Will computers take your job over

[87112]

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn...puters-make-human-workers-obsolete/?hpt=wo_r1

I lost my job of 16 years last year. What is safe for now and ever. Of course being a SP is # 1 to be never taken over
Next is hair stylist. TV writers, book writers to be here awhile and forever.
Janitor jobs like garbage man maybe not so safe if you think what a robot can do on a auto plant.
Safe jobs may be a cpu programmer to get rid of you next.

 

[AA_Train]

My Job has a QA element to it and a computer cannot critically think in a way that is needed to accurately complete the task. In that regard, my job is safe.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

My Job has a QA element to it and a computer cannot critically think in a way that is needed to accurately complete the task. In that regard, my job is safe.

A computer could take over my job, but it would likely not be as effective in the end result...

 

[badbadboy]

I was just on the phone lamenting about this continued outsourcing of skills to less expensive high tech areas such as China, India and S Korea.

First it was the manufacturing, then the procurement and now a number of clients are outsourcing engineering to foreign high tech areas. The argument that their I P may be compromised to nations that have access to their proprietary designs appears to be less of a concern these days. Truly a slippery slope.

 

[Thatotherguy]

There are always going to be IT jobs to develop, maintain, and troubleshoot the software, so my job is pretty safe.

 

[sdw]

I was just on the phone lamenting about this continued outsourcing of skills to less expensive high tech areas such as China, India and S Korea.

First it was the manufacturing, then the procurement and now a number of clients are outsourcing engineering to foreign high tech areas. The argument that their I P may be compromised to nations that have access to their proprietary designs appears to be less of a concern these days. Truly a slippery slope.

Companies have to trade integrity of their IP for productivity. There are a lot of things that impact productivity that aren't directly the fault of the employee. Workplace Health & Safety practices for incidence. It's becoming too expensive to test prototypes or do pre-production process analysis. Once you have prototyped and set up the production line in China - why would you move it back to Seattle? You already have risked your company's IP.

 

[badbadboy]

Companies have to trade integrity of their IP for productivity. There are a lot of things that impact productivity that aren't directly the fault of the employee. Workplace Health & Safety practices for incidence. It's becoming too expensive to test prototypes or do pre-production process analysis. Once you have prototyped and set up the production line in China - why would you move it back to Seattle? You already have risked your company's IP.

The companies I work with do all their own prototyping and testing in their first beta units in North America. Appropriate engineering changes are made along with cost reduction analysis and only then are these projects released to contract manufacturers in Asia. If you want to talk about expensive, making changes on the fly while on the production line in China is expensive. Working with a small batch of say 100 units in your own back yard is the only way from what i have seen. Once you hit the start button with a CEM in Asia there is no time for retuning a product.

Where I have a problem is they are having contract manufacturing done by the same CEM's who are working with Asian based designers making competitive products. There has been a very long history or reverse engineering from Asian CEM's that have come back to hurt Canadian manufacturers.

 

[sdw]

The companies I work with do all their own prototyping and testing in their first beta units in North America. Appropriate engineering changes are made along with cost reduction analysis and only then are these projects released to contract manufacturers in Asia. If you want to talk about expensive, making changes on the fly while on the production line in China is expensive. Working with a small batch of say 100 units in your own back yard is the only way from what i have seen. Once you hit the start button with a CEM in Asia there is no time for retuning a product.

Where I have a problem is they are having contract manufacturing done by the same CEM's who are working with Asian based designers making competitive products. There has been a very long history or reverse engineering from Asian CEM's that have come back to hurt Canadian manufacturers.

Apple had a bit of a problem with that. The Apple store that wasn't owned by Apple and didn't have any product delivered by Apple. I remember hearing about the Chinese car plant that was being built at the same time just down the road from a Mercedes plant that was being built. That's why the Chinese clone products are so good.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

A computer could take over my job, but it would likely not be as effective in the end result...

:clap: What she said!

 

[HankQuinlan]

Computers have taken over some of what SP's used to provide, through internet porn and web cams.

But if you want the human touch, you still have to see us in person.

How long will it be before virtual reality/robot technology catches up? Implant a consciousness like Scarlett Johansson's OS in "Her" into an improved Real Girl doll? What then, hmm?

