Will Fuck for Food!!!!!!! WTF????

[Krustee]

My opinion is WHY do you guys care SO much about a) our reasons b) our income c) how many clients we rrrrreally see d) whether or not some are on welfare e) whether or not some, all or none of us pay taxes.

Well I have been to at least 8 SP's that within the first 15 minutes of my talking to them ask me what kind of job I have & later in the conversation, ease thier way into how much people in my profession make .

It just seems to me that the vast majority of SP's are very interested in how much I earn.

Seriously guys, WHY do you even care? And do you really think SP's are going to enthusiastically rush to answer all these non-sense questions that are NONE of your business. That's my opinion.

Well you see, that's just it.
I get questions from almost all the SP's who I've seen & yet whenever I ask what they make in return it is a taboo question.

Why is that?

If you guys are so bitter about the money we make (or you think we make ) and bitter about spending that kind of money.. then don't spend it. But spending it does not entitle you to ask for or expect any of that personal information.


Geeeeeez. Seriously! WHY do you guys even care?
Enough already.

Well last year I paid over $50,000 in taxes worked an average of 55hrs p. week.

I have spent over $20,000 on my education & never did finish my degree.

I work with guys who have Masters & Doctorates in thier disciplines & they make a top of $146,000 with a Ph.D.

So if it is OK to ask me my income whay can't we ask the SP's what they are making?

I figured an anonymous poll or question would be a no risk way of getting my question answered.

I guess we will never know.


Can you at least tell me if you think an SP should be making more than a doctor with 8-9 years of education?

Are they really more valuable?

 

[ladyluck]

I don't know you tell me, your a pooner, Am I correct?

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Well I have been to at least 8 SP's that within the first 15 minutes of my talking to them ask me what kind of job I have & later in the conversation, ease thier way into how much people in my profession make .

It just seems to me that the vast majority of SP's are very interested in how much I earn.

Good for you... I guess.

Here's a thought: I have zero interest in finding out (let alone, asking!!) a client how much he makes. Not in the first 15 minutes any more than the second or last.

That 8 sp's have asked you this very personal question seems odd to me, as I have never nor do I ever plan on asking anyone in the future, but hey, if you don't mind then it's all good.

Well you see, that's just it.
I get questions from almost all the SP's who I've seen & yet whenever I ask what they make in return it is a taboo question.

Why is that?

Well, considering these SP's have just asked you how much you make... then yes, that's odd. But as I said, the fact that all of them would even ask in the first place is odd... so maybe this is more about your choice in SP's than anything else.


But again, I haven't asked you how much you make, nor do I care.. So why do you feel it's appropriate to not only ask how much I make, but to also speculate and make all kinds of assumptions about something you really know nothing about? It really is none of your business how much I make.


Do you ask acquaintances, strangers, people you've just met, etc.. how much they make? I doubt it.. and if you do, you might want to look into getting some manners. I've always been under the impression that asking something like this when you don't know someone (ie when it's none of your business) is considered pretty rude an inappropriate. Just the way I was raised.. Am I the only one here?

Well last year I paid over $50,000 in taxes worked an average of 55hrs p. week.

I have spent over $20,000 on my education & never did finish my degree.

I work with guys who have Masters & Doctorates in thier disciplines & they make a top of $146,000 with a Ph.D.

So if it is OK to ask me my income whay can't we ask the SP's what they are making?

Who said it was okay to ask you? You just gave the information yourself.. no one asked you for it?? I certainly didn't ask you for it!

Can you at least tell me if you think an SP should be making more than a doctor with 8-9 years of education?

Are they really more valuable?

Define: valuable.

 

[Krustee]

Good for you... I guess.

Define: valuable.

Okee dokee;

Of great importance, use, or service
having worth or merit or value


Thanks for sharing!

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I have nothing but respect for your line of work, but in Asia, the form of government they have does not support any poor or weak people. Asian government want economic prosperity, no welfare system for the unfortunate. Here you girls can still live off welfare. Back there, you lazy, you die. Theres more survival need to it.

Giving your opinion about these things is fine, and while I am still not convinced that this is the case for ALL of these girls, I wouldn't know so I'm definitely not going to argue about that. What I am saying is that explaining your reasons and choice to support these girls and their family because of the hard life conditions, by making it into some sort of honorable act on your part is BS and a joke.


