Why would a sp do this?

[Pillowtalk]

Web cam feeds can be faked!
I still call foul play till someone meets her physically in person, if she has been claiming to be available for outcall someone must have seen her.

I know. Don't you think it's odd no one has even suggested they emailed back or set something up by now.

Also, you and dood impress me with your compassion. A very nice change from all the "what about ME" posts on here.

 

[Pillowtalk]

The topic has made me very nervous.
I have not been involved in this hobby very long, but I am curious as to whether this is a common crisis.
For those of you that have a few years of experience, does it happen frequently that someone intentionally discloses personal information just to be spiteful?

Just to be spiteful, pretty rare. Most stories I have seen are more along the lines of urban legend: I know a guy who knows a guy who says it happened sometime once somewhere. See what I mean? And really, if you are on a review board, know that your friends, family and SO have no knowledge of review boards, (or in this case, an escort website) are you sure anyone you know would ever even see it? I wouldn't think so. Other guys who visit that site would, and I would be far more worried about what they plan to do with that information, in this case. If it was common, you would hear about it every day, week or month. Incredibly, when the micros get busted, there does not seem to be any repercussions for their clients list, and I have seen more than once that they must keep the #s, because some reviews start out with how the brobrosan calls the guy up to tell him about a new girl.

Some of the advertisers on this board require a gentlemen to email a recent photo of himself prior to accepting an appointment.

That's just stupid. Don't do it. I haven't heard of anyone doing that here, maybe you should point out exactly who you are referring to, because I would think it would have been mentioned before.

Others, require you to present a driver's license and/or passport upon meeting to insure that your name is accurate.
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I see you are from the US, and you can expect this if you want to see a reputable sp for the first time and you don't want to give references. It is illegal down there, and she is the one going to get arrested, fined, etc, if she gets caught in a sting. You just need to prove you are not LE.

I think someone said it best when they point out that if you have something to lose, then just don't do it. Or do it in a way that you are only visiting discrete and reputable sps. She might have been well reviewed, and provided what she advertised, but Misty was far from discrete. And I am just referring to her pics and videos all over the internet and ads.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Just to be spiteful, pretty rare. Most stories I have seen are more along the lines of urban legend: I know a guy who knows a guy who says it happened sometime once somewhere.

well... i'm not so sure about that. on average i would say there is some sort of more or less public outing about twice a year on Vancouver boards alone - some of them pretty spectacular. the mods usually clean things up after so there isn't much record of it, but they were the cause of some pretty sleepless nights for some of the pooners out there. like i said above, be very careful with your personal information. and like pillowtalk said, 'if you have something to lose, then just don't do it.'

 

[Pillowtalk]

Spot on, to my view. But add to that the play that they must do to keep her. The amount of energy necessary to placate the histrionic?

I bet they feel they deserve the money. Perhaps they do.

Probably used it to buy themselves a house. Packed up and moved, with their names on the lease, no where else for her to go with no rental history, too. I don't know, they could have cut her loose any time, but basically she was working 24/7 and traveling for those higher rates, constantly as far as I could see. And having a temper then taking the day off, which kimh mentioned? Well, why not. All sorts of other people get a day off, and maybe the night before she got no sleep being sent off to who knows where.

Nope, I've got no sympathy for anyone who benefits from the work of others and then wants people to feel like they are hard done by somehow. They made a lot of money with her, it was part of the package they should be the ones ensuring she is in a good place when they are done with her. Set up to go it alone, or with a sizeable bank account, a place to live and her own phone working. If she screws it up after that, then no one can say anything about them. But they all lived together, and you know she made a lot of money. Hard to believe they didn't skim off all or most of that.

 

[not2old]

Any client that comes to see me can testify that I'm very discreet. Athaire, on the other hand, was NEVER a client of mine and I didn't really have any private information on him. The most I ever knew about Athaire was his "real" first name and the fact that he was with Audrey. Other that that, I didn't know anything about him personally.