 

[badbadboy]

Computers have taken over some of what SP's used to provide, through internet porn and web cams.

But if you want the human touch, you still have to see us in person.

Or it can work the other way too.

I rarely watch porn anymore whereas I used to watch it pretty regularly. I have replaced one habit with another.

Mind you the porn was free

 

[deathreborn]

funeral jobs, but the pay is shit.

 

[hornygandalf]

A computer could take over my job, but it would likely not be as effective in the end result...

However, could technology and computers be used to increase reach and distribution, and thus reduce the number of 'suppliers needed'? (and I'm basing it on what the image appears to be about rather than sex work). So, flipped classrooms and the like?

 

[sdw]

The communication aspects of computers was one of the first steps that allowed for outsourcing to developing countries.
We know that once communication became dirt cheap call-centers could be outsourced anywhere.
Computers did not take over the jobs but allowed, through their use foreigners working at lower wages to take the jobs.
Who would have thought that you could outsource your accounting / book-keeping to India.
Computers and the net made it possible.

I think one of the big job losses was secretarial staff. Managers all used to have a secretary to take dictation and type up his/her brilliant thoughts. Now, the very senior managers have executive assistants, but every other manager types his own reports into the computer system. Also, the clerks that made bookkeeping entries are gone. Managers enter the data and a bookkeeper/CFO validates the entries into the general ledger.

A senior manager can instantly draw up pre-defined daily reports that were impossible before 2006 or so. IT could generate reports out of the mainframe before then, but they were expensive and you got them once a month.

Then, there is email. Communication with staff, suppliers and contractors is practically instant these days. The Post Offices around the world have lost the business communications that used to provide the volume they relied on. Without it, there isn't a Post Office anywhere that is not losing money. Only Granny uses the Post Office these days and the Old Age Pension and Taxation Departments have told her that she must accept having her check electronically deposited in her bank account.

 

[Thatotherguy]

A senior manager can instantly draw up pre-defined daily reports that were impossible before 2006 or so. IT could generate reports out of the mainframe before then, but they were expensive and you got them once a month.

Heck, with cubes that you can slice and dice however you want on the fly, pre-defined daily reports are going the way of the dodo (at least, for BI purposes - pre-defined reports will always have a place for operational purposes).

 

[badbadboy]

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn...puters-make-human-workers-obsolete/?hpt=wo_r1

I lost my job of 16 years last year. What is safe for now and ever. Of course being a SP is # 1 to be never taken over
Next is hair stylist. TV writers, book writers to be here awhile and forever.
Janitor jobs like garbage man maybe not so safe if you think what a robot can do on a auto plant.
Safe jobs may be a cpu programmer to get rid of you next.

Safe jobs, if I were to be the guy with the Crystal Ball and advising a younger person as to what skill to get in the next few years:

Bricks and Mortar repair people: Electricians, Plumbers, tradespeople for renovations, roofing company's and anything to do with repair and upkeep of a home or investment property.

New projects upcoming in BC: Federal Government's ship building program for smaller Navy vessels. East Coast got the lion's share out of the $33B but BC got the $8B smaller vessel contract. They will need welding specialists, marine electricians, marine pipe fitters, etc.

The much hated pipeline proposed (sigh) will probably at the end of the day go ahead unless there is so much civil outrage that its canceled. Highly improbable but nonetheless, they will need pipeline specialists for this build through the Rockies to the West Coast.

BC Ferries is to award a new ship building contract. Word on the street it may be let in BC since there will be a lot of Marine Vessel building at the many local yards. This may be on the coat tails of the Defence Dept's Marine Vessels. BC Ferries could of course go back to the German builder for this new set of ferries but IIRC the German's told them its a minimum 5 year wait for new ships from their yards.

 

[sdw]

Safe jobs, if I were to be the guy with the Crystal Ball and advising a younger person as to what skill to get in the next few years:

Bricks and Mortar repair people: Electricians, Plumbers, tradespeople for renovations, roofing company's and anything to do with repair and upkeep of a home or investment property.

