Behavioral Center in Hattiesburg, Mississippi — the clinic where Tiger Woods reportedly sought treatment.

“Women are engaging in affairs, they’re engaging in sado-masochistic behaviour,” Carnes said. “This thing is just morphing right in front of us.

“We are seeing the biggest change in human sexuality maybe in the history of our species.”

But other observers are wary of the sudden flurry of attention to sex addiction. When do obsessions about sex cross the line into a pathological brain disorder, they ask — and who should get to establish norms for accepted amounts of sexual “activity” or desire?

According to Carnes, sexual addiction is estimated to afflict as much as 3% to 6% of the population and is defined as intense, sexually arousing fantasies, urges and behaviours that the person cannot control or stop, regardless of the consequences.

Profound shame keeps women from seeking help in the same proportion as men, Penny Lawson says — shame, as well as derogatory and loaded words such as “promiscuous” and “slut” that society attaches to these kinds of behaviours in women.

As a result, “women aren’t inclined to come forward and say, ‘I need help,’” says Lawson, creator of Canada’s first residential treatment program for sexual addiction at Bellwood Health Services in Toronto.

The Internet has created once unimaginable access to sexuality, anonymity and relationships, Lawson says — or at least to the illusion of relationships, she says.

Some women spend hours online in chat rooms connecting with men. Sex completely dominates their lives. Some women have chronic affairs; some engage in exhibitionism and dangerous sexual practices. Others spend all their time in fantasy without ever acting on it, Lawson says.

According to the American Society of Addiction Medicine, all addictions are fundamentally diseases of the brain. In a newly released definition of addiction, the society says addiction results from dysfunctional circuits in specific brain regions controlling reward, motivation and memory.

Addiction is defined by cravings — an increased “hunger” for drugs or rewarding experiences — and an inability to stop the behaviour despite devastating consequences.

In a 2006 article on sex addiction, Carnes described how women were taking on more “male” type behaviours, including “a new level of aggressiveness in approaching prospective sex partners.”

It may represent a shift in cultural or sexual mores, he said, or the fact “women are exercising greater freedom, which can manifest in compulsive behaviour.”

Other researchers say that women are motivated less by power, and more by pain, anxiety or desperation.

Early trauma appears to play a major role, as does a genetic vulnerability to other addictions. Women who struggle with sexually compulsive behaviour often experienced an inappropriate or premature introduction to the idea of sex, says Lawson, who recently helped organize a public meeting for women only on love, sex and relationship addiction.

“It could be actual sexual abuse by a family member, neighbour or someone in the community,” Lawson said. “But it might be finding dad’s porn. . . . It doesn’t have to be overt.”

Women usually don’t seek help until something has happened, some kind of “unacceptable consequence,” Lawson says.

“Perhaps the woman is online with multiple partners, or she’s gone to meet men she has met online and the husband finds out and says, ‘Get help or we’re done.’ She might have been discovered looking at porn online at the office.”

Lawson says that some of the women she has treated have been “high-functioning professionals” — women who can compartmentalize their lives, so that they function in their careers, marriages and as mothers without thinking about the four other relationships they have on the side.

Eventually, the behaviour becomes impossible to ignore, she says. “They don’t like what they’re doing, they don’t feel good about themselves or about what they’re doing. It goes against their own value system.”

But is sexually compulsive behaviour truly an addiction?

“That’s where I think the thinking breaks down,” says Christopher Lane, author of Shyness: How Normal Behavior Became a Sickness.

“There’s a lot of presumption among mental-health professionals that compulsivity, per se, indicates addiction,” Lane wrote in an email. “But people are compulsive about all kinds of things, often activities we consider beneficial — sports, hobbies, collecting, favourite bands, you name it — without being considered addicts.”

“When we collapse the two things, we end up mislabelling everything that looks broadly compulsive to us as the sign of an addiction, but it isn’t and it’s dangerous to assume otherwise.”

For one thing, he argues, it grossly inflates and distorts the number of people taken to be “mentally ill.”

And those numbers could soon greatly expand.

Excessive thinking about or engaging in sex is poised to become a new, officially recognized mental disorder.

“Hypersexual disorder” is among the disorders being recommended for inclusion in the next edition of psychiatry’s so-called “bible” of mental illness, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM.

According to a DSM work group, hypersexual disorder is “one of the more serious” but neglected psychiatric disorders of our time.

The diagnosis would capture men and women who experience “recurrent and intense” sexual fantasies, urges and behaviour for at least six months who also exhibit four or more of five criteria that include spending “excessive time” thinking about sex and engaging in these “fantasies, urges and behaviour” in response to anxiety, depression, boredom, irritability or other “dysphoric mood states.”