The situation you're talking about was when I basically explained to people how to Google a username to show that the profile that was in question was linked to his pooning handle and any breach of information was done so by his own neglagence. That isn't a breach of privacy, hun. It's common sense and it isn't a breach of anything in pointing that out..

Nothing was sacred anymore (after some asshole screencapped Brandy's facebook and published it), so I've been given permission to explain the situation to the best of my ability.

I take then from the way that you see it, posting a screen cap in an evasion of privacy, but giving out a step-by-step proceedure to lead people to a place that contains private information is fair game.

 

[Miami]

That's just stupid. Don't do it. I haven't heard of anyone doing that here, maybe you should point out exactly who you are referring to, because I would think it would have been mentioned before.


I see you are from the US, and you can expect this if you want to see a reputable sp for the first time and you don't want to give references. It is illegal down there, and she is the one going to get arrested, fined, etc, if she gets caught in a sting. You just need to prove you are not LE.

I think someone said it best when they point out that if you have something to lose, then just don't do it. Or do it in a way that you are only visiting discrete and reputable sps. She might have been well reviewed, and provided what she advertised, but Misty was far from discrete. And I am just referring to her pics and videos all over the internet and ads.

MissCloe is a Montreal based SP who tours to Vancouver and was a paid advertiser on Perb last year. When I tried to book and appointment she referred me the following statement on her website (http://www.misscloemtl.com/):
A) You will need to send me via email, your full name and a verifiable cellular phone number.
A reference from another Lady comapnion is also highly appreciated!
Once we meet, I will be asking you for*a valid piece of identification with a picture (only to see*your name and picture). If the name you*sent me via email does not correspond with your identification, you will be forfeiting the full amount of the donation and I will immediately leave.*

Miss Maya Blue is a current paid advertiser her on Perb. I tried to arrange a 3 hr rendezvous with her two weeks ago and she referred me to this statement on her website (http://www.msmayablue.com/)
I do require a recent photo to book, for the reason that I am independent and my safety is a priority (its on the rates page - under "how to book")

The only cities in the world that I have requested encounters is Toronto and Montreal. I don't hobby in the US or elsewhere.

 

[FloridaGuy]

Use a hobby phone from 7-11 or wherever that cannot be traced to you. Don't even call your other phone from the hobby phone.
Always give a fake name.
Have a hobby email address, ideally not even linked to your Blackberry or iphone (only really an issue if you have an SO you are cheating on)
Always park your car around the corner or out of sight from the incall location.
Never take your wallet, cell phone or business cards into the incall location. If she is visiting you - hide everything that provides personal information.
Walk away from an SP who asks for ID. Yes she is entitled to her safety but you are entitled to your privacy. Protect yourself first.
Lie about what you do for a living. Lie about whether you are married. Lie about what city you live in. Give her nothing that can allow profiling or tracking.
Be wary of booking through a review board. Your handle is linked to an IP which can be traced to your residence.

All very paranoid, yes, but they are very simple precautions to protect your privacy. 99% of the ladies are trustworthy and want the same encounter that you want, but that 1% can ruin your life in any number of ways. Even if you are single and self-employed and have no reason to fear being outed today, being identified and associated with this industry could have consequences at some point in the future. Stay anonymous.

 

[sunnysideup]

You need to reconsider your perspective

To even compare the two shows me that you do not comprehend the fine line of private and public.

The line between private and public is not a fine one - it's a huge, gaping chasm. They're opposite ends of a very large spectrum. You have attempted to make a distinction where one doesn't exist. Granted, in your case, you didn't shoot the pheasant. But you pointed the hunters to it. Be you the hunter or the hunting dog, the pheasant is just as dead.

For you to accept this point, you must admit having made a mistake. We all make mistakes and it's never easy to admit to it. But by admitting it and learning from it we grow and regain lost trust and respect.