New projects upcoming in BC: Federal Government's ship building program for smaller Navy vessels. East Coast got the lion's share out of the $33B but BC got the $8B smaller vessel contract. They will need welding specialists, marine electricians, marine pipe fitters, etc.

The much hated pipeline proposed (sigh) will probably at the end of the day go ahead unless there is so much civil outrage that its canceled. Highly improbable but nonetheless, they will need pipeline specialists for this build through the Rockies to the West Coast.

BC Ferries is to award a new ship building contract. Word on the street it may be let in BC since there will be a lot of Marine Vessel building at the many local yards. This may be on the coat tails of the Defence Dept's Marine Vessels. BC Ferries could of course go back to the German builder for this new set of ferries but IIRC the German's told them its a minimum 5 year wait for new ships from their yards.

Health Care is where most jobs will be created.

I wouldn't count on BC keeping the federal ship building contracts. It's like the F35 program, the military trucks program, the helicopters, ad nauseam - the federal government will fart around and delay those contracts until the incoming government cancels them all and awards them to THEIR friends.

Keystone will be built before Gateway or Kinder Morgan get built - which, of course, - makes Gateway and Kinder Morgan moot.

Glen Clark tried to build in BC, look at what it got him. The unions are quite willing to cut off their nose to spite their face. The unions are part of the reason that the federal contracts are unlikely to be completed in BC.

 

[badbadboy]

Health Care is where most jobs will be created.

I am unsure where you get your information from but that has definitely not been the case. The BC Govt through the various health authorities has actually been cutting jobs. Nurses are being replaced by unskilled health care aids. It has happened on Vancouver Island, notices have gone out in the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority that the Government is moving forward with this new model. Their new model is a handful of RN's and a larger team of Care Aids doing the work on a daily basis.

https://www.bcnu.org/News/News.aspx?page=News%20Releases_January%2029_1,%202014

Only job increases seen so far has been far more suits with clip boards actually using stop watches to time how long a task takes to accomplish.

I wouldn't count on BC keeping the federal ship building contracts. It's like the F35 program, the military trucks program, the helicopters, ad nauseam - the federal government will fart around and delay those contracts until the incoming government cancels them all and awards them to THEIR friends.

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Well, I did say it was "My Crystal Ball" and you are welcome to have your own opinion. From information I have learned is the DND contracts are being let and office space in the Maritimes is now being sought.

As far as the BC Govt and BC Ferries is concerned the contracts are being put out to tender "soon" as the new vessels are required to replace some 40 - 50 year old vessels.

http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/2014/03/10/FerryReport/

 

[sdw]

I am unsure where you get your information from but that has definitely not been the case. The BC Govt through the various health authorities has actually been cutting jobs. Nurses are being replaced by unskilled health care aids. It has happened on Vancouver Island, notices have gone out in the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority that the Government is moving forward with this new model. Their new model is a handful of RN's and a larger team of Care Aids doing the work on a daily basis.

https://www.bcnu.org/News/News.aspx?page=News%20Releases_January%2029_1,%202014

Only job increases seen so far has been far more suits with clip boards actually using stop watches to time how long a task takes to accomplish.



Well, I did say it was "My Crystal Ball" and you are welcome to have your own opinion. From information I have learned is the DND contracts are being let and office space in the Maritimes is now being sought.

As far as the BC Govt and BC Ferries is concerned the contracts are being put out to tender "soon" as the new vessels are required to replace some 40 - 50 year old vessels.

http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/2014/03/10/FerryReport/

I just don't trust any level of government to create jobs unless it directly leads to votes or directly leads to rewarding their friends.

The people represented by the BCNU may be losing jobs, but those jobs are being transferred to people represented by other associations. It's like when the little shuttle buses started being used. The union wanted the drivers of the class 4 buses to get the same pay as the drivers of the class 2 buses. It took a long strike and a raid by another union to come to the drivers of the class 4 shuttles being paid less than the drivers of the class 2 buses.

 

[Man Mountain]

Of course being a SP is # 1 to be never taken over

You never know...

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Although, apparently, it's even more fun with cam girls...

http://www.gizmag.com/realtouch-interactive-remote-sex-teledildonics/27441/