Lane questions whether psychiatrists should be setting themselves up to regulate what they assume to be “normal” amounts of sexual desire.

“Above all,” he writes in Side Effects, his Psychology Today blog, about the phrase “recurrent and intense sexual fantasies,” “should it matter that the majority of men and a sizable number of women in this country, as around the world, will recognize themselves in that description?”

Bellwood’s Lawson, who trained under Carnes, says sexual addiction is like any other addiction. “The face of it looks exactly the same to me. The properties are the same,” she said.

“The first step is understanding one’s own story, how I got here, from there. That’s very often what the addict who has just come out of denial wonders, ‘Why did this happen to me?’ ”

Part of treatment involves understanding the patterns that developed, working on “negative core beliefs,” self-esteem and learning what’s healthy in relationships.

“We need to raise awareness and give women an opportunity to come forward if they do identify” with sex addiction, she said.

“We want to get the word out that help is available.”
 

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/05/sex-addiction-growing-among-women-psychologists/

Sex addiction growing among women: psychologists
Postmedia News Jan 5, 2012 – 4:12 PM ET


“We’re seeing women getting into pornography in a way we’ve never seen before,” says psychologist and sex-addiction research pioneer Dr. Patrick Carnes, executive director of the Gentle Path program at Pine Grove Behavioral Center in Hattiesburg, Mississippi — the clinic where Tiger Woods reportedly sought treatment.



According to the American Society of Addiction Medicine, all addictions are fundamentally diseases of the brain. In a newly released definition of addiction, the society says addiction results from dysfunctional circuits in specific brain regions controlling reward, motivation and memory.

Addiction is defined by cravings — an increased “hunger” for drugs or rewarding experiences — and an inability to stop the behaviour despite devastating consequences.


In a 2006 article on sex addiction, Carnes described how women were taking on more “male” type behaviours, including “a new level of aggressiveness in approaching prospective sex partners.”




But is sexually compulsive behaviour truly an addiction?

“That’s where I think the thinking breaks down,” says Christopher Lane, author of Shyness: How Normal Behavior Became a Sickness.

“There’s a lot of presumption among mental-health professionals that compulsivity, per se, indicates addiction,” Lane wrote in an email. “But people are compulsive about all kinds of things, often activities we consider beneficial — sports, hobbies, collecting, favourite bands, you name it — without being considered addicts.”

“When we collapse the two things, we end up mislabelling everything that looks broadly compulsive to us as the sign of an addiction, but it isn’t and it’s dangerous to assume otherwise.”



Excessive thinking about or engaging in sex is poised to become a new, officially recognized mental disorder.

“Hypersexual disorder” is among the disorders being recommended for inclusion in the next edition of psychiatry’s so-called “bible” of mental illness, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM.

According to a DSM work group, hypersexual disorder is “one of the more serious” but neglected psychiatric disorders of our time.


What a load of crap. Shame on the National Post for publishing this kind of garbage and passing it off as legit science.

I mean, really. The dude makes his living by pushing the sexual addiction myth.

The DSM has repeatedly rejected sexual addiction as mental illness and there is nothing suggesting that will change. What the hell is a DSM work group (lobby group, maybe?) and why could the author actually refer to it by name or offer any kind of information? He/She seems to make this vague, unverifiable reference to a group knowing it's probably going to be interpreted as the group responsible for the DSM, when in fact it is not.

I think this piece could be used as an example of biased, dishonest and misleading reporting as a result of either lazy, irresponsible "journalism" or straight up propaganda. Pathetic.


But thanks for posting it, I think I might comment on the National Post page or send them an email.




The Profit in Sex Addiction
Treating sex addiction is a VERY lucrative business.


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201111/the-profit-in-sex-addiction



The finances that lie behind the concept of sex addiction are a significant concern. Treatment for sex addiction is not cheap. A month's treatment at some residential sex addiction treatment programs can cost over $37,000. Sex addiction is big business. All the celebrity attention to sex addiction has driven many more people into the offices of sex addiction therapists nationwide.

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In the Arizona desert, about an hour from Phoenix, is The Meadows, an elite treatment center where you can go if you are struggling with addiction to drugs, alcohol, or sex and can afford the steep price tag. For a bit over a thousand dollars a day, you get intense treatment designed to address issues that affected you in your childhood, as well as any traumas that continue to impact your adult life. You do so in a facility with an extremely talented gourmet chef, granite bathrooms, and beautiful fountains, art, and sculpture all around the campus. Notably, there are also giant saguaro cacti all around the facility, giant plants that resemble penises and sex toys so much that they are hard to ignore.