 

[Larissa.t]

Goodness gracious. Please be more kind to this woman, she deserves your help not your anger. Do you think it's so easy to be an SP? Do you think we are all rich and make a million dollars? Do you think all men are good to us and treat us like a princess? We are just women trying to survive in this world. It's hard and lonely for some of us too. Please show some respect for your SP, she is a woman, she has some feelings, she wants someone to kiss and love her. Some women are good with this job, others do not have a choice or they made a bad choice when they were young. You now, we are more than just your cumbag. If you think most of us will give away your information you are stupid. We have to hide all the time. All we want is for you to treat us nicely and we will never contact you. Please be a gentleman it is not that hard.

 

[sunnysideup]

More distinctions without a difference. Whether you give me the number or tell me how to find it – either way I’ve got the number when I wouldn’t have but for your information. Maybe you weren’t the only hunting dog but that doesn’t make it right from the pheasant’s point of view.

The preservation of privacy means, among other things, not disclosing information that people don’t want disclosed and not highlighting information that was disclosed in error or by oversight. Generally, it’s not to do anything that will, or may, aid in the dissemination of information about one who does not want it disclosed. It’s that simple. And this industry relies very heavily on it. Discretion has to remain an absolute in this industry. The concept can’t be compromised with “fine line” justifications.

You are right that it was a vindictive thing to do (you called it “bitchy” – same thing). Now take the last step and admit that it was a breach of privacy. You’ll earn my respect and that of others, I’m sure, if you do.

 

[sunnysideup]

Thank you.

 

[ThisEndUp]

Hm...I have to admit that you have a point. I'll admit that I was wrong, then. I must say, that was very well put.

My dad always used to say to me, "Poohbear (I liked Winnie the Pooh as a kid...it was my nickname), people are bound to misunderstand at least 40% of everything they hear face-to-face, 50% of everything they hear in passing, and 60% of everything they read. The key to communication is in finding the right words to say."

So now will you go back over your past few posts and delete a****** name?

Didn't think so, because deep down you still feel you did nothing wrong

and dollars to donuts, you still have all that intel on your pc

 

[ThisEndUp]

5 months? about 4 hours

What are you talking about? You owe me a dollar or a doughnut, because my old laptop broke and this is a new one, so none of the information is on my computer.

Well, I will edit his name if you think it'll help. I don't really think it'll really help at this point (some 5 months later). Also, the fact that you used his name in your post and that others have already quoted me kind of negates my deleting it, but whatever. If you really want to nitpick...

and in this same thread no less...

Any client that comes to see me can testify that I'm very discreet.a******, on the other hand, was NEVER a client of mine and I didn't really have any private information on him. The most I ever knew about a****** was his "real" first name and the fact that he was with Audrey. Other that that, I didn't know anything about him personally.

Just because people have tried to slander my discression, doesn't make it true. Perhaps, instead of listening to over-embelishments, you could look at the fact that I have never had a bad review and the only account of anyone complaining about my discression was in regards to a******, who didn't exactly have an army of support on his side, if my memory serves me.

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a****** signed up to a public website. Had he chose any username for it other than "a******", then I would have agreed that it was private. However, by using "a******" as his username, he was linking that profile to his pooning hobby by association and therefore ANYONE could do a quick Google of his name and find his profile. I'm sure his intentions were to have that information private, which is why I removed that particular post less than 5 minutes later, but my point is that he had already done the damage to himself and what I did was no more outting him than if I were to Google anyone elses' name. His own negligence caused him his misery by choosing to use the same name he pooned with on his dating profile. You don't use your pooning handle for anything you don't want associated with your hobby. That's just common sense!

Was what I did mean? Yes, which is why I removed that post within the 5 minutes because it would only begot more drama and I'll admit it wasn't very tasteful of me (even if it was still apparently screencapped and floated around by a****** himself anyways). I'll admit that I was a bitch for trying to point it out and ruba****** nose in it. Lord knows he and I weren't exactly on friendly terms at the time. However, many others including myself know that it was not outting at all.