If that is the case, then as an ethical pooner, you could easily come up with ways to enable these girls to work a little less while they're here sacrificing their body for their families sake. You know, sort of like fair trade? Pay rates that don't show such a gap in comparison to local rates, or go with your little idea from the other thread, but you know.. without filling up your pockets in the process, and letting them make the additional money. (I know, yeah right..what's in it for you then, huh?!)


Not going to happen, is it? Too bad, I'm sure that all of you working so hard to help this girls out could make such a difference in how much they could send home.

Call it like it is and cut the hero act, because it's not convincing in the slightest. Please.



I would reply to the rest of your post if it actually made sense to me.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

omg

Okee dokee;

Of great importance, use, or service
having worth or merit or value


Thanks for sharing!

Why don't you just come out and say what you are dying to say? Honestly?


Making it into some kind of question or poll, trying to get someone else to say what you are pussy footing around saying isn't exactly subtle or even fooling anyone.
It's not any less offensive and now on top of it, it's painfully annoying.

And the fake or 'Thanks for sharing!' don't really make the things you are continually implying (in a passive aggressive sneaky way) any less insulting.

You have something to say? Just freakin' spit it out and own up to it like an adult. Geez.


But thanks for sharing!!!!!!





k. i'm done.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

No more money for the girls though, i think they made just enough.

you think so?
oooooh i see your point. if they made any more money, they might all of a sudden want to......... *GASP*.......... work less!

You're right, they make just enough.

 

[FortunateOne]

some points to consider

I think, of all the things people doubted, one thing they still believe: Nadia's claims of making $10,000 a month. The likelihood of an sp making 10,000 a month is slim. And I think that she has done alot of sps a disservice by using that figure in her attempt to justify her claims. To make that sort of income you need many things going for you: youth, location, availability 24-7, web presence, heavy advertising (which costs $$$$$ monthly), someone to book your appointments for you, even. An sp could only do incalls, because of travel time turns a one hour appt into 3 hours of her time unavailable for any other appt. Reality is that with the no-shows, late arrivals, etc etc. it is actually very difficult to see more than 1-2 clients a day, especially if you don't have all that. The phone doesn't ring non-stop, people aren't lined up outside for the next available time, I'm sure. This is one of the many myths of this business.
Would they see more than 1-2. Of course. Can they see more than 1-2...probably not.

 

[FortunateOne]

oh, and

Are they more valuable than a doctor
Of great importance, use, or service
having worth or merit or value

When there is an sp out there making $100,000 plus per year every year for 40 years (like a doctor would) then I would have to say she is as valuable as a doctor.
Until then, I think the question is irrelevant -- apples and oranges.

 

[Enchanted One]

$10,000/Monthly Possible

I know a retired SP who was making pretty much that figure. However in
order to make that amount, you pretty much have to socialize with people
who know you are a SP. She didn't have any kids to look after. Most of her
close friends,parents and even boyfriends knew of her occupational choice.
So she was able to answer her phone in front of them.

If she was having dinner with a friend and a client wanted to see her asap,
she would kiss her friend goodbye and leave the restaurant promptly. You
certainly couldn't do that with a 'square' friend (answering your business
phone in front of him/her & leaving without warning).

She was on call basically from 10 am until about midnight. I guess she was
quite motivated since she has expensive taste and likes to treat herself and
her mom to major cosmetic procedures (tummy tuck, liposuction, lip
augmentation, etc).

She didn't advertise heavily. She advertised mainly in WE. I guess this was
before CL became really popular. I guess it also didn't hurt that she was
almost a dead ringer for Pamela Anderson.

But she also got burned out as well...she's been out of the biz for over
three years and making a living doing something entirely different.

 

[asian dragon]

This thread is getting rather long. What difference does is make who charges what or how much does anyone make? As with any business or service, there are different prices for everything. Most of us work for a living doing whatever they do, some of us make more, some less. The money we make is spent on whatever we have to, rent, mortgage, food, clothes, SP's etc. If someone wants to charge less for whatever, so what? Market price dictates itself with quality and service. If an SP can make 10G's or more a month, good for her as she is probably towards the top of her profession. How she does it is up to her and it is really none of our business to be prying. The better ones offer us premium service for our hard earned money. It is just like there are those who shop at Walmart and Zellers and those of us who shop at Holts & Neiman Marcus. You spend your hard earned bucks as you can afford. Instead of getting all worked up about this, you should relax and enjoy your times together.