The staff there are dedicated and seem to be good people, genuinely interested in helping people make changes in their lives. But this facility generates close to $2 million a month for the for-profit investment firm that owns the facility. Some sexual addicts choose to stay in their facility long term for treatment, sometimes as long as six months. And all of this is paid for by cash-this program doesn't bill insurance for their treatment.

The Meadows Rehab, where actor David Duchovny has reportedly gone for sexual addiction treatment, is the "ground zero" for the movement to treat sex addiction. The Meadows' senior fellows are Pia Mellody, author of Facing Love Addiction and Breaking Free; Claudia Black, author of It Will Never Happen to Me and Changing Course; and Patrick Carnes, author of Out of the Shadows and The Betrayal Bond. These authors have all written best-selling books on addiction, sex addiction, and codependency. As one critic argues in reference to these senior Meadows fellows, "Sex addiction was invented by a self-help group aided by popular books. It is trying now to move over into a medical condition."

The concept of sexual addiction is driven by economic factors. The professionals who feed the media's need for psychological and biological explanations of sexual behaviors are the same professionals who make very good livings providing treatment services to individuals who self-identify with sexual addiction after hearing these doctors and therapists on television. The proselytizing of sex addictionologists is a form of disease mongering, where they are using the media, hype, and fear to create a disorder where none truly exists.




I've posted this one recently but it specifically addresses this:


Don’t believe the sex addiction hype

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/29/dont_believe_the_sex_addiction_hype/


Never mind that it was rejected from the upcoming revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), psychiatry’s bible.

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There’s a gross over-representation and exaggeration of research. The sex-addiction concept is a belief system, not a diagnosis; it’s not a medically supported concept. The science is abysmal.

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The thing that drives me craziest is that over the past year or two, [proponents of the sex addiction model] have started trying to use brain science to explain it. They’re now talking about morphological changes that supposedly happen in the brain as somebody watches porn or has too much sex. The reality is, careful scientists will tell you they are absolutely unable to identify any brain differences between these alleged sex addicts and non-sex addicts. The other thing that they’ll tell you is that the brain changes constantly — any behavior that a person engages in, especially repetitively, changes your brain. So, identifying changes related to this sexual behavior and distinguishing it from anything else is absolutely ridiculous.

What they’re doing is trying to build credibility. The major way that they build credibility is through metaphor, or “valley-girl science,” as I call it. They will tell you, and [the Newsweek] article is a good example of it, that sex addiction is like an eating disorder, it’s like a heroin addiction. The reality is this is an incredibly weak form of argument, because it’s so subjective; and when they tell you that sex addiction is like an eating disorder, they don’t tell you all the things that are different about it. They live by anecdotes, because they don’t have good science.

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They are typically unable to put forth a healthy model of sexuality, and when they do, it is so transparently conservative and religiously driven that it’s frightening. Most of the leaders of the sex-addiction movement are themselves recovering supposed sex addicts and religious folks. That’s fine, it’s fine for them to be advocating, but what they’re advocating for is a moral system, not a medical one.

For a while, they were pushing the idea that if you had an orgasm once a day, every day, that made you a sex addict — but they finally had to back off on that because data was building up showing that there are lots of people who have sex once a day and have no problems. That’s the other big hole in their argument: For every one of the behaviors they raise as addictive — whether it’s porn, strip clubs, masturbation, infidelity, going to prostitutes — I can present 10,000 people who engage in the exact same behavior and have no problems, and they can’t explain why that is.

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This is a moral attack on sexuality. They it is in the interest of people to build and develop fear of sex. Because they think that if we’re not afraid of sex, people are going to go out and have lots of sex. God forbid.

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I think it’s a perfect storm. It’s the media and the transparency of our society. All of these behaviors have been happening for millennium — people cheating, people having lots of sex, people viewing pornography. There’s nothing new about this. But all of a sudden we have this 24/7 media that is hungry for scandals. “Gotcha” journalism grabs an audience by putting out a sound bite, a meme, as quickly as possible, regardless of how true it is. The memes that grab the most are black-and-white, two-dimensional concepts. Rather than explaining that there are thousands of reasons a person might engage in infidelity, it’s easier to say: Sex addict.

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Instead of examining the application of the concept of monogamy over a 30- or 40-year marriage, and looking at how male sexuality works, it’s much easier to say: “Well, it’s a disease.” I include a quote in my book where a woman says, “When my husband was cheating, it really was a comfort to consider it a disease and that it really wasn’t his fault. Finally, I had to realize that it wasn’t a disease, it was just him being selfish and treating my life and health casually.” If we look at it as a choice, what changes?