True, I pointed people to the profile, and I have admitted that it was a bitchy thing to do, but you can't out someone with information that is obtained using Google and a public username. Especially not when that information was already being discussed in a public manner like the way a****** profile was being discussed. You just can't! How on Earth would that work? The information was already there by association, was publicly accessable, and was able to be discovered through a simple search using a public piece of information. People already knew that the profile was out there. It was no secret and people were already searching it. I did not post a link, I explained how to search a username with the purpose of showing just how public that information already was.

You want to nitpick definitions/semantics by trying to spin your work,

so be it, in simple english

"did your or did you not mention a****** name in the last 4 hours?"

"and WHY did you even bring his name up for, it was not in anyone's question? Vendatta?

 

[Unpossible]

The line between private and public is not a fine one - it's a huge, gaping chasm.

But if the idiot posts pictures under that name on an unrelated website it's his own fault.

Seriously, if I put fliers up on telephone polls in my city with my username, picture, and phone number and somebody posted it who's to blame?

 

[canuksfan69]

i wanted to say my two cents here, not on misty, the posts, searches, etc..dont know, dont care, to be honest, nun my business. BUT i would like to say, as i have before, Many men on here seem to really hate women, and maybe this is a release to be so crude, thoughtless , small minded and ignorant on here...People are free in canada, to quit any job they wish, to have an opinion, yes guy even women, they can defend themselves, speak there minds and thoughts. Seek help to those who cant understand this, spend your money on it..not your "hobby" ..cheers to those that have the courage to leave a job they hate, to want there privacy respected, and to those who stand up and speak when someone is attacking or being spiteful on here, the men who cant understand that these are people, women and this whole site is dedicated to there PROFESSION,,,if a man doesnt like what he read, dont log on, or find another site, the women on here, as they advertise and such dont have the same luxury...and finally ..yes my entire educational life i have been marked down for run on sentences

 

[Krustee]

I've already admitted that I made a mistake. I wouldn't have deleted the post 5 minutes later if I didn't think I made a mistake.

True, I pointed people to the profile, and I have admitted that it was a bitchy thing to do, but you can't out someone with information that is obtained using Google and a public username. Especially not when that information was already being discussed in a public manner like the way A******'s profile was being discussed.

If ANYONE wants to do the same to me, then they're allowed! I don't care! Go Google up "KimHoney" and post whatever links you end up finding. Anything you find that way was already made publicly associated with me at some point or another by my own discression, so you won't be outting any information that wasn't public to begin with.

That's my way of thinking. I'm sorry if people disagree. I spent a good portion of my time looking up privacy and protection laws for my film career. I know what is considered public and what is considered private. Yes, it was a shitty move on my part, but what I did can not be considered disclosure of private information by any means. I would have agreed with you had I of posted a link, because it is handing it to people, but by describing how to get the results they'd still have to put forth their own effort to find the information.

Kim - seriously, just stop posting!

The more you post the deeper hole you dig for yourself.

The line between private and public is not a fine one - it's a huge, gaping chasm. They're opposite ends of a very large spectrum. You have attempted to make a distinction where one doesn't exist. Granted, in your case, you didn't shoot the pheasant. But you pointed the hunters to it. Be you the hunter or the hunting dog, the pheasant is just as dead.

For you to accept this point, you must admit having made a mistake. We all make mistakes and it's never easy to admit to it. But by admitting it and learning from it we grow and regain lost trust and respect.

More distinctions without a difference. Whether you give me the number or tell me how to find it – either way I’ve got the number when I wouldn’t have but for your information. Maybe you weren’t the only hunting dog but that doesn’t make it right from the pheasant’s point of view.

The preservation of privacy means, among other things, not disclosing information that people don’t want disclosed and not highlighting information that was disclosed in error or by oversight. Generally, it’s not to do anything that will, or may, aid in the dissemination of information about one who does not want it disclosed. It’s that simple. And this industry relies very heavily on it. Discretion has to remain an absolute in this industry. The concept can’t be compromised with “fine line” justifications.

You are right that it was a vindictive thing to do (you called it “bitchy” – same thing). Now take the last step and admit that it was a breach of privacy. You’ll earn my respect and that of others, I’m sure, if you do.