 

[Krustee]

After that, fuck off and mind your own business.

Ahh, I love an intelligent comment like that!



I think this was a good opportunity for the SP's and pooners to voice their opinon on an obviously touchy subject that most would not dare broach.

As I could really care less what some of the less intelligent & obnoxious jerks say I don't get offended by their vitriol.

To me it just hi-lights their personal character.

But there are those who bring an open mind & interesting viewpoints that make these threads all the more interesting.

Good for you peeps!

 

[Ima]

I don't think you guys understand the emotional & physical toll this job takes.

When you care about your job and performance, all jobs take an emotional & physical toll on you... If they didn't, likely the people who make good money wouldn't be paid the top salaries...

Sure, I spend 55 hrs plus a week in the office, but also I think about work after the day is done, it can be difficult to shut off... The stress of start up on a project after months of working on it, is tough, the mind rattles and second guesses itself, did you do all your calculations properly, etc...

I guess the point, is that we all have stress and I don't like to think anyone has it worse or better than myself, we each deal with stress differently, what I consider stressful someone else may not, and vice versa... Just enjoy yourself, be happy and make as much money doing that as you can and who cares what someone else may think of you for doing that, it is your business, if you want to share your business, well that is your business as well...

ps, I am not picking on your Adriana, just using your post as a jumping point to say peace be upon you all... personally, I hope all you girls make as much money as you can, never sell yourself short, we live in a capitalist country, take advantage of it or it will take advantage of you... Just kick down some lo prices to me

 

[Ima]

It is rather sad how 'society' treats you... But the good thing about society is there are individuals who do not think that way, just must be tough seeking them out or even opening up in fear of the judgement...

We are all trying to making our way through life, it sucks how some people tend to piss on others in order for them to feel better about themself...

As Rodney King said... Can we just all get along... Then something about beating it, but that would be for another thread...

 

[jraf]

Will Fuck For Food....

Ladies,

Problem solved. Just check this ad on Craigslist: Buenos Aires.
All you have to do is sign-up.

(And if you believe this, I've got a few deals of my own... )


buenos aires craigslist > erotic services

Look For Hot Ladies To Come To Canada & Japan - w4m
Reply to: pers-583577169@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-02-23, 12:27AM ART


Hello Ladies we are looking for ladies to come to Canada for our busy
agency. We are looking for hot and exotic woman that are willing to travel
and don't mind making 20-30K a month.
Please e mail if you are interested and only serious inquires Thanks!


* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests


PostingID: 583577169

Going with 25K as a median "promise" and assuming the agency takes 50%, the ad responders would have to take in 50k/m which is equal to 11,550/week . Assuming that they would have 1 day off per week (probably a big assumption), then they would have to take in 1925/day.

At a low end of 75/customer, that would be 26 customers/day.
A 15/20 min show consumes at least 1/2 hr, so that would be, at best, 13 hours of continuous appointments.

I hope they get no responders, but I'm sure they will.

 

[belair]

Then something about beating it, but that would be for another thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8

 

[TheMayor]

I dont really post much here but found this thread quite interesting.

Now I dont know if you guys have ever had GF's or are forgetting a simple fact here, but its impossible for a girl to work 6-7 days a week consitering she will basically be unable to have sex for 3-6 days out of every 28 day "cycle"

I agree with some of what has been posted tho, a lot of these girls are making a lot of TAX FREE money and that is defintaley not right consitering all of us normals have to pay income tax and these girls benifit from all the things that income taxes pay for.

Id say making about $800-1000 per day is realistic number for top excorts, infact if you read on carmanfox's web site she states somewhere under the employment section that girls should expect to make 1000/shift at the fox den. So working 10-12 shifts a month would net aprox 10k a month income. If you ask me thats a fuck of a lot of money for whats being done but hey us men (including me) are willing to pay it so what can you do, thats the open market system.