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There is a dramatic risk of stigma and over-diagnosis. Gay and bi men often engage in significant promiscuity that is outside the norm for heterosexual men, and certainly for heterosexual women — are they eligible to get diagnosed as sex addicts? Yeah. A social worker I talked to at a mental hospital told me that whenever an LGBT person was admitted onto the psych ward, they automatically considered them as having hypersexual disorder, because they were concerned that person might act out sexually on the unit.

There’s incredible risk of pathology here — we only need to look at the history of nymphomania to see that. Women had their clitorises removed they were subjected to electroshock therapy, all kinds of medication. When female sexuality was diagnosed as a disease. Now male sexuality is diagnosed as a disease, only instead of getting electroshock therapy they get the country-club treatment for 30 days.

(And now women's sexuality can go back to being a disease again too, I guess!)




Sex addiction: The truth is out there

http://pressblog.uchicago.edu/2008/09/10/sex_addiction_the_truth_is_out.html


The Meadows Rehab... Its senior fellows .. Patrick Carnes, author of Out of the Shadows and The Betrayal Bond. None of them are medical doctors but what they all share in common is that they wrote best-selling books on addiction, sex addiction, and co-dependency. In other words, sex addiction was invented by a self-help group aided by popular books. It is trying now to move over into a medical condition




Is "Sex Addiction" a Dangerous Myth?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/think-well/201008/is-sex-addiction-dangerous-myth




THE MYTH OF SEX ADDICTION


http://www.sexed.org/newsletters/issue01.html#myth


http://mindhacks.com/2009/04/16/the-myth-of-sex-addiction/
 

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Whether it truly is sex addiction or not, is besides the point.
I think what is true is that current technology has fueled the saturation of sexual imagery in entertainment, news, etc., and this has in turn changed people's attitudes towards sex.

I believe women these days are "kinkier" - or in other words, more willing to experiment, most women under the age of 40 now shave their pussies, more younger women are dating much older men than before (ie: at least over a decade), more women are turning to prostitution as a "legitimate" source of income, there is more exhibitionism and voyeurism, children are becoming sexual before their teens, sexuality is replacing every form of identity, etc.

Frankly I think this is not a good trend.
 

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Is it not possible for addictive behaviour to be centred around sex? While there isn't the direct chemical link like there is with cigarettes, cocaine, etc., if one becomes fixated on the opiate rush generated by sexual activity, are you not, in a sense, addicted?
 

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Is it not possible for addictive behaviour to be centred around sex? While there isn't the direct chemical link like there is with cigarettes, cocaine, etc., if one becomes fixated on the opiate rush generated by sexual activity, are you not, in a sense, addicted?
No, that is not addiction; just because you seek something you enjoy to a great degree doesn't make you an addict. An addict is one whose addiction causes compulsions that are unstoppable and eventually harms them or others, that prevents one from differentiating between right and wrong and replacing that with what they are addicted to.
 

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Um woohoo?

Other researchers say that women are motivated less by power, and more by pain, anxiety or desperation.

Early trauma appears to play a major role, as does a genetic vulnerability to other addictions. Women who struggle with sexually compulsive behaviour often experienced an inappropriate or premature introduction to the idea of sex, says Lawson, who recently helped organize a public meeting for women only on love, sex and relationship addiction.
 

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This article sounds like yet another way of shaming women who are sexual. The reason these women mentioned in the article feel bad for their actions is because society STILL shames women for being sexual at all. I'm not denying that sex addiction exists, but I think it's vastly inflated.

Girls love attention & drama.
That makes no sense whatsoever, lol. First of all, humans in general love attention and drama. And if you find that the women you're surrounded by seem to love it more then the men you know, perhaps it's because *gasp* that's the only type of women you choose to surround yourself by! lol. And how that even relates to sex addiction, I have no idea. Yeah, a warped need for attention can often in part lead to addiction, but it's much more complicated than that and it's certainly not more prevalent in women than in men, that's for sure.

And "jesuschrist", there's nothing wrong with women being kinkier. We're finally starting to get some equality regarding sex (although we're still a long way off from getting the same sort of sexual freedom men enjoy). And I'm not sure why you put legitimate in quotations when you mentioned prostitution. It is a legitimate source of income, and a legitimate career-choice. I will however agree that children are becoming too sexual too soon, and not in healthy ways at all. But at least in regards to adults we're slowly getting to place of sexual freedom, although that's still a long way off.
 