Hm...I have to admit that you have a point. I'll admit that I was wrong, then. I must say, that was very well put.

Well GLORY hallelujah!!

Maybe now you can start to look at other areas you seem to have a difficulty with regarding respecting clients.

i wanted to say my two cents here, not on misty, the posts, searches, etc..dont know, dont care, to be honest, nun my business. BUT i would like to say, as i have before, Many men on here seem to really hate women, and maybe this is a release to be so crude, thoughtless , small minded and ignorant on here...People are free in canada, to quit any job they wish, to have an opinion, yes guy even women, they can defend themselves, speak there minds and thoughts. Seek help to those who cant understand this, spend your money on it..not your "hobby" ..cheers to those that have the courage to leave a job they hate, to want there privacy respected, and to those who stand up and speak when someone is attacking or being spiteful on here, the men who cant understand that these are people, women and this whole site is dedicated to there PROFESSION,,,if a man doesnt like what he read, dont log on, or find another site, the women on here, as they advertise and such dont have the same luxury...and finally ..yes my entire educational life i have been marked down for run on sentences

You should be marked down for poor sentence structure & poor spelling, lack of proper punctuation & nearly incoherent story line.

Other than that I have to disagree with what you had to say cuz this is not a escort ass kissing site it is an escort review board.

If the truth hurts maybe sometimes it's just better to remain ignorant.

 

[Unpossible]

Kim - seriously, just stop posting!

The more you post the deeper hole you dig for yourself.






Well GLORY hallelujah!!



You should be marked down for poor sentence structure & poor spelling, lack of proper punctuation & nearly incoherent story line.

and you should be marked down for showing up short of the proper donation.

Oh, and as far as the info sunny's talking about maybe he can tell me why it wasn't taken down the second ******* was made aware of it?

 

[Krustee]

Krustee, I'm still trying to figure out just what makes you believe anyone gives a shit about what you say? You're a rip-off artist. You short change and scam escorts! Then, not only do you proudly admit to it, but you defend it! And you come over here and feel like you have something intelligent or important to say to me?

I'm a rip-off artist eh Kimmy?

Well let's prove that then.

Like I have said before - you find an escort willing to claim I have "ripped her off" & I will not only pay her 1 hour fee but yours as well!

It is well known who I have seen in session so call all of them & see if you can get them to admit I was rude & a "rip-off" as you & so many others claim.
Get them to tell you how I "scammed" them - OK?

I'm willing to bet not only will you be told no but you will be told to "fuck off" as well.

Better yet let's have a public poll & have all those poor SP's who have been ripped off by me post the details of when & by how much I ripped them off.

Your glass house is so painfully obvious here. What? Do you honestly think that joining in on trying to attack me is going to make you look like anything except a tool and a hypocrite? What a joke!

Well, nobody can do stupid and ignorant quite like you, Krustee, so I'm just going to let you keep that.

Not trying to attack you Kimmy, merely pointing out the obvious.

That's right Kimmy - I'm stupid & you are smart!

You with your 20 something years on this earth are obviously far more knowledgeable than I am with my over 40.
I'm sure you are much more experienced than I will ever be as well.

Notice Kimmy that I do not have to resort to cursing at you to make my point but you seem incapable of restraining yourself.

See what ya can do to find who I have ripped off OK?

Hey - if you can't find someone then just get some gal I have never seen post on here so that you will feel better.

We all know you & those other pillars of our community would never say something that is not true now don't we?

 

[BJhunter]

Let's just get our good cocks sucked!

 

[sunnysideup]

Memo to Krustee

Give credit where credit is due. It took great courage for KimHoney to say what she said last night. I’m sure it wasn’t easy. I admire those who stand by their convictions but I admire even more those who listen and evaluate criticism and, when appropriate, have the integrity to change and grow. We need more of that type of character in people.

Last night a seed germinated. Nurture it if you wish, but please don’t piss all over it.