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I'm not sure about this sexual inequality that's being mentioned. Perhaps in an office setting. But that's not a world I live in. In mixed company I'm refered to as a pig more often than the women we spend time with are refered to as sluts - and neither group are being derogatory in the discussion. During high school/university promiscuous people (of either gender) were not mistreat, it was simply harder for them to find a relationship as they were more often viewed as fwb's or booty calls (again applies to both genders). This did not change while I lived in a resort community nor has it changed now that I associate with tradesman, farmers, and small business owners in smaller towns ( in fact here a bi woman is more acceptable than a bi male). Again I don't live in large metropolis' or deal with big business office politics. But then again private lives are supposed to be private.
 

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And "jesuschrist", there's nothing wrong with women being kinkier. We're finally starting to get some equality regarding sex (although we're still a long way off from getting the same sort of sexual freedom men enjoy). And I'm not sure why you put legitimate in quotations when you mentioned prostitution. It is a legitimate source of income, and a legitimate career-choice. I will however agree that children are becoming too sexual too soon, and not in healthy ways at all. But at least in regards to adults we're slowly getting to place of sexual freedom, although that's still a long way off.
I never stated or even suggested that women being kinkier is a bad thing. In fact, I think its a very very good thing.
As for "legitimate" with regard to prostitution income, I was not referring to anyone's personal opinion on the matter because that makes no difference to the argument, I was referring to how society is trending in terms of its view of prostitution and that it will always be questionable (take for example, even where it is sanctioned by the government and taxed - in Germany - how difficult it still is to arrive at its acceptance socially). I don't understand why prostitutes get very defensive and immediately need to counter even a slight suggestion on the legitimacy of this income, but frankly who cares what anyone thinks? How one earns their money is strictly one's own business unless it is earned by harming people. Did you earn it by ripping people off? No, you earned it legitimately (by giving service or goods for money, to the satisfaction of the consumer), and that's all that matters. That's the only definition of "legitimate" we should be concerned with, but being offended at any slight seems to suggest that you think "legitimate" might mean the way others refer to doctors and accountants as legitimate. That also brings to mind those in prostitution and others who like to throw around "profession" when referring to their activities, which is another silly cover for their own shame about what they do.

Anyways, the bad trend I was referring to mostly is the adulteration of children sexually, though I do think that prostitution being introduced to girls in high school or younger is a reality today and a very very bad thing.
 

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And "jesuschrist", there's nothing wrong with women being kinkier. We're finally starting to get some equality regarding sex (although we're still a long way off from getting the same sort of sexual freedom men enjoy). And I'm not sure why you put legitimate in quotations when you mentioned prostitution. It is a legitimate source of income, and a legitimate career-choice. I will however agree that children are becoming too sexual too soon, and not in healthy ways at all. But at least in regards to adults we're slowly getting to place of sexual freedom, although that's still a long way off.

Really..........equality....?????????????






.....................on the other hand................it's not like it's a fair playing field.



 

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Did Barbara Kay comment on this?
I would get kick out of reading what she has to say on this.
I think this is just one of those "National Post" type of article.
It is nonsense to be upset about it.
It's National Post, after all.
 

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I don't understand why prostitutes get very defensive and immediately need to counter even a slight suggestion on the legitimacy of this income,

That's the only definition of "legitimate" we should be concerned with, but being offended at any slight seems to suggest that you think "legitimate" might mean the way others refer to doctors and accountants as legitimate. That also brings to mind those in prostitution and others who like to throw around "profession" when referring to their activities, which is another silly cover for their own shame about what they do.
If I started attacking your career choice and essentially your entire character because of said career choice would you not be defensive? Maybe you wouldn't, if I was the only person to ever criticize it. SPs have to face an entire society thinking the worst of them because of something most of us enjoy doing. And yes, prostitution is just as legitimate as a doctor or accountant, they're all important in different ways. (Obviously prostitutes don't directly save lives like doctors do but I still believe it's a job that helps people).

I'm not sure whether you're implying that all SPs feel shame over their profession (and it is a profession just as much a doctor or accountant), or only certain ones. I hope you mean only certain SPs because many if not most SPs enjoy their work and feel no shame. (not that I'm trying to speak for anyone but just from my impression of others' opinions).

Anyway, sorry this thread has gotten a bit derailed, lol.
 

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OK, original intent was to poke a bit of fun, in cheeky fashion, at the headline of the story; you know, men being thrilled over an increase in serially horny women?

You know...

*insert sound of crickets here*

Ah well, maybe next time :)

Interesting discussion, though!
